2016 Postmortem
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Where Democrats actually need to win, the MA primary was basically a draw, so the delegate count will probably be a difference of two or three, none of the states where Hillary was successful, are in play for the general. I feel invigorated.
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)trueblue2007
(17,218 posts)aidbo
(2,328 posts)This is the only day of the primary one could make that pun so it had to be done.
sheshe2
(83,759 posts)Democratic Primary Results (90.8% reporting)
Hillary Clinton: 552589 50.5%, 61 Delegates (includes 16 superdelegates)
Bernie Sanders: 528653 48.3%, 47 (includes 1 superdelegate)
http://www.electionprojection.com/massachusetts-primary/
k8conant
(3,030 posts)So: HRC 45 Bernie Sanders 46
HoosierRadical
(390 posts)despite the Clinton machine.
hillarysong2016
(83 posts)it used to bring up the results without superdelegate when you searched google for "iowa caucus results" or "NH primary results" but now for super Tuesday results google displays graphic that DOES include super-delegates....without them one can see that HRC has a thin lead relatively speaking...but most people won't take extra time to notice that...really it is a psychological war on Bernie supporters by the media...some think it's on purpose...I agree some cases are the media cheerleading for Hillary..in other cases I think it's more like FEAR of reaction from the vindictive Clinton machine...probably a combination of reasons but anyway you're quite right..
HoosierRadical
(390 posts)and Bernie is up by 1. Feel the BERN!
hillarysong2016
(83 posts)which ones are more like frightened and scared not to cross Hillary whose Game of Clinton Thrones (or Clinton Mafia) have "made them an offer they can't refuse"
At lead Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii just endorsed Bernie! I looked at her positions...one could do worse than her for Bernie's VP...
HoosierRadical
(390 posts)are only supporting her out of fear of retribution in the event she manages to win. The CBC are some of the most progressive voices in the House, they know Bernie's policy are better for the nation, but, the Clinton machine is a force to be reckon with.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Owns the votes and the deeds to them.
Sorry to break it to you, although they may be bought or persuaded by threats of being on her vindictive enemies list, they are supposed to vote with the state's voter's decision proportional to the vote, and have done so on a regular basis, to act as owned property and vote against the actual citizens, would b cheating and stealing. An election like that stolen from the voters would destroy the party.
If it goes down as you think (stolen by purchase or threat, the 68 convention would look like a happy picnic) and the voters would revolt with write-in, alternate party voting or by completely abstaining from voting after a fixed Primary election.
hillarysong2016
(83 posts)you're right the superdelegates are supposed to go wtih the people and have never in past elections, overturned that popular will HOWEVER by the media giving this (very anti-Bernie) spin it creates hopelessness, which leads to "he can't win" which leads to lower pro-Bernie turnout which...leads to an actual win by Hillary...or can lead to it, if we don't resist it enough...There have been youtube videos encouraging people to write or email to media about this "Hillary has a huge lead b/c of superdelegates" spin...
hillarysong2016
(83 posts)Media Reporting Un-cast Super Delegate Votes for Hillary Clinton Misleading & Unethical
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Rockyj
(538 posts)YOU ROCK BERNIE!
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)She has exhausted her firewall and her war chest. And she is more unpopular than ever: her elitist message is detested by way too many voters.
HoosierRadical
(390 posts)Hillary's time is up, we reject her corporatist policies.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Like with gay rights and TPP, prison industry, et alii, she is always the last to join the right side of history.
deepestblue
(349 posts)She has exhausted her firewall and her war chest. And she is more unpopular than ever: her elitist message is detested by way too many voters.
And this is why the media is reporting the superdelegate total in an act of last ditch desperation. The campaign will begin to crystallize if the Colorado/Mass./Minnesota trends continue in the other blue states.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)The concerted effort by some Sanders supporters to dismiss the black vote is shocking to me.
HoosierRadical
(390 posts)I'm African American.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)(above thanks goes to datguy_6), who put things into perspective prior to Super Tuesday...
I am off to work, and what I need to do (may you can, too) is to re-examine the delegate delta that heads us into the next phase. ALL OF IT'S BETTER THAN PREDICTED.
The prediction of datguy helped invigorate me, and certainly your post does. I'm in a swing state. I just need someone to take a look at the predictions versus actual Tuesday votes/delegates.
Go, Bernie!
onenote
(42,702 posts)in the GE?
That seems to be the logic you are displaying. It makes as much sense as suggesting that when Clinton won the NY and CA primaries in 2008 it was evidence that Obama couldn't win blue states.
And for the record (1) I'm from Virginia (2) Virginia is a state that is "in play" for the general; (3) I voted for Bernie in the Virginia primary; and (4) if Clinton is the nominee, I will vote for her in the general.
Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)The drumbeat since SC was that he would only win VT. Well looks like he won 4 states and didn't do bad at all in MA. He did better than the pundits and her supporters were all predicting. He is in it to win it!
We can still do it! We will do it!