What happened to the day when financial vultures and predators were condemned on DU?

[libtodeath]

Peoples lives were ruined and destroyed,entire European countries were pushed to bankruptcy and austerity by Sachs yet now it is just fine to cozy up to them?

Heartbreaking to see.

[VulgarPoet]

1. Apparently half of DU "evolved" in the time between the Eurozone disasters and now. nt

[libtodeath]

10. I see FDR and the New Deal attacked on here too.

[roguevalley]

40. FDR was a god in our house

[roguevalley]

27. I lost $56,000.00 in my retirement to these fuckers and the day will never come when

I forgive them or their enablers. That may not be much to them or anyone else but that changed my life forever. FUCK these slime balls.

[Jefferson23]

30. I am so sorry that happened to you. :(

[roguevalley]

39. take care with your retirement, Jefferson23. I am worried for every person working to have a nice

few years at the end. Thank you for your kindness.

[japple]

37. Happened to me, too. I hope there will be social programs to take care of me if

this happens to my retirement savings again. I can't take another hit like that.

[angrychair]

53. Right there with you

Screwed and screwed again. Fear not, they are all still millionaires.

[libtodeath]

55. Excactly and now people just shrug.

[noretreatnosurrender]

56. You Beat Me To It

I was going to post they "evolved".

[Katashi_itto]

2. Well then they triangulated and decided Hillary was being

Pragmatic.

[arcane1]

3. It's only a Bad Thing when there's a republican president.

Which proves what I've long suspected: much of that alleged "Democratic" support has absolutely nothing to do with actual policy.

They weren't on our side then, and they aren't on our side now. They just pretend to be.

[libtodeath]

4. I guess we just need to learn our places.

[arcane1]

5. I'm sure we'll be brought to heel if they win the nomination n/t

[zeemike]

31. Yep that is how it is.

And that is why party politics sucks...it is party above people.

[Ghost Dog]

62. All political parties should be outlawed

as actual or potential organised crime. Political candidates should all stand for election as no more but no less than putative representatives of their constituencies. Once in Congress, Parliament, Senate, wherever, then ad hoc groups can be formed, unformed and reformed according to rhe issues under debate. A candidate who does not represent real people, voters, but rather represents parties or other money and power interests should have no place in politics.

But that's a utopia of which I merely dream.

[zeemike]

75. Me dream it too.

But humanity has a long way to go before we can get there.

[hifiguy]

52. Many, as Jerry Seinfeld once put it in the context of sports,

only root for the laundry. Policy means nothing.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

6. The friend of my friend is my friend....especially if my friend's friend buys my friend.

[Peace Patriot]

7. "Our leaders confuse the Gravy Train with the Freedom Train."

--Cornell West

[whatchamacallit]

17. Yeah, that line was a humdinger

cuz it's true.

[Hydra]

76. The gravy train means freedom for them

Why worry about the people you are supposed to represent? Who are they, anyway?



just in case it's needed ---->

[datguy_6]

8. Apparently right after Hillary Clinton announced her candidacy...

It would appear that some value style over substance...

[Maedhros]

33. The same way blanket surveillance, drone murder, and denial of habeus corpus

became just peachy-keen after Obama took office.

[datguy_6]

42. But don't criticize Obama, otherwise you'll be labeled a racist

[hifiguy]

54. AND a hater

AND a right-wing tool
AND a zillion other things.

My sole fealty lies to facts. So does Bernie's.

[JI7]

57. Sanders supports the drone war and hasn't made much issue over surveillance

[beedle]

83. Valid criticisms, but

Sanders is also less likely to put the country into situations where there is a need to use drones and surveillance.

I'm for use of deadly force in situations where deadly force is necessary ... But I'm more in favor of policies that lessen the situations where deadly force is likely to be necessary.

That's the difference between Sanders and Clinton. Clinton is far more likely to get into situations where drones and surveillance are easier to justify. And that's not a good thing (although the popular spin in America is that the more you love war the "stronger" and more "patriotic" you are?!)

[Lucinda]

9. I have never been critical of ALL of our financial institutions.

A healthy financial industry is pretty important to the country.

Regulate what is needed to protect the public from risk and improper business transactions, enforce what is already been done so far in that regard, and then move on to the next problem that needs attending to.

Doesn't seem too complicated to me.

I won't be able to respond, am leaving for the day.

[libtodeath]

13. I do think it is fair though to wonder if Hillary will do that given her past with them.

[Lucinda]

19. Most of her past with Wall street and financial institutions was as the Senator of New York.

And most of her donations from them in the past, came from individual donors.

She has often said she feels that some of their long term loyalty to her, comes from the work she and Senator Schumer did for the industry right after 911. Morgan Stanley had 15 floors of offices in Tower Two. And both buildings had lots of different companies in the financial industries. People like to make her ties about money, but it truly goes deeper. And she doesn't talk about it because it would be something people would accuse her of exploiting. So she ends up stuck with a reputation of corruption that she doesn't really deserve.

[sulphurdunn]

29. The old Hillary vs the new Hillary

is self-serving fiction. There is only the old Hillary, and that Hillary is a neocon.

[JEB]

84. Neocon Kagan Endorses Hillary Clinton

Exclusive: Hillary Clinton’s cozy ties to Washington’s powerful neocons have paid off with the endorsement of Robert Kagan, one of the most influential neocons. But it also should raise questions among Democrats about what kind of foreign policy a President Hillary Clinton would pursue, writes Robert Parry.

https://consortiumnews.com/2016/02/25/neocon-kagan-endorses-hillary-clinton/

[virtualobserver]

32. They started paying her cash directly after her stint as SOS

Now they fund her campaign and her SuperPACS

[Jefferson23]

41. Amazing what is overlooked, isn't it.

Why do they think she keeps saying Bernie's a one issue guy? Aka lets not
talk about WS anymore, please.

[libtodeath]

61. That really isnt true though.

[hifiguy]

60. When they tell her to jump,

she will only ask "how high?"

[tk2kewl]

11. I actually saw a Hillary supporter applauding the Hillary WalMart donation...

counting on continued donations from future Walton generations

poster must be part of the 0.1%

[libtodeath]

14. I saw that too and thought WTF?

[Jefferson23]

36. People can rationalize anything. n/t

[hifiguy]

58. You have GOT to be kidding me.

They are the ones who should be voting for Der Trumpenfuhrer.

[SwampG8r]

82. They likely will

After what has been posted by some i have no illusions tbat they will.support. Bernie should he win nomination. As with all things clinton the loyalty pledges are a sign of what they intend projected onto others
A.hallmark of clintonism is to accuse your opponents of what you are doing.
Another is to stall any and all inquiries and then claim the subject is " old news" and demand we "move on" without any consequences.

[Lizzie Poppet]

12. That was before they designated their chosen candidate.

Now us peasants have to be "brought to heel."

[seaotter]

15. It's her turn!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Attorney in Texas]

16. We cut a deal with the vultures in exchange for millions in speaking fees. Didn't you get your check

[BernieforPres2016]

18. The same thing that happened to the alleged true conservatives on the Republican side

Who are now supporting Donald Trump.

[kgnu_fan]

20. I know...,it is a different landscape now after a few years of break.....

[elana i am]

21. it's not the same place it was 8 years ago

after 2008 i suffered the same fate as a lot of people in this country. i was unemployed for 2 years, and discussing politics on a message board became something that really seemed frivolous and useless, and detrimental to my mental health, so i avoided it like the plague for a few years.

my interest was piqued again by bernie sanders entering the race, so i came back and found that things were not as i left them. when i used to post here back in the day, bernie sanders and paul wellstone were universally revered and admired. i had the two of them and keith olbermann on rotation as my avatar. being progressive was kinda like standard operating procedure.

it's not like that anymore.

[silvershadow]

22. DU is a haven for the enablers (Third Way). nt

[Hissyspit]

79. It used to be completely opposite. DLCers were laughed off the site.

[Enthusiast]

23. DU has had a change of heart.

[hifiguy]

63. It (de)volved.

Get the terminology straight, dammit!

[jtuck004]

24. That was in the BC era. Before Clinton. (Bill) n/t

[PonyUp]

28. ...

[Rafale]

25. But

Aren't we supposed to support a system based on total greed, i.e., capitalism? I mean socialism and communism failed. Capitalism is all we have left. We gotta support something blindly. Banks help people build lives. They perform a public good. I love my mortgage and my Ikea furniture really defines who I am as a person.

The system is not corrupt and Congressmen are not influenced by public donations. They never have been and never will. I dare anyone to prove it because well it's never been proven before, right? The system works and super PACs are a good part of free speech.

Ooo, there's a crowd forming down the street. Gotta go join them. Could be important. Bye!

<sarcasm alert>

[azmom]

26. It's all about keeping the Republicans out of office.

They can't or are not willing to look beyond that.

[Maedhros]

44. They can't see that we are being played by Democratic leaders

in the same way the Republican rank-and-file are being played by THEIR leaders.

Neither leadership has any vision for the future or any solutions to offer. They just point at the other side and hyperventilate over how evil and destructive they are. And the good little apparatchiks on either side just eat it up.

[hifiguy]

51. This times a brazilian.

The DNC's game is all about keeping the transfer of that scrumptious, delicious corporate cash going into DINO pockets.

If HRH - or ANY repig - is somehow elected it would mark the tenth straight presidential term of Raygunomics. And that's all they want. To keep on milking the bigget theft in the history of the world.

[Maedhros]

67. And WE'RE the assholes for suggesting we stop enabling these criminals. [n/t]

[hifiguy]

68. Yup.

We are fucking doomed.

[libtodeath]

59. I want that too,just not by putting in a person that goes against much of what I believe.

[Jefferson23]

34. It's been evident for awhile, and it is not good...not good at all.

Keeping your head in the sand to even imagine they give that kind
of money and it hasn't paid off for them is beyond the pale of reasoning
and logic.

[olddots]

35. Dumbth never sleeps

Greed is born in ignorance .

[Jackilope]

38. Thing is, it can and will happen again. Nothing is fixed.

I sure as Hell do not expect the GOP or Golden Handcuffs Hillary to fix that.

We went through pure Hell in our family during the economic downturn. Nearing retirement, I don't want to go through Hell again so some can have their first woman President -- despite the fact she will lose to whoever the GOP candidate if nominated.

Bernie will at least fight for US. No other candidate will.

[Loki]

45. Why not include all of them.

Countrywide, Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers, AIG, GE, Bank of America, Chase, CitiGroup, Morgan Stanley, Merrill Lynch, Goldman Sachs, Fanny and Freddie Mae and the the list goes on and on and on. Why just pick on one.

[shenmue]

47. Because Hillary owns GS and GS owns everything

"Paranoid" is a great album, but a terrible way to be.

[Loki]

70. yea, yea, yea

Boy talk about a one hit wonder, that's all you have.

[Mufaddal]

87. Yeah, you're right

Why not include all of them?

Goldman Sachs $821,031
Lehman Brothers $362,853
Morgan Stanley $754,538
Citigroup Inc $883,547

So there's a few of her career donation figures. That's setting aside employee contributions and paid speeches (which also included Bank of Ameria).

Merrill Lynch/Bank of America has also given the Clinton campaign $52,000 this election cycle, more than twice what they gave Jeb Bush. As of July last year, BOA employees have given her $290,000 so far for this cycle.

[onecaliberal]

46. They all started supporting Hillary so now they're good to go.

[jalan48]

48. It's called, "Going Yuppie".

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[hifiguy]

49. When they purchased/adopted/whatever HRH,

the banksters instantly turned in to duckies and bunnies.

[Ernest T]

50. I'm not looking for a leader

I'm looking for a candidate that is a follower. A follower of the will of the people. There are no "great" men or women, there are people that listen to you and me and govern for you and me. It is up to us to hold our elected officials accountable for their actions. Bernie Sanders is my choice, but if it's Clinton or God forbid a crazy republican, it is still OUR responsibility to push them where we want our country to go. Go Bernie! He's listens.

[treestar]

64. you're overgeneralizing

wanting us to accept the term "financial vultures and predators" for the entire banking industry.

[libtodeath]

65. Did she get paid to talk to a bank or the financial group that helped bankrupt Greece?

[hifiguy]

69. The biggest banks - not your local bankers -

are the largest ongoing criminal enterprise the world has ever seen.

[libtodeath]

71. And know where to get the most bang for their stolen bucks.

[djean111]

66. Now, they get presidential cuff-links and whip votes for Obama.

Brave stinking new world.

[Uncle Joe]

72. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, libtodeath.

[liberal_at_heart]

73. K&R

[cui bono]

74. "Superpredators" are condemned here now.

.

[BostonBob]

77. IOKIYAHRC

Being a crony capitalist with a neocon foreign policy is bad if you're Bush or Cheney but IOKIYAHRC

[AtomicKitten]

78. exactly right

welcome to DU

[Doctor_J]

80. It's easy to identify the authoritarians these days

They want Hillary to be president, and will go along with literally anything she says. Even if it's the exact opposite of what she said last week. Even if it's in complete agreement with the republicans.

[libtodeath]

81. I am just more and more astounded at what is accepted as long as it is "our" person doing it.

Not in policy either but ethics.

[NCTraveler]

85. They are condemned on du every day by myself...

And an overwhelming majority of the posters here.

[Mufaddal]

86. Answer: A Clinton ran for office again

Although I'm guessing your question was at least partly rhetorical.

Hey, if you think this is the last time we'll be seeing the rightward jerking motion full of ugly corporate apologetics, then just wait until Chelsea runs.

[hifiguy]

88. Mother of Dog save us from that

ghastly possibility. Let her stay in her tower gazing down on us peasants.

[Dem2]

89. Logical Fallacy

So many fallacies to choose from in the O/P, pick the one that appeals best to the reader.