No,Hillary Clinton is not paying herself from campaign funds.

[sufrommich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1411154



I'm sure we'll be getting an apology from the Sanders supporters who look to right wing sites for dirt on Hillary Clinton soon.


There doesn't seem to be a bottom to how low some will go.

[NurseJackie]

1. Doubtful. (Are RW sources allowed?)

Go, Hillary! We love you!

[dlwickham]

49. If they attack Hillary all sources are allowed

If they attack Hillary all sources are allowed

[Gothmog]

103. I cannot believe that we are seeing RWNJ sources being used on DU

[NCTraveler]

2. That one met the definition of ratfucking.

One hundred percent.

I like the transparency.

[sufrommich]

3. It sure does.nt

[obamanut2012]

72. Totally agree

[Gothmog]

4. I am the treasurer for a Texas GPAC and two candidates

I have had to deal with in-kind contributions on filings with the Texas Ethics Board. This line of attack is truly wrong. Skinner's explanation is a good one.

[sufrommich]

5. Thanks for the explanation. The link to a right wing site

should have been their first clue. The lie has over 50 recs.

[BlueCaliDem]

30. 70 recs now. Sheesh. The CDS is strong with those folks that they'll believe anything

negative about her. Uneffingbelievable.

[tularetom]

89. I know what in-kind contributions are, but not in this context

My neighbor used to claim deductions for time he spent volunteering on various Rotary Club functions. He tried to get me to do the same thing but I never bothered.

Perhaps you could enlighten me. Or if you think Skinner's explanation will clear it up post a link.

Was money transferred from the campaign account to Clinton's personal account?

If so, was this money ostensibly repayment for "in kind contributions" (services rendered) the candidate made to her own campaign?

[Gothmog]

90. The claim in the article being cited by Sanders supporters is truly stupid and sad

Here is the link to Skinner's explanation http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1411154 These are expenditure being made by parties on behalf of the campaign. The article being cited is truly sad and wrong.

[tularetom]

91. Thanks for that

I assume that in-kind contributions made to a political campaign, cannot be claimed as a tax deduction.

It pissed me off that my neighbor was essentially making the taxpayers reimburse him for his civic "good deeds", but then I probably shouldn't have been surprised since he was our local right wing district attorney.

[Gothmog]

104. Campaign contributions are not tax deductible

If someone is claiming these as deductions then report them to the IRS.

Contributions to some 501(c)(4)s may be tax deductible but that is not clear to me. A donation to a candidate is never deductible on your taxes

[INdemo]

6. Is there no end to the stuff the Hillary

Attack dogs dream up that right Bill,David and John the Karl Rovians.
Why would we think Hillary is paying herself when she has millions from The Golden boy.
It would not surprise me though is Bill being a paid adviser?

It would be legal and Bill would certainly take advantage of it.

[sufrommich]

9. Deflect all you want. You're fellow supporters got caught in a lie.

A right wing lie.

[Downwinder]

7. FEC Filing PAYROLL & BENEFITS

http://www.fec.gov/fecviewer/CandCmteTransaction.do

page 422
CLINTON, HILLARY RODHAM PAYROLL & BENEFITS NEW YORK NY 10185 11/14/2015 $16,534
CLINTON, HILLARY RODHAM PAYROLL & BENEFITS NEW YORK NY 10185 11/28/2015 $16,277
CLINTON, HILLARY RODHAM PAYROLL & BENEFITS NEW YORK NY 10185 12/12/2015 $42,032
CLINTON, HILLARY RODHAM PAYROLL & BENEFITS NEW YORK NY 10185 12/26/2015 $14,482
CLINTON, HILLARY RODHAM PAYROLL & BENEFITS NEW YORK NY 10185 01/29/2016 $24,546
CLINTON, HILLARY RODHAM COMPUTER EQUIPMENT & OFFICE SUPPLIES NEW YORK NY 10185 01/29/2016 $11,010
CLINTON, HILLARY RODHAM PAYROLL & BENEFITS NEW YORK NY 10185 01/09/2016 $32,451
CLINTON, HILLARY RODHAM PAYROLL & BENEFITS NEW YORK NY 10185 01/23/2016 $31,881

[Godhumor]

8. All are in-kind received

Every one of them.

[Downwinder]

11. Operating Expenditures - HILLARY FOR AMERICA

[Godhumor]

21. You can go and look up every single transaction individually. I did

They're all in-kind payments.

[obamanut2012]

73. Give it up -- the OP was wrong

at best, a deliberate lie at worst.

[sufrommich]

10. It's a lie,it's been pointed out that it's a lie.

The fact that you're doubling down is embarrassing.

[ThePhilosopher04]

14. I don't know that it's a lie. In fact, it's probably the truth. She is corrupt after all.

nm

[JaneyVee]

26. What about this truth?

http://freebeacon.com/politics/sanders-and-wife-steered-campaign-nonprofit-money-to-family-and-friends/

[BlueCaliDem]

33. BAM! Out of the park, JaneyVee!

And as expected:

[Agschmid]

40. Clearly that's just a "right wing source"...

That apparently seems to only work in one direction.

[Downwinder]

15. tell the FEC they have their expenditures and receipts

mixed up. I am just repeating their data.

[sufrommich]

16. There is literally an explanation right in the OP.

Did you bother reading it??

[Agschmid]

18. No.

[Downwinder]

19. Post the corresponding contribution data.

[onenote]

23. Why do you persist in openly displaying your ignorance?

This has been explained by folks (including Skinner) who have far more knowledge and experience than you obviously have.

[Laf.La.Dem.]

79. This is what I got when I went to your "hot link"?

Requested Information Not Found





We're sorry we were unable to process your request. Please try again. If you need help, please contact the Public Records Office at [phone] and our staff will assist you during normal business hours. Members of the media, please contact the Press Office at [phone].

[Downwinder]

83. Try this.

http://www.fec.gov/fecviewer/CandidateCommitteeDetail.do?candidateCommitteeId=C00575795&tabIndex=1

Select Operating Expenditures

Scroll to page 422

[yardwork]

12. The OP of the other thread should self delete.

[sufrommich]

13. Don't hold your breath.

[Gothmog]

105. Agreed

[kydo]

17. The alert button doesn't work in GD-P

I saw the OP to the right wing site and sent an alert, you know cause it's a link to right wing crazy stuff. But I guess my alert was disappeared.

Seems to happen a lot in the GD-P for anti-Hillary posts. But boy oh boy the Hillary Clinton Group as all these hidden posts, so I guess Sanders supporters' alert buttons work great for them. Kind of a double standard.

But no worries soon the primaries will be over, and most of those people will leave and we can have our DU back. God I can't wait.

[sufrommich]

22. The right wing sourced lie posted by a Sanders supporter

survived a jury.They pointed with pride to that fact right in the original OP.

[kydo]

28. Figures

But damn if I haven't seen this type of behavior before. Oh yeah, its pretty reminiscing of the free republic. Sometimes coming into the GD-P feels eerily familiar.

But again that's ok soon this will be over HRC will be the nominee and then in Nov she will be President.

[BlueMTexpat]

64. "Kind of a double standard?"

Ya think!

When it is something that says something vile about Hillary, it's OK. It doesn't even have to be real, as per the OP being protested. B***S*** can even be manufactured and that's OK too.

Anything goes - open season on the best qualified candidate who "just" also happens to be a woman.

[kydo]

100. yeppers thats pretty much what goes down on DU these days

Sometimes I have to check the url make sure it says demorcaticunderground.com and not freerepublic.com - as it seems for the last few months the right wing as taken over this website. Normally posts that are using places like freebeacon or of similar ilk, get hidden or locked. But only when it is anti Sanders. If its anti Clinton then by all means feel free to use right wing sources. Crazy ain't it?

[Blue_Adept]

20. The downside to new people in the process

is a complete and utter lack of understanding of the process.

[sufrommich]

25. The now debunked OP has over 60 recs and rising.

Most of the recs come from posters who understand the process just fine.

[Blue_Adept]

27. yeah, that's a whole other issue

I'd like to attribute it to just party partisanship but I'm also figuring that it's just a huge dumbing down across the board.

[bigtree]

24. k&r

[quickesst]

29. I would say...

...it's close to an alliance without the formalities. The goal seems to be the same. Bring Hillary down. It's disgusting.

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=&imgrefurl=http://www.sodahead.com/fun/the-color-pink-cute-or-disgusting/question-1775471/&h=320&w=278&tbnid=AM_utD7w4V4w1M:&docid=mN5h8-KMz4vVKM&ei=C8XZVs_lFIPr-QGJkaRg&tbm=isch&client=ms-android-verizon&ved=0ahUKEwiPl6G3xqfLAhWDdT4KHYkICQwQMwhoKB4wHg

[Thinkingabout]

31. First question, why, does she need to be paid from campaign funds. Travel expenses sure

but not a pay check. Remember she is entitled to SS at this time and also she receives royalty from her book sales. a silly position to take. My question is Bernie and Jane paying themselves from the campaign since this is a question ask about Hillary.

[sufrommich]

34. She's not getting a paycheck.

Oh my God,read the linked explanation!

[Thinkingabout]

38. I know she isn't getting paid, she has other resources, is Bernie and Jane receiving a paycheck

from their campaign fund? Hillary may be getting her travel expenses paid but then we expect her to show up at different events.

[sufrommich]

41. Lol,sorry. I'm getting a little knee jerky.

[Thinkingabout]

44. No problem, I thought the SS was enough to take care of all of her needs, lol

[lamp_shade]

32. Thanks. Thumbs up.

[kydo]

35. K&R

Think we should all keep kicking this up until it as more posts then the on with lie from the right wing site.

[kydo]

36. Kicking it up

[kydo]

37. Kicking it up for the truth

[MineralMan]

39. Kick for visibility...

This is all so embarrassing...

The other OP should self-delete his incorrect analysis from a right-wing source.

[Bubzer]

42. "There doesn't seem to be a bottom to how low some will go." - I agree!

Some would even go so far as to embrace Robert Kagan, Henry Kissinger, Lloyd Blankfein, David Brock and Larry Fink!!!

[sufrommich]

45. So you're OK with right wing lies from right wing

sources as long as they're used against the candidate you're not voting for. Check.

[That Guy 888]

48. It would help if you put the debunking links in your OP

Clinton and Sanders supporters aren't in a trust me on faith mood.

[obamanut2012]

74. She did -- it's the link in her OP

[That Guy 888]

87. My apologies, I thought it was the other link to the post that said

Hillary Clinton is paying herself out of campaign funds.

Too many open tabs, not enough attention paid on my part.

[Bubzer]

62. Of course not. I'm not okay with lies from ANYONE! Right or left, it doesn't matter.

That's why I object to a candidate embracing Robert Kagan, Henry Kissinger, Lloyd Blankfein, David Brock and Larry Fink.

[kydo]

43. Time for some truth kicking

[kydo]

46. K&R time

[radical noodle]

47. K&R

No one in GD-P wants the truth.

[UtahLib]

50. Good work,, thank you

[kydo]

51. This OP needs some kicking!

[JohnnyLib2]

52. Thanks.

Goooood grief.

[taught_me_patience]

53. kick

[kydo]

54. K&R

[kydo]

55. I see this needs a boost .. K&R

[kydo]

56. Cause spreading the truth is hard work

K&R

[kydo]

57. K&R

[kydo]

58. K&R

[MineralMan]

59. kick

[SunSeeker]

60. K & R for exposure. nt

[ismnotwasm]

61. K&R

[George II]

63. As I've been saying all week in response to this steady stream of contrived attacks on Clinton:

Hillary Clinton will still win the Democratic nomination and be elected President.

[MineralMan]

65. Most likely, I agree.

[George II]

66. I hope you're not holding your breath!

[smiley]

67. I don't care….

I still don't trust her.

[MineralMan]

68. Kick

[passiveporcupine]

69. I'm glad the other thread was shut down

We don't need shit like this here. But, why am I familiar with that link? Oh, I remember...it was used against Bernie and his wife and family right here on this site earlier. I don't know if that was shut down. But it was certainly used, even though it's supposed to be a right wing attack link.

So no, I don't approve of garbage links and garbage stories being used against "either" candidate. thank you skinner for shutting it down on the other thread. Now how about shutting it down on this one too?

[msanthrope]

75. My thread was shut down, but the original, false thread was not. mt

[obamanut2012]

78. It's not shut down -- still open, on fire, and being recced

An embarrassment to DU.

[passiveporcupine]

81. Why didn't skinner shut it down?

Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought it was against TOS to post right wing crap links.

[obamanut2012]

85. It's supposed to be against community standards

The OP was juried and survived.

[passiveporcupine]

88. OK thanks

the jury was wrong.

[Cryptoad]

70. GOP ran two negative Campaigns against Obama

to no avail, u would think BernBots would have learned something along the way. If u can not promote Bern's Positive attributes, u can not win this election.

[DesertRat]

71. k&r

[riversedge]

76. Sanders fans are getting pretty desperate.

[Nanjeanne]

77. I could care less about Hillary's payment or not. Not an issue for me in this campaign. Apology?

I'm still waiting for America Ferrera's and Dolores Huerta's.

[2pooped2pop]

80. A bottom on how low some will go?

I was just wondering that as I just read another entire thread against Bernie and his supporters.

It certainly makes it clear that you are all still worried that Bill will be playing the deja vu blues for Hillary or you would all be quieting your smug act down by now instead of continuing the shit stirring. Thanks for keeping us informed of the mood in the Hillary camp though.

[LAS14]

82. K

[mcar]

84. K&R

[Starry Messenger]

86. k&r

[Persondem]

92. And that thread is up to 112 recs. That's 112 DU-ers who get all rightious and indignant over

Clinton's supposed dishonesty yet have no problem endorsing such outrageous RW bullshit if it suits their purpose.

K & R

[Fla Dem]

93. It didn't bite the dust, Skinner just explained the transaction. Still posts being added.

Some don't bother to read the up thread.

I'm not sure it was ever alerted on. If Skinner let it stay, an alert probably won't be successful.

[riversedge]

94. k

[mac56]

97. Sharon, please note the top of the page.

This is "General Discussion - Primaries" and not the Hillary group.

Welcome to DU, by the way.

[mac56]

99. Some of us made the exact opposite mistake.

Thinking we were posting in GD-P, and were actually posting in the Hillary group.

I hope that doesn't happen to you!

[riversedge]

96. k

[MoonRiver]

98. What a pathetic and desperate crowd.

I feel sorry for them.

[SidDithers]

101. The right hates Hillary. The fringe left hates Hillary...

sometimes it's pretty damn hard to tell them apart.

Sid

[sheshe2]

102. Kick