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Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:15 AM

 

Making lemonade from lemons

The posts from Clinton supporters are different than the posts I saw yesterday. Going into Super Tuesday, it was all over for Bernie Sanders. Nothing left to do but not get hurt by the flying champagne corks at Clinton victory parties. There are still some proclamations of a huge victory, of course, and Sanders obituaries, but the tone is a little more muted around here. There is some reaching, the best of which I thought was a demand that Elizabeth Warren endorse Clinton because her state was a Clinton win. Is that a new rule? If your state votes for a candidate in the primary, do you have to endorse that candidate? It's nice that Clinton supporters are realizing Sanders is a credible opponent. It will be interesting to see how the Clinton campaign responds to not getting the Final Blow they expected.

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Response to HassleCat (Original post)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:17 AM

1. If Supers have to vote for how their state does...

...I fully expect the Clinton supporters to advocate that Sen. Leahy switch his superdelegate vote. I'm sure those calls will be made any minute now.

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Response to HassleCat (Original post)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:23 AM

2. I can't speak for other Hillary supporters, but I am happy with the outcome tonight.

 

Things were becoming so contentious between the two sides, that I think having Bernie experience a few victories was a good way to equalize us all, and maybe calm everyone down. I always thought that having Bernie around for a while would allow the liberal voices to get a bigger say in the ultimate direction of Hillary's campaign, and I think that has happened. I'm one of those people who likes what Bernie has to say...but I like Clinton and her experience a bit more.

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Response to anotherproletariat (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:29 AM

5. Liberal voices will get no say

in the ultimate direction of Hillary's campaign.

Liberals will get a few bones thrown and be expected to roll over and play dead.
Don't you know how it really works?

Let's make sure Bernie stays "around" as a candidate.

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Response to HassleCat (Original post)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:25 AM

3. It will be interesting. I need to wait until the morning

 

for both parties, that is, for the final delegate count.

I also been pointing to this... the 2008 primary,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Tuesday,_2008

This is actually going the way I expected... I like contested primaries

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Response to HassleCat (Original post)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:25 AM

4. 538 is predicting HC wins in MI, IL, OH, NC, & FL. Lots of delegates there.

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Response to HassleCat (Original post)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:39 AM

6. Wait, who's attempting to make lemonade?

I will once again preface my comments by pointing out that I'm not a Clinton supporter. Those who think this was a good night for Sanders do not understand basic math and the meaning of demographics. While tonight didn't go as poorly for Sanders as it could have, he had a bad night. When all the results are in, Clinton will have made a *huge* gain in delegates. With the following states yet to vote: MI, OH, PA, NY, NJ, MD, FL, MO, LA, MS, IL, CA. And Washington DC.

On top of all that, there are no winner-take-all states, so Clinton will get a proportion of the delegates even in those states where Sanders can reasonably be expected to win (by a small margin for the most part). States that typically don't have all that many delegates to begin with.

Sorry, folks, but wishing doesn't make it so. Clinton will be the nominee.

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Response to HassleCat (Original post)

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:03 AM

7. Hillary's awesomely funded, establishment-backed pay-to-play shtick plays great in deep red states.

And nowhere else.

Democrats could literally not field a worse candidate than Hillary Clinton in terms of riling up the Republican base to vote against her while leaving the Democratic base stone cold. Nor could the Democrats find a single worse individual to nominate in terms of unfavorability ratings among independent voters.

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