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Funtatlaguy

(10,875 posts)
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:05 PM Feb 2016

Could Spike Lee save Bernies campaign?

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the black vote will decide this election.
Nationally, Bernie has a small lead amongst whites and a small deficit amongst Latinos but a huge deficit amongst blacks.
It's too late to change that in SCarlona and probably on Super Tuesday.

But, after that, if Bernie is still viable, there is only one question.

How or if Bernie can cut into his huge black vote deficit?

The only really big name African American that I've seen endorse Bernie is Spike Lee.
Maybe Bernie should heavily use him in commercials and rally appearances?

As a Bernie supporter, I think it may not be possible.
Hillary has done a great job securing the black vote.
Looks like they are going to be the difference.
Not really sure what Bernie could have done to change that. We shall see, I guess.

FYI, I am one old white liberal Bernie guy that will fully support Hillary if she is our nominee.

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Could Spike Lee save Bernies campaign? (Original Post) Funtatlaguy Feb 2016 OP
Elle. Oh. Elle. firebrand80 Feb 2016 #1
Umm.... vdogg Feb 2016 #2
all they have to do is pay attention to the truth. jonjon Feb 2016 #3
Thanks for the kind response. Funtatlaguy Feb 2016 #5
Who's "they"?! tia uponit7771 Feb 2016 #13
i think the only endorsement that could help him win the black vote JI7 Feb 2016 #4
That won't happen. Funtatlaguy Feb 2016 #6
let's say "win over" demwing Feb 2016 #36
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2016 #14
What I have been hearing (msm) is that Bernie is winning the millennial black vote - example jillan Feb 2016 #7
Not according to yougov... black millennials strong HRC uponit7771 Feb 2016 #16
LOL - that's the Huffington Post's pollster. It has terrible reviews! jillan Feb 2016 #20
There's one other that confirms it with a 10% variance... black and Hispanic millennials are strong uponit7771 Feb 2016 #23
Spike Lee is a bomb thrower.... Henhouse Feb 2016 #8
Did "Killer Mike"? brooklynite Feb 2016 #9
Honestly, I had never heard of Killer Mike Funtatlaguy Feb 2016 #10
Everyone knows Cornell West too, he called Obama n-word-izzed... that's affecting Sanders campaign uponit7771 Feb 2016 #18
Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Danny Glover, Zoe Kravitz sorechasm Feb 2016 #11
Bernie would 'still be viable' after SC if he didn't get a single vote there. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #12
I said after Super Tuesday, not SCarolina. Funtatlaguy Feb 2016 #15
11 states where the votes are awarded proportionally, and he's ahead in a number of them anyway? Kentonio Feb 2016 #32
No, because he's not important to the community whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #17
Sanders campaign doesn't need 'saving' Matariki Feb 2016 #19
yeah, that "firewall" turned out to be just a speed bump for Bernie. kath Feb 2016 #27
They're just trying out their daily meme/psy-op. Matariki Feb 2016 #28
I don't think a rich 1%er like Spike Lee workinclasszero Feb 2016 #21
Aren't most of Hillary's big celebrity AA endorsers 1%ers? whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #24
Spikes wife backs Hillary! :D workinclasszero Feb 2016 #31
No, Hillary always had the black vote and now she has Mothers of BLM WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #22
Actually this black (urban) man sees the black vote is diividing among age PFunk1 Feb 2016 #25
No one ever talks about a monolithic borg-like 'white vote' Matariki Feb 2016 #29
The Democratic Party doesn't care about the white working class. liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #33
I thought Killer Mike already did that... SidDithers Feb 2016 #26
That was way before his "Uterus Monologues". Right now oasis Feb 2016 #35
Bernie does just fine among Millennial minorities, and with the Millennial vote liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #30
Doubt it. n/t zappaman Feb 2016 #34
Bernie is doing fine demwing Feb 2016 #37
He can go play saxophone on the Arsenio Hall show. coyote Feb 2016 #38
I'm disgusted at hearing about "the Black vote" (singular) as if any group of people that large GreatGazoo Feb 2016 #39
Not if Spike Lee's wife can help it! MoonRiver Feb 2016 #40
Spike Lee's wife. Is that like Bill Clinton's wife? Please, at least use her name. libdem4life Feb 2016 #41
Lee will help him, but what makes you think Bernie's campaign needs "saving?" It's very early... magical thyme Feb 2016 #42
 

jonjon

(68 posts)
3. all they have to do is pay attention to the truth.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:21 PM
Feb 2016

It's a great radio ad BTW...

https://soundcloud.com/bernie_sanders/wake-up

You're right Firebrand Spike's voice is slightly funny!

Funtatlaguy

(10,875 posts)
5. Thanks for the kind response.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:28 PM
Feb 2016

Some think using Spike Lee is stupid?
Do they feel the same about Morgan Freeman?
Geez....I didn't suggest Fat Albert.

Funtatlaguy

(10,875 posts)
6. That won't happen.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:30 PM
Feb 2016

Bernie can't win the black vote.
He just needs to bring it from 80-20 down to 60-40%.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
7. What I have been hearing (msm) is that Bernie is winning the millennial black vote - example
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:33 PM
Feb 2016

Eric Gardner's daughter is a huge Bernie supporter while the mom is a Hillary supporter.

The younger vote is going to Bernie,
the older vote going to Hillary.

And that was before Spike's endorsement - so it's hard to say.

uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
23. There's one other that confirms it with a 10% variance... black and Hispanic millennials are strong
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:02 PM
Feb 2016

... HRC.

Henhouse

(646 posts)
8. Spike Lee is a bomb thrower....
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:33 PM
Feb 2016

Which is perfect if you are leading a revolution. I'm not sure that a Spike Lee endorsement is going to improve Bernie's standing with establishment Democrats and mainstream civil rights leaders.

Funtatlaguy

(10,875 posts)
10. Honestly, I had never heard of Killer Mike
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:40 PM
Feb 2016

But, Everybody knows Spike Lee.
Now, how well he's respected in the black community I wouldn't know.

uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
18. Everyone knows Cornell West too, he called Obama n-word-izzed... that's affecting Sanders campaign
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:59 PM
Feb 2016

... more among black politico than any other endorsement

sorechasm

(631 posts)
11. Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Danny Glover, Zoe Kravitz
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:45 PM
Feb 2016

The list keeps growing against the odds that keep being touted as inevitable.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bernie_Sanders_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016

Revolutions do not operate by mechanical, algebraic statistical prediction. They are by nature, spontaneous. Which means that no one truly knows the outcome until the event is over.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
12. Bernie would 'still be viable' after SC if he didn't get a single vote there.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:56 PM
Feb 2016

It's one freaking state. Hillary will win it by margins similar to the New Hampshire blowout, and that's no surprise to anyone paying attention. And he'll 'still be viable' afterwards.

Look, Bernie has been trending steadily upwards, Hillary bobbling down. She's GOING to win more states here at the beginning, he's going to win more at the end. Who wins depends upon just WHEN his trendlines pass hers.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
19. Sanders campaign doesn't need 'saving'
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:01 PM
Feb 2016

May I remind everyone that 3 states does not make a win for Clinton - especially when she was historically trounced in one state, tied in the second, and barely won in the third that was supposed to be her 'western firewall'.

That said, glad Spike Lee is doing ads for Sanders.

kath

(10,565 posts)
27. yeah, that "firewall" turned out to be just a speed bump for Bernie.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:24 PM
Feb 2016

And much as Camp Weathervane tries to deny it, it's a sign of trouble for them that her big lead there evaporated.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
28. They're just trying out their daily meme/psy-op.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:26 PM
Feb 2016

Today's is "pretend it's already won". Pathetic as all the other crap they've tried.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
21. I don't think a rich 1%er like Spike Lee
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:02 PM
Feb 2016

is gonna make a huge difference, I dunno.

And I will vote for Bernie if he get the nod too.

Thank you for being a democrat sir!

PFunk1

(185 posts)
25. Actually this black (urban) man sees the black vote is diividing among age
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:17 PM
Feb 2016

Namely around 30. Now of course this is generalizing but here's what I've hearing. Those under it support Bernie. Those over it support Hillary. And it seems the Bernie faction is growing.

Take that what you may. But it's making some interesting times in the gathering places.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
29. No one ever talks about a monolithic borg-like 'white vote'
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:30 PM
Feb 2016

just 'the black vote' or 'the latino vote' as if people in those groups were all of one mind. I don't know about you, but find it a bit troubling

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
33. The Democratic Party doesn't care about the white working class.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:48 PM
Feb 2016

They are completely left out of the conversation.

oasis

(49,383 posts)
35. That was way before his "Uterus Monologues". Right now
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:51 PM
Feb 2016

I believe he's been put on a timeout due to his radioactivity.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
30. Bernie does just fine among Millennial minorities, and with the Millennial vote
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:40 PM
Feb 2016

he is tied with Hillary. So, no, I don't see Bernie's campaign in need of saving.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
37. Bernie is doing fine
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:56 PM
Feb 2016

and will continue to do fine

That said, Spike Lee's voice is welcome and appreciated!

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
39. I'm disgusted at hearing about "the Black vote" (singular) as if any group of people that large
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:57 PM
Feb 2016

is composed of people who can't make up their own individual minds and decide what is best for them (and has only one vote).

I think it is condescending, the whole media thing about this or that black person endorsed one or the other and therefore every black person in America is going to listen to them. Not as condescending as claiming them as one's "firewall" but condescending nonetheless.

Firewall (noun) = "a wall or partition designed to inhibit or prevent the spread of fire."

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
41. Spike Lee's wife. Is that like Bill Clinton's wife? Please, at least use her name.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 03:24 PM
Feb 2016

Spike's wife, that is.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
42. Lee will help him, but what makes you think Bernie's campaign needs "saving?" It's very early...
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 03:33 PM
Feb 2016

He was supposed to lose Iowa. He came from behind so fast that within the last 2 weeks, Hillary's camp was desperately lowering expectations, claiming that if she lost by single digits she would have "won" and her team was reduced to video-recorded cheating. They essentially tied.

He won NH by a landslide.

He was supposed to lose Nevada. He came from behind so fast that within the last 2 weeks, Hillary's camp was desperately lowering expectations, trying to claim that Nevada was 80% white. He lost by only 4 points, against videotaped cheating and reports of voter suppression.

Now they are tied in *earned* delegates.

He is winning the popular vote by a landslide.

His national poll numbers continue to rise, while hers continue to sink.

Until a couple weeks ago, Massachusetts heavily favored Hillary. Now their numbers have reversed. He's coming on strong in a lot of states.

There is still a long way to go in this primary.

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