Hillary Clinton is a better human being than Trump, let alone a better candidate for president

[Yavin4]

No matter what "scandal" you pin on Hillary, it pales in comparison to what Trump has done in his past from his mob dealings, to his BKs, to how he treated the women in his life, to how he's treating the union in his LV casino.

So, if anyone here wants to make the claim that they're both the same, you need to check your facts and you need to clear your head.

[Kittycat]

1. I would say Bernie is better than either.

I don't have to settle, this is the primaries, not the GE. Why are people acting as though it's over? Long way to go.

[kristopher]

9. it isn't even close to being over.

Half of Hillary Clinton’s Speaking Fees Came From Groups Also Lobbying Congress
Philip Elliott

Groups with giant lobbying budgets gave Clinton big speaking fees ahead of 2016 presidential campaign

Almost half of the money from Hillary Clinton’s speaking engagements came from corporations and advocacy groups that were lobbying Congress at the same time.

The Democratic presidential candidate earned $10.2 million in 2014, her first full calendar year after leaving the State Department. Of that, $4.6 million came from groups that also spent on lobbying Congress that year, according to data compiled by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics....

...Asked Tuesday if there were conflicts of interest in speaking to these groups, Clinton was curt with reporters in Cedar Falls, Iowa. “No,” she said.

“Obviously, Bill and I have been blessed and we’re very grateful for the opportunities that we had...

http://time.com/3889577/hillary-clinton-paid-speeches-lobbyists-influence/

Great chart at article

[earthside]

14. One Republican or another.

Hillary Clinton Is Backed by Major Republican Donors

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/02/hillary-clinton-backed-major-republican-donors.html

[Kittycat]

22. Just look in to

Who leads the Third Way, the eye popping candidates associated, their initiatives, flip over to the Clinton Foundation, and then scan some recent revealing articles and emails on what has come out on lobbyists and Clinton's emails. It's all right there, people just don't want to see it (or don't care to).

[CorporatistNation]

46. MSNBC Mika Brysinski, "Print Reporters Have Transcripts... "

[LexVegas]

2. Clinton is much better than Trump, and a better human being than her primary challenger as well. nt

[Cobalt Violet]

10. no, she's worse human being than bernie

[WDIM]

11. Yep backing Bush and voting for a war of aggression in Iraq.

Makes a person a saint....

Supporting bailouts for wall street banksters while average families were living on the streets makes a person so humble and noble.

Approving arms deals to facist brutal totalitarian dictators after those dictators donated to your foundation makes a person truly altruistic.

She is a great person...........

[workinclasszero]

28. I agree

[bkkyosemite]

51. She is NOT a better human being than Bernie!

[Katashi_itto]

3. LOLOL! She is just better at being covert about her misdeeds.

[Yavin4]

5. Bullshit. Flat out bullshit.

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One example, Trump hinted that he could "kill" members of the media. Point to a similar quote from Hillary.

[Katashi_itto]

6. English not your first language?

You said:

" Bullshit. Flat out bullshit.

One example, Trump hinted that he could members of the media. Point to a similar quote from Hillary."

[tk2kewl]

27. Hillary could members of the media too it she wanted too

but i'm sure she won't

[PonyUp]

36. I bet she could members too! n/t

[Hekate]

33. Portable devices need careful proofreading. Every. Single. Line.

I hate that particular bug.

[Katashi_itto]

45. So for the vast swath of Hillary's indiscretions...you choose

One thing that Hillary hasn't done. Gee how comforting....

[jeff47]

4. If you set the bar any lower, it would be melted by the Earth's core. (nt)

[pangaia]

29. I was trying to think of a good analogy.

But yours pretty well takes the cake.

[jeff47]

32. :hattip: (nt)

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

7. My cat is a better human being than Trump.

That's a very low bar. Of course Hillary is a better human being than Trump. Anyhow, he's not a human being; he's a yam. And any yam I can find at my local grocery store is a better yam than Donald Trump. Also, the vegetables you find at the grocery store that are labeled yams are really sweet potatoes.

[pangaia]

30. And trump certainly is no sweet potato.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

8. Not according to DU. It's like they want Trump to win just because Sanders isn't going to.

[CorkySt.Clair]

13. +1

You're not imagining it.

One very prolific poster, who is now on a bit of a vacation, made no bones about the fact that they wanted Hillary to lose in the general.

[CoffeeCat]

23. No, Trump will win if Hillary is our nominee

Facts are facts.

Her negatives are through the roof. Most of America feels that she is untrustworthy.

Republicans will not vote for her. They will line up for miles to vote for Trump and against her. The Republican electorate is activated. She does horrible with Independents. Half of our party can't stand her.

You tell me how that, in any way, is a successful pathway to the Presidency?

Have you looked at Republican turnout vs Dem turnout in these primaries? The only way to win is with a candidate that appeals to the entire Democratic party and Independent. Ordinarily, elections are determined by the Independent vote, but that is assuming that the candidate's party is completely lined up behind the nominee. So...we won't even have THAT, plus the overwhelming majority of Independents will not vote for her.

It's a recipe for disaster. It's what Sanders supporters have been screaming from the rafters for weeks.

We don't want Trump to win. That's part of the reason that we want Bernie. He's electable. She is not.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

25. HRC losing in the GE is a fact? WOW! I didn't know people could portend the future.

[CoffeeCat]

49. Read the facts in my original statement

about Clinton doing poorly with Independents. They don't like her.

It's a fact that you can't construct a pathway to the presidency without the support of Independents.

It's a fact that HRC doesn't have the full support of the Democratic party.

It's also a fact that there are 20 percent more Republicans participating in these primary contests, which signals massive turnout for Trump.

I didn't say I had a crystal ball. I'm urging you to look at the facts.

If she's our nominee then Trump will be living in the White House and his trollop wife will be picking out leopard print for the Lincoln bedroom drapes.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

56. Nothing is a fact. A truism in politics, things change on a daily basis. Not a fact until the voting

actually happens.

[peace13]

41. Hillary can't win.

She has been sliding for months. It's like she's being run out of town and she and her gang have jumped in front to make it look like a parade! It is far from over for Sanders!

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

42. O.K.

[Thinkingabout]

55. If Sanders starts sliding for months it will mean he can't win, is he going to have

the funds to prevent the slide?

[peace13]

57. Money...

We have turned so far away from what a good candidate is it is pathetic. The small donor got Bernie here and they will happily carry him to the finish line. Now if Clinton sabotages the message or the Kochs continue to corrupt the system with dollars, things will become more complicated. So basically it's not if but when because if 2008 is any lesson we know that Hill will tear the house down and scratch the eyes out of kittens if this thing goes south for her.

[CoffeeCat]

12. Yes, and Charles Manson is worse than Hillary too.

Am I supposed to find some kind of comfort in knowing that at least our candidate isn't as bad as Trump? Is that the best we can do?

So, are choices are Corrupt and More Corrupt?

God, this is so depressing.

[SheenaR]

17. "We're not the Worst!" 2016 n/t

[CoffeeCat]

20. "We're Influenza but they're Ebola!"

I feel so much better now. Not.

I don't want either. Both are bad!

[BillZBubb]

44. That's been the Democratic platform since the DLC/third way crowd took over.

[SheenaR]

15. I don't know Hillary Clinton. I don't know Donald Trump

I know they have both helped and hurt a great number of people.

I don't see how we can know who the better human being is unless you have a relationship with both.

Both have poor net favorability. Who knows who the better human being is? If you ask Americans to vote for who you trust more out of those two, we are in trouble. That to me speaks to who a human being is.

Better candidate, different story.

[Armstead]

16. I don't think that's a point of contention here...

But the perceptions of them in the larger public mind is an issue

[TheLogicalSong]

18. They're not both the same.

One is worth a couple hundred million and the other is worth a billion.

[Waiting For Everyman]

19. Since she willingly socializes with him, and Kissinger,

her lack of distaste for them tells me that SHE accepts them, therefore she is no better.

Her own choices show that you're wrong. And it's not work or official socializing, it's off-clock personal time. This is not news during this election, I knew this quite a while ago.

Hillary went to Trump's wedding, and Trumps's daughter and Chelsea are besties. Their own words.

[Orsino]

21. Clinton has been coopted by other people's money.

Trump was coopted by his own.

Trump's freer to do good if he wants, but he doesn't really want to. I'll still bet on Clinton.

[MaggieD]

24. She will beat him easily

Despite the FUD being thrown around.

[Politicalboi]

26. What is this morning wake and puke

She makes me want to

[Vinca]

31. Any Democrat is better than Trump, but that's not what will win or lose the race.

Trump is probably the biggest bully in political history and for some reason the sheeple are eating it up. He'll go after Hillary as a criminal and Bernie as a Commie. There's an enthusiasm gap this year and it's not in our favor, so I'm not terribly optimistic a Democrat will win in November.

[Skwmom]

47. Simple. Trump is beating up the bought and paid for politicians who are responsible for this mess.

I don't support Trump but I can see the allure.

[PufPuf23]

34. I agree with the statement that HRC is easily a better candidate for POTUS than Trump.

However, I want neither to be POTUS.

HRC was my #9 Democratic candidate in 2008.

[farleftlib]

35. Is it loyalty oath time already?

How many are we up to now? I lost count.

[randome]

37. Unless Bernie Sanders is the reincarnation of Jesus Christ...

...we are always voting for the lesser of two evils.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

[LondonReign2]

38. Hillary: Slightly Less Worse Than Trump

Your campaign slogan is exhilarating and inspiring.

[99th_Monkey]

39. Can you set the bar any lower? Geesh. n/t

[peace13]

40. I wouldn't call Hillary a human being...

....more of a corporation, trust or conglomerate. Her opinion changes like a weather vane in a thunderstorm. I'm not angry about it. I just don't want that for a President. She could be the finest Foundation ever assembled....I want a person for president.

[Nonhlanhla]

48. What a revolting statement. nt.

[peace13]

58. It is but it has a lot of truth to it!

Sniper fire runs....endless wars and snickering while witnessing political assassinations are just a few of her callous actions. Some people remember and care about the truth.

[BillZBubb]

43. Last I checked, trump never voted to allow the killing of tens of thousands of innocent people.

Or work for tougher incarceration laws. Or an onerous bankruptcy bill (he'd probably be on the right side of that one).

Facts can be inconvenient.

[Fumesucker]

50. Yeah, Trump is definitely a jerk but he hasn't done those things

[bkkyosemite]

52. It wasn't just Trump she was comparing HRC to it was Bernie who she insulted.

[tularetom]

53. She has put herself in a real bind

She can't claim to be offering something "new" to the electorate, when her entire sales pitch up to now is her vast experience. Whether you think there's a problem now, a lot of people think there is and they cannot see her as a solution when she is so tied to the problem.

A lot of people are sicker of the status quo than they are afraid of Trump. And they're already sick of all the Clinton white trash drama.

[coyote]

54. What is Clinton's campaign slogan now?

Vote for me because I suck less.

[Arazi]

59. Agreed 100% eom