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Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:05 PM

Could Spike Lee save Bernies campaign?

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the black vote will decide this election.
Nationally, Bernie has a small lead amongst whites and a small deficit amongst Latinos but a huge deficit amongst blacks.
It's too late to change that in SCarlona and probably on Super Tuesday.

But, after that, if Bernie is still viable, there is only one question.

How or if Bernie can cut into his huge black vote deficit?

The only really big name African American that I've seen endorse Bernie is Spike Lee.
Maybe Bernie should heavily use him in commercials and rally appearances?

As a Bernie supporter, I think it may not be possible.
Hillary has done a great job securing the black vote.
Looks like they are going to be the difference.
Not really sure what Bernie could have done to change that. We shall see, I guess.

FYI, I am one old white liberal Bernie guy that will fully support Hillary if she is our nominee.

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Reply Could Spike Lee save Bernies campaign? (Original post)
Funtatlaguy Feb 2016 OP
firebrand80 Feb 2016 #1
vdogg Feb 2016 #2
jonjon Feb 2016 #3
Funtatlaguy Feb 2016 #5
uponit7771 Feb 2016 #13
JI7 Feb 2016 #4
Funtatlaguy Feb 2016 #6
demwing Feb 2016 #36
uponit7771 Feb 2016 #14
jillan Feb 2016 #7
uponit7771 Feb 2016 #16
jillan Feb 2016 #20
uponit7771 Feb 2016 #23
Henhouse Feb 2016 #8
brooklynite Feb 2016 #9
Funtatlaguy Feb 2016 #10
uponit7771 Feb 2016 #18
sorechasm Feb 2016 #11
Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #12
Funtatlaguy Feb 2016 #15
Kentonio Feb 2016 #32
whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #17
Matariki Feb 2016 #19
kath Feb 2016 #27
Matariki Feb 2016 #28
workinclasszero Feb 2016 #21
whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #24
workinclasszero Feb 2016 #31
WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #22
PFunk1 Feb 2016 #25
Matariki Feb 2016 #29
liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #33
SidDithers Feb 2016 #26
oasis Feb 2016 #35
liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #30
zappaman Feb 2016 #34
demwing Feb 2016 #37
coyote Feb 2016 #38
GreatGazoo Feb 2016 #39
MoonRiver Feb 2016 #40
libdem4life Feb 2016 #41
magical thyme Feb 2016 #42

Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:09 PM

1. Elle. Oh. Elle.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:21 PM

2. Umm....

Good lord... I uhhh.....I got nothing...

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:21 PM

3. all they have to do is pay attention to the truth.

 

It's a great radio ad BTW...

https://soundcloud.com/bernie_sanders/wake-up

You're right Firebrand Spike's voice is slightly funny!

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Response to jonjon (Reply #3)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:28 PM

5. Thanks for the kind response.

Some think using Spike Lee is stupid?
Do they feel the same about Morgan Freeman?
Geez....I didn't suggest Fat Albert.

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Response to jonjon (Reply #3)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:57 PM

13. Who's "they"?! tia

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:27 PM

4. i think the only endorsement that could help him win the black vote

Is Obama.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #4)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:30 PM

6. That won't happen.

Bernie can't win the black vote.
He just needs to bring it from 80-20 down to 60-40%.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:54 PM

36. let's say "win over"

 

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Response to JI7 (Reply #4)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:57 PM

14. +1

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:33 PM

7. What I have been hearing (msm) is that Bernie is winning the millennial black vote - example

Eric Gardner's daughter is a huge Bernie supporter while the mom is a Hillary supporter.

The younger vote is going to Bernie,
the older vote going to Hillary.

And that was before Spike's endorsement - so it's hard to say.

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Response to jillan (Reply #7)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:58 PM

16. Not according to yougov... black millennials strong HRC

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #16)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:01 PM

20. LOL - that's the Huffington Post's pollster. It has terrible reviews!

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Response to jillan (Reply #20)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:02 PM

23. There's one other that confirms it with a 10% variance... black and Hispanic millennials are strong

... HRC.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:33 PM

8. Spike Lee is a bomb thrower....

Which is perfect if you are leading a revolution. I'm not sure that a Spike Lee endorsement is going to improve Bernie's standing with establishment Democrats and mainstream civil rights leaders.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:35 PM

9. Did "Killer Mike"?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #9)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:40 PM

10. Honestly, I had never heard of Killer Mike

But, Everybody knows Spike Lee.
Now, how well he's respected in the black community I wouldn't know.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #10)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:59 PM

18. Everyone knows Cornell West too, he called Obama n-word-izzed... that's affecting Sanders campaign

... more among black politico than any other endorsement

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:45 PM

11. Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Danny Glover, Zoe Kravitz

The list keeps growing against the odds that keep being touted as inevitable.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bernie_Sanders_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016

Revolutions do not operate by mechanical, algebraic statistical prediction. They are by nature, spontaneous. Which means that no one truly knows the outcome until the event is over.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:56 PM

12. Bernie would 'still be viable' after SC if he didn't get a single vote there.

It's one freaking state. Hillary will win it by margins similar to the New Hampshire blowout, and that's no surprise to anyone paying attention. And he'll 'still be viable' afterwards.

Look, Bernie has been trending steadily upwards, Hillary bobbling down. She's GOING to win more states here at the beginning, he's going to win more at the end. Who wins depends upon just WHEN his trendlines pass hers.

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Response to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #12)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:58 PM

15. I said after Super Tuesday, not SCarolina.

Where there are 11 more states.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #15)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:44 PM

32. 11 states where the votes are awarded proportionally, and he's ahead in a number of them anyway?

 

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:58 PM

17. No, because he's not important to the community

That's what I'm told anyway.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:01 PM

19. Sanders campaign doesn't need 'saving'

May I remind everyone that 3 states does not make a win for Clinton - especially when she was historically trounced in one state, tied in the second, and barely won in the third that was supposed to be her 'western firewall'.

That said, glad Spike Lee is doing ads for Sanders.

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Response to Matariki (Reply #19)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:24 PM

27. yeah, that "firewall" turned out to be just a speed bump for Bernie.

And much as Camp Weathervane tries to deny it, it's a sign of trouble for them that her big lead there evaporated.

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Response to kath (Reply #27)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:26 PM

28. They're just trying out their daily meme/psy-op.

Today's is "pretend it's already won". Pathetic as all the other crap they've tried.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:02 PM

21. I don't think a rich 1%er like Spike Lee

 

is gonna make a huge difference, I dunno.

And I will vote for Bernie if he get the nod too.

Thank you for being a democrat sir!

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #21)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:06 PM

24. Aren't most of Hillary's big celebrity AA endorsers 1%ers?

The rich LOVE her.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #24)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:41 PM

31. Spikes wife backs Hillary! :D

 

Gotta love it!

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:02 PM

22. No, Hillary always had the black vote and now she has Mothers of BLM

 

The black vote was never in play.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:17 PM

25. Actually this black (urban) man sees the black vote is diividing among age

Namely around 30. Now of course this is generalizing but here's what I've hearing. Those under it support Bernie. Those over it support Hillary. And it seems the Bernie faction is growing.

Take that what you may. But it's making some interesting times in the gathering places.

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Response to PFunk1 (Reply #25)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:30 PM

29. No one ever talks about a monolithic borg-like 'white vote'

just 'the black vote' or 'the latino vote' as if people in those groups were all of one mind. I don't know about you, but find it a bit troubling

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Response to Matariki (Reply #29)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:48 PM

33. The Democratic Party doesn't care about the white working class.

They are completely left out of the conversation.

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #26)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:51 PM

35. That was way before his "Uterus Monologues". Right now

I believe he's been put on a timeout due to his radioactivity.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:40 PM

30. Bernie does just fine among Millennial minorities, and with the Millennial vote

he is tied with Hillary. So, no, I don't see Bernie's campaign in need of saving.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:51 PM

34. Doubt it. n/t

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:56 PM

37. Bernie is doing fine

 

and will continue to do fine

That said, Spike Lee's voice is welcome and appreciated!

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:57 PM

38. He can go play saxophone on the Arsenio Hall show.

 

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:57 PM

39. I'm disgusted at hearing about "the Black vote" (singular) as if any group of people that large

is composed of people who can't make up their own individual minds and decide what is best for them (and has only one vote).

I think it is condescending, the whole media thing about this or that black person endorsed one or the other and therefore every black person in America is going to listen to them. Not as condescending as claiming them as one's "firewall" but condescending nonetheless.

Firewall (noun) = "a wall or partition designed to inhibit or prevent the spread of fire."

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 03:01 PM

40. Not if Spike Lee's wife can help it!

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Response to MoonRiver (Reply #40)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 03:24 PM

41. Spike Lee's wife. Is that like Bill Clinton's wife? Please, at least use her name.

 

Spike's wife, that is.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Tue Feb 23, 2016, 03:33 PM

42. Lee will help him, but what makes you think Bernie's campaign needs "saving?" It's very early...

 

He was supposed to lose Iowa. He came from behind so fast that within the last 2 weeks, Hillary's camp was desperately lowering expectations, claiming that if she lost by single digits she would have "won" and her team was reduced to video-recorded cheating. They essentially tied.

He won NH by a landslide.

He was supposed to lose Nevada. He came from behind so fast that within the last 2 weeks, Hillary's camp was desperately lowering expectations, trying to claim that Nevada was 80% white. He lost by only 4 points, against videotaped cheating and reports of voter suppression.

Now they are tied in *earned* delegates.

He is winning the popular vote by a landslide.

His national poll numbers continue to rise, while hers continue to sink.

Until a couple weeks ago, Massachusetts heavily favored Hillary. Now their numbers have reversed. He's coming on strong in a lot of states.

There is still a long way to go in this primary.

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