Hell No, You May Not Use My Song!

[Unknown Beatle]

4 Times 2016 Presidential Hopefuls Were Ordered by Musicians to Cease and Desist
Bikini Kill is the latest band to demand candidates stop turning its songs into propaganda.

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1. Hillary Clinton, Rebel Girl? Punk rock legend Tobi Vail, founding member of Bikini Kill, sent a copyright infringement complaint to YouTube over use of the Song "Rebel Girl" in a pro-Clinton advertisement made by two of the former Secretary of State’s supporters—the California-based couple Eric Wing and Stacey Sampo. In the video, footage of Clinton from the '90s to the present is overlaid with the song whose lyrics blare: “When she walks, the revolution's coming."

The advertisement had already raised eyebrows. After Clinton campaign head John Podesta tweeted the video, one Daily Kos blogger argued that a rebel girl "does not serve on Walmart’s board of directors and stay silent as it viciously attacks unions… A 'rebel girl' does not submit to the military-industrial complex and cast votes for unnecessary wars.”

Vail, whose social media account indicates she is a strong Bernie Sanders supporter, told the publication Death and Taxes that she sent the complaint because “we don’t authorize use of our songs in advertisements.” She explained, “Bikini Kill is a collective, we collectively own our entire catalog including songwriting, so in order for a song to be used they need to have the permission of the whole band.”

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[Atman]

1. Yay to ANY artist who stands up to the right to own their own art.

As an artist, I'll be happy to whore myself out for your pleasure. But, as with any whore, I will absolutely not do it for free.

[Electric Monk]

2. I love how they're (see above) for copyright laws that'll lock up a poor student for sharing music

for their own private use, but have no qualms themselves when it comes to their own public appropriation of music that someone else holds the copyright to, usually without even asking.

[UglyGreed]

3. That reminds me of the good old days

when I was threaten by Metallica in 1998 when they found Enter Sandman on my Napster files.......

Please disregard Dennis Miller but Dave Grohl's comments are worth it.

[Unknown Beatle]

8. I lost a lot of respect for Metallica and Madonna after the Napster debacle.

Great article on Lars Ulrich and Napster.

Lars Ulrich and the Napster Debacle Revisited

When I was just a wee lad growing up in San Diego, I remember being shown a new service called Napster. Oh, what a glorious invention this was. One could go online, find a song, and it just twenty short minutes, that song could be yours for free. I knew that music would never be the same and I couldn’t wait to see what the future would hold.

Little did I know that the future included dumb-ass Lars Ulrich sailing in on his doucheboat with his crew of lawyers, ready to wipe out all of the evil 15-year-old pirates who dare steal this captain’s music. YARRRR!!!!! Sorry. I’ll stop with all of the pirate talk…Ok, one more: YARRRR!!!!!!

Anyway, I got to thinking lately that Lars didn’t really handle the situation well. For that matter, the music industry didn’t either. The invention of Napster would eventually lead to iTunes, Rhapsody, Pandora, Spotify, Band Camp plus the proliferation of mp3 players like the iPod, the evolution of cell phones and the eventual rise of the iPhone. Every single one of those has had a huge impact on how we listen to music today.

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[UglyGreed]

9. Thanks for the article

I was a part of Napster when it first started and still have many of my MP3s on a hard drive. I never made money or bootleg copies I just enjoy music and was shocked when I was told by Metallica to delete the MP3 or else. WTF man it was just one song lol.

[Unknown Beatle]

11. It was greed, pure and simple.

South Park had an episode of the poor rich bastards that were crying because they were losing money.

A study indicated that with Napster, sales were increasing because it was giving artists more exposure.

[UglyGreed]

13. Yup I learned about a lot of

music at that time and went out and bought many CDs. BTW I never bought any Metallica CDs after I deleted Enter Sandman

[Doctor_J]

15. I remember one of the shows had Lars and Chuck D on with a point/counterpoint

on the subject. Chuck D believed that Napster was just 21st century radio, it would benefit the artists over time. Everyone knows what Lars's position was.

[Wilms]

4. Pretty brazen or stupid.

Maybe both.

[Doctor_J]

5. And then there is Sanders, who got permission BEFOREHAND to use S&G's America in an ad

When it comes to presidential candidates, "one of these things is not like the others"

[Persondem]

14. See post #10. One group of supporters is not like the other. We don't make "stuff" up

and then get indignant over it.

[kgnu_fan]

6. Hilary is not a rebel, she is a Goldwater girl grown up to be an establishment lady

[Nyan]

16. ...and now a Goldman girl.

[Art_from_Ark]

28. A Goldman Material girl

"They can beg and they can plead
But they can't see the light (that's right)
'Cause the boy with the cold hard cash
Is always Mister Right"

[rjsquirrel]

7. Umm it doesn't work like that

Most popular music is under compulsory license for broadcast, live performance, or cover recording. You can demand royalties but you can't prohibit the use of a song as the songwriter. Streaming media are under different rules, but an artist can't actually make a campaign stop using a recording of a song at rallies, for example, at least not under intellectual property law (possibly one can sue over implied endorsement).

Ask Chrissy Hynde, as Rush Limpballs has used her song for 20+ years as bumper music. She gets paid and it goes to PETA. She can't make him stop.

[Adrahil]

10. For clarification, the Clinton campaign DID NOT MAKE THIS AD

It was made by two Clinton supporters just because they liked her. Clinton did not commission it, and did not authorize it.

It was the equivalent of a fan film.

[Loudestlib]

21. They used it " After Clinton campaign head John Podesta tweeted the video" nice try though.

[Adrahil]

24. Yeah, they tweeted out someone elses work.

And why not? They did not make it, and so had no responsibilty to secure permissions, etc.

But nice try though!


This place is going from the ridiculous to the sublime.

[demwing]

25. So they downloaded it, and distributed it?

Regular citizens have been prosecuted for the same...

[Adrahil]

26. OFFS....

This is getting insane.

Absolutely insane.

[demwing]

29. If Hillary wasn't such a corrupt liar

Maybe people might not be so quick to mistrust and condemn

[Jefferson23]

12. The REVOLUTION? They're actually trying to sell her platform as a revolution..did I get that right?

“When she walks, the revolution's coming."

They gotta be fucking kidding me. This is her millennial outreach?

[rpannier]

17. With her it's more like Counter-revolution

[warrprayer]

18. More like "counter insurgency"

The "insurgents" being We rhe People

[Action_Patrol]

19. Not to upset your outrage but

This was a fan video that was supported and shared via Twitter by another founding member, the lead singer, Kathleen Hanna.
Tobi didn't like it so now we've come to this.

[Loudestlib]

23. And Clinton campaign head John Podesta tweeted the video

[Feeling the Bern]

20. A 'rebel girl' does not submit to the military-industrial complex and cast votes for unnecessary war

Truer words never spoken before. If Hillary is a rebel, I'm the fucking Easter Bunny.

[Grassy Knoll]

22. Hillary Doesn't Need That Trash Band Anyway

https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=bikini+kill&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Grrl Punk Band From The 90's With Songs Like: Suck My Left One
And: I Like Fucking
Somebody wasn't thinking when they picked that band to begin with.

[JonathanRackham]

27. "You Can't Always Get What You Want"

Better lyrics, better applied.

[demwing]

30. But Hillary will not help us "get what you need"

No matter how hard we try