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Bernie and Cruz Show Some Life, But... (Original Post) tgards79 Mar 2016 OP
Bernie states are coming soon RobertEarl Mar 2016 #1
What do "Bernie states" have in common? Garrett78 Mar 2016 #6
*2026 MillennialDem Mar 2016 #7
2383 Garrett78 Mar 2016 #11
That includes 717 superdelegates. We should assume that the supers will MillennialDem Mar 2016 #13
California, New York RobertEarl Mar 2016 #8
Washington and Oregon, perhaps. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #12
Sheesh RobertEarl Mar 2016 #14
Uh, nobody doubted he could win VT or NH. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #16
No kidding? RobertEarl Mar 2016 #17
We're just 2 people giving an opinion. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #18
We've heard it all before!!! RobertEarl Mar 2016 #19
A reality is a reality whether you like it or not. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #20
Garret is absolutely correct. tgards79 Mar 2016 #21
Do you ever look at polls? tgards79 Mar 2016 #23
California is about 1 chance in 1,000,000 for Bernie. ucrdem Mar 2016 #15
You guys are so scared of Bernie you can't wait until the convention can you? liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #2
Right, I am sure anything you've ever fought for you would have preferred to have dragged out stevenleser Mar 2016 #3
Please do the math yourself tgards79 Mar 2016 #5
I did the math already. Before this weekend Bernie needed to win 53.8% of the remaining delegates. MillennialDem Mar 2016 #9
My vote is my vote. You do not get to tell me how to vote. You are going on ignore. liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #22
Of course Clinton stayed in until the convention. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #10
Nice try Old Codger Mar 2016 #4
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
1. Bernie states are coming soon
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:50 AM
Mar 2016

Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska ... impossible for Bernie to win. we were told..

From day one we've heard the "You can't gave Bernie, he can't win anything and has no money" well them days are over, right? So why are you wasting your time here?

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
6. What do "Bernie states" have in common?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:16 AM
Mar 2016

They have relatively few delegates and little diversity. The likes of Wyoming, Idaho, Delaware and Alaska aren't going to get Sanders anywhere close to 2383 delegates.

 

MillennialDem

(2,367 posts)
13. That includes 717 superdelegates. We should assume that the supers will
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:51 AM
Mar 2016

50% + 1 vote for the winner of the majority of regular delegates, which requires 2026, which would give over 2383.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
8. California, New York
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:20 AM
Mar 2016

The whole left coast. Etc. Already he has surprised the heck out of the smart pundits, and he ain't done yet.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
14. Sheesh
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:53 AM
Mar 2016

Where have you been? It was said Bernie could maybe win Vermont and NH. That he couldn't compete with the big money.

And yet you sit there and preach more of the same falsities? Frankly Garret, you don't know what you are talking about.

Is it any wonder some of us are really getting tired of yall doubters wasting time?

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
16. Uh, nobody doubted he could win VT or NH.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:11 AM
Mar 2016

VT was a given and Sanders had been favored in neighboring NH for quite some time. And the other states he's won are also small states lacking in diversity. Until that changes, Sanders won't be on track to come anywhere close to 2383 delegates. Now, a win in Michigan would be big. Wins in Florida, Missouri, Illinois, North Carolina and Ohio (or even just 3 of those 5) on the 15th would be even bigger.

But Oklahoma, Nebraska, Kansas, Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, Alaska, Indiana, West Virginia, North Dakota, South Dakota and New England states? That's not going to cut it.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
17. No kidding?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:17 AM
Mar 2016

Well, golly darn, Garret has spoken again. The great Garret has spoken so all of us should just quit bothering Garret with our hope for real change.


Go tell Bernie. Quick, he needs to know the great Garret has spoken and he should just give up!!

Can you tell I'm making fun of you?

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
18. We're just 2 people giving an opinion.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:32 AM
Mar 2016

Your silly sarcasm demonstrates you don't actually have a valid response. I haven't said Sanders should quit, nor am I a Clinton supporter. I'm just pointing out some mathematical and demographic realities.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
19. We've heard it all before!!!
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:46 AM
Mar 2016

And all you deserve is sarcasm. You are merely pointing out your opinion, not realities, so there you go contradicting yourself and why all you get now is sarcasm. And brow-beating.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
20. A reality is a reality whether you like it or not.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:28 AM
Mar 2016

Clinton is winning larger and more diverse states. Sanders is winning smaller and less diverse states. Clinton is a heavy favorite in the remaining large, more diverse states. Denying that reality doesn't make it go away.

tgards79

(1,415 posts)
21. Garret is absolutely correct.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:52 AM
Mar 2016

The math is overwhelming. There is no way for Bernie to catch up even if he wins. He has to win landslides (60/40 everywhere) and that is simply not happening. Too many minorities who back Hillary by enormous margins.

tgards79

(1,415 posts)
23. Do you ever look at polls?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:38 AM
Mar 2016

Hillary will crush Bernie in Michigan AND Mississippi to tomorrow. It is over, stop fantasizing.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
15. California is about 1 chance in 1,000,000 for Bernie.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:02 AM
Mar 2016

Not a single Dem that I'm aware of has endorsed/mentioned him and it's a Dem state with a popular Dem governor (endorsed Hillary a year ago) and a popular senator (Boxer) who is a Hilly surrogate. Plus Ahnold and his GOP pals absolutely thrashed the place in their Bush-era reign of terror and we're still picking up the pieces. Bernie ain't happening n the golden state.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
2. You guys are so scared of Bernie you can't wait until the convention can you?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:52 AM
Mar 2016

Hillary stayed in until the convention. Why not Bernie? I get to cast my vote for Bernie on March 26. I can't wait. You're attempt to tamper support for Bernie will fail.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
3. Right, I am sure anything you've ever fought for you would have preferred to have dragged out
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:54 AM
Mar 2016

and made longer than necessary.

 

MillennialDem

(2,367 posts)
9. I did the math already. Before this weekend Bernie needed to win 53.8% of the remaining delegates.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:20 AM
Mar 2016

Not impossible or even unreasonable by a long shot.

Unlikely yes.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
10. Of course Clinton stayed in until the convention.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:24 AM
Mar 2016

She won the popular vote by a hair and only lost the delegate count by a hair (thanks to superdelegates). The 2008 race was incredibly close; as close as it gets. It's way too early to draw a comparison with 2016, but it's highly unlikely that this year's contest will resemble the 2008 version.

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