Wish Tulsi Gabbard was running for president

[mgcgulfcoast]

A woman of integrity who knows the DNC is corrupt. She is 100 times a better person than Hillary Clinton.

[JaneyVee]

1. Can't stand Tulsi.

[JonLeibowitz]

3. What an intelligent post filled with thoughtful analysis. Great thinkers everywhere thank you!!!!!!

[JaneyVee]

4. Did you read the op?

Not exactly Plato.

[virtualobserver]

33. she tells the truth...and the sniper fire that she faced wasn't bullshit invented for political gain

[JaneyVee]

36. She voted with the GOP against Syrian refugees.

She trashed Obama for not calling it "Islamic terrorism" and slammed him for not ramping up the war.

[virtualobserver]

39. she criticized him for the decision to arm Al Qaeda rather than bomb them....

and she voted for additional background checks for refugees.

[Barack_America]

2. You might want to check her age.

She has certainly caught my interest though. I am fascinated by what she did today.

[msongs]

6. closet republican quits the DNC. what's so difficult to understand? nt

[Barack_America]

10. Public breakup with the DNC. Not difficult to understand at all.

The first official fracture within party leadership. Fascinating.

[NanceGreggs]

34. OMG!

THIS is the "first official fracture within the party leadership"?

I'm sorry, but that made me

[virtualobserver]

31. quit misrepresenting someone who served her country with courage

[Hillary4Prez2016]

5. Why can't you just post support for her

without having to bash Hillary? Was that really called for?

[JonLeibowitz]

13. Hillary Clinton's vote for the Iraq war made it called for.

That vote is part of why Tulsi has a record of service in war. I am sure she would prefer her friends not getting blown to pieces in war.

[Hillary4Prez2016]

14. I'm just gonna go with

no comment here if you think that's makes it right to call Hillary a bad person

[JonLeibowitz]

16. If she is a bad person, why not call her out for it? I have no problem with posting truths.

[Hillary4Prez2016]

17. She's not a bad person

Far from it. She's not perfect but to call her a bad person is a huge insult to her and the many people she has helped.

[JonLeibowitz]

18. It may be an insult to her, but it is an opinion that many Democrats share.

It is an opinion though, so if you do not like it, you are free to disagree.

I won't let that disagreement dictate what I post, and I would encourage the OP not to either. It's kind of what makes a message board a message board.

[Hillary4Prez2016]

19. but the OP could have

easily pointed out that they liked Tulsi Gabbard, without having to mention the part about Hillary. That was my point

[TM99]

27. Hillary Clinton has a history of lying.

That's beyond 'not perfect'.

[litlbilly]

15. It was because she it.

[LexVegas]

7. No she isn't. She would be getting beat worse than Sanders. nt

[treestar]

8. FFS

why is it when anyone appears to please us, the first thought is that they should run for President?

[Metric System]

9. She has used rhetoric like "homosexual extremists" and "radical Islam." She voted for the GOP

anti Syrian refugees bill.

[Aerows]

22. She has used rhetoric like "homosexual extremists"

Citation, please.

[tammywammy]

24. Here

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2012/1/20/1056467/-

When HONOLULU asked Gabbard in an e-mail to clarify his former relationship with Butler's Krishna group, Gabbard's daughter, state Rep. Tulsi Gabbard Tamayo, sent us an angry e-mail in response. "I smell a skunk," Tamayo wrote. "It's clear to me that you're acting as a conduit for The Honolulu Weekly and other homosexual extremist supporters of Ed Case."

[Aerows]

26. Okay, damn

That is harsh.

Not on the Tusli train, it wrecked at the "homosexual extremist" track.

Thank you, by the way, tammywammy!

[beam me up scottie]

28. I think that happened when she was younger.

He father is a terrible homophobe.

She seems to have evolved quite a bit.

[Aerows]

30. I'll respond in a second

but do you row, too?

It's a kickass exercise!. Sorry I got side tracked by your avatar!

[beam me up scottie]

32. No, never rowed but I heard it's excellent exercise.

[virtualobserver]

41. she grew up with a homophobic father, deployment opened her eyes.

I believed a lot of shit when I was young based on the cult like church that I was in.

That quote was from when she was 22.

[beam me up scottie]

42. Thanks, I thought so.

[SidDithers]

29. And, in testimony opposing civil unions legislation...

"To try to act as if there is a difference between 'civil unions' and same-sex marriage is dishonest, cowardly and extremely disrespectful to the people of Hawaii who have already made overwhelmingly clear our position on this issue... As Democrats we should be representing the views of the people, not a small number of homosexual extremists."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/1/20/1056467/-
http://www.civilbeat.com/2012/01/14558-tulsi-gabbards-leftward-journey/

Sid

[virtualobserver]

38. This was when she was 22.....she was raised in an environment with that belief

In recent years, Tulsi has undergone what she describes as a “gradual metamorphosis” on social issues. She says her transformation was spurred by spending time in countries governed by oppressive regimes during deployments to the Middle East as a member of the Hawaii Army National Guard.

“Some of these experiences living and working in oppressive countries, not only witnessing firsthand but actually experiencing myself what happens when a government basically attempts to act as a moral arbiter,” Tulsi said. “It really caused me to take a look at myself and the way we’re doing things here at home, locally, and nationally.”

Today, she says she is pro-choice and would fight to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act.

Tulsi said that her departure from the “very conservative value set” with which she was raised has meant that recent conversations with her parents about social issues haven’t always been “easy.” But she also said she has discussed her views “in detail” with her mother and father, who couldn’t be reached for comment before publication of this article.

“While my parents and I have a very close relationship, and we love each other and respect each other very much, we don’t agree on everything,” she said. “They respect my position and they understand where I am coming from. Most of all, they support me.”

[beam me up scottie]

25. Like your candidate she opposed marriage equality but evolved, she's a supporter of lgbt rights:

LGBT Issues

During her first Congressional term, she cosponsored HR 1755: Employment Non-Discrimination Act of 2013, prohibiting employment discrimination on the basis of actual or perceived sexual orientation or gender identity. In addition, she co-sponsored two bills related to sexual orientation in the military. HR 2839: Restore Honor to Service Members Act gave military discharge review boards the discretion to retroactively grant honorable discharges to former members of the Armed Forces who were discharged because of their sexual orientation. HR 683 Military Spouses Equal Treatment Act provides the same benefits to same-sex military spouses as it does to different-sex spouses.

In her second term, she co-sponsored HR 3185 The Equality Act, which amends the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to include sex, sexual orientation, and gender identity among groups protected from discrimination in public places. She was also an original co-sponsor for HR 197 Respect for Marriage Act, which would repeal the Defense of Marriage Act.

Regarding the Supreme Court decision on marriage equality, she said:

“I applaud the Supreme Court's ruling today. Some countries in the world are theocracies. Fortunately, the United States of America is not one of them. Therefore, as long as the government is involved in marriage, it must do so with fairness—treating all Americans equally. Today’s ruling by the Supreme Court is an important victory to this end.” [78]

Same-sex marriage

Gabbard is opposed to the Defense of Marriage Act and to a proposed state constitutional amendment that would define marriage as between a woman and a man.[79] She had opposed same-sex marriage at one time[21] but after her tour of duty in the Middle East supported repeal of the DOMA and became a co-sponsor the Respect for Marriage Act after her election to Congress,[80] as she had promised to do during her campaign.[81] She also asked Hawaii state legislators "to pass legislation that will ensure fair and equal treatment for all of Hawaii's citizens".[80]

She publicly supports reproductive choice and LGBT populations, saying that the government should not be the "moral arbiter" in people's lives.[21] She credits her tours of duty in the Middle East with triggering her change in views.[82]

It brought me to a deeper understanding of the meaning of freedom in our country.... We cannot afford to walk down that dangerous path of government overstepping its boundaries into the most personal parts of our lives.[30]
Her father, Mike Gabbard, is a staunch anti-gay marriage Democrat (previously Republican) who is currently the State Senator for Hawaii's 19th District. The familial connection, and her previous stance,[21] initially caused voters to doubt the sincerity of her new support for LGBT causes.[82]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsi_Gabbard

[Jitter65]

47. She even opposed "civil unions."

I believe Hillary at least supported civil unions in the past.

Anyone can be forgiven anything EXCEPT Hillary...that's how haters roll.

[Kip Humphrey]

52. akin to "super predators", eh?

[mahina]

11. I don't know if she's better than Hillary or not but I promise you,

You do not want her running for President.

Don't look too closely.

And I'm as happy as anybody that she endorsed Bernie.

[PoiBoy]

43. +1,000...

[oasis]

12. She'd better look out for a primary challenge to her congressional seat.

[Aerows]

21. Do you think it would be good for the party

to have a primary challenge to her?

[oasis]

23. Depends on who's doing the challenging.

[mahina]

45. Hey Oasis!

[oasis]

48. Hi mahina!

Howzit?

[mahina]

50. Pretty good. Voggy yesterday and today.

Had a nice relaxing weekend, looking forward to the work week, ii'dat so I'm lucky.

Hope all is well w you and your ohana.

2004 feels like a long time ago!

[oasis]

53. Yup a long time since 2004.

I hope you and yours are doing well and are in good health.

We've moved half a dozen times since those days with Opihimoimoi at the fishpond. I miss my friends in Hawaii very much.

[mahina]

44. Never happen.

[Aerows]

20. That lady has a good future in front of her.

She's smart, she's able to tackle issues at a moment's notice, and she is not afraid to rock the boat.

I really like her

[mgcgulfcoast]

40. she is great.

[MaggieD]

35. You've gotta be kidding me

Clearly you don't know jack about her. But, hey she's hates Hillary, so she's cool.

[Jitter65]

46. Folks really climb on the "hate Hillary bandwagon without doing any homework"

Wonder why progressives embrace her?

"She opposed LGBT rights, including same-sex marriage and civil unions. When voting against legalizing civil unions, she stated: "To try to act as if there is a difference between 'civil unions' and same-sex marriage is dishonest, cowardly and extremely disrespectful to the people of Hawaii who have already made overwhelmingly clear our position on this issue.... As Democrats we should be representing the views of the people, not a small number of homosexual extremists." In August 2004, she defended her then-Republican father's anti-LGBT work, and called supporters of U.S. Congressman Ed Case "homosexual extremists".

But I guess all that is ok since she is a Bernie supporter. Wonder how he squares this?

[nadinbrzezinski]

37. hmm fascinating

so now we have open warfare within both parties...

Damn I can read these things. Should be fun, in a Chinese curse kind of a way.

[Blue_Tires]

49. You know she's a shameless Putin apologist, right?

[virtualobserver]

54. more Hillspin

[Blue_Tires]

55. Perhaps you should check out Gabbard's twitter feed

and her politics before you make an even bigger clown of yourself...

[virtualobserver]

56. I have, and your viewpoint is spin.

She states facts. Putin is bombing Al Qaeda and similar groups, and we have been arming them.

That does not make her a Putin apologist. It is just reality. She disagrees with the policy.

If you can't discuss this without name calling, your argument must be very weak.

[still_one]

51. You don't really know much about her do you. It would be more prudent to push Elizabeth Warren than

this person:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/1/20/1056467/-