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JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:51 AM Mar 2016

If you want to save the planet then voting for corporacrats isn't a way to do it.

Corporacrats are pro free trade, the TPP supercedes all environmental laws and protections.

Whether it is a corporacrat or a republican we're getting the TPP, I don't believe Trump is against the TPP.

With Hillary and her fellow corporacrats winning seats more deregulation, war, and free trade is a coming. So enjoy the ride as the TPP supercedes the sovereignty of this nation.

With the TPP the supreme Court doesn't matter because the corporate tribunal will have more power than our highest court.

People really have no idea what's coming down the pike. I'm glad I started doing well before the shit hits the fan.

All I have to say is Good Luck!

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If you want to save the planet then voting for corporacrats isn't a way to do it. (Original Post) JRLeft Mar 2016 OP
Corprocrat -- Good term. Very accurate Armstead Mar 2016 #1
+1 daleanime Mar 2016 #3
It's 100% accurate, how do you want to bet corprocrats won't get the blame JRLeft Mar 2016 #4
More damage will be done under a Clinton administration, some are so partisan in their Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #2
People have no idea how bad the TPP is. JRLeft Mar 2016 #5
Yes that and not enough people know to help Bernie win that Frank-Dodd will not prevent Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #6
Yeah Dodd-Frank is about as tough as building a bridge out of paper. JRLeft Mar 2016 #7
Exactly, and the irony is rich..her supporters believe the Republicans are the only problem. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #8
I don't know if most democratic voters realize they've been getting screwed by the people they elect JRLeft Mar 2016 #9
It is hard to measure, I would agree. When you look at both sides one can conclude the cons Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #10
I think she still wins, but she throw the people a bone knowing the TPP JRLeft Mar 2016 #11
I think its going to be a squeaker..very tight even with Bernie helping her. Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #12
She wins IMO and continues the oligarchial state's destruction on the people. JRLeft Mar 2016 #13
Well yea, that's the fear and the determination of the movement will be tested as well. Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #14
Democratic voters are enjoying the ass whooping the corporacrats have been JRLeft Mar 2016 #15
I have a dear friend who feels as you do, we haven't felt enough pain yet to wake us up. Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #16
I don't think we're even close to the amount of pain needed to convince democratic voters to stop JRLeft Mar 2016 #17
 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
4. It's 100% accurate, how do you want to bet corprocrats won't get the blame
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:56 AM
Mar 2016

when their failed policies ruin lives? Republicans will say communism did it and democrats will blame republicans.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
2. More damage will be done under a Clinton administration, some are so partisan in their
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:54 AM
Mar 2016

politics they lose objectivity when looking at their own party.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
6. Yes that and not enough people know to help Bernie win that Frank-Dodd will not prevent
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:03 PM
Mar 2016

another financial crisis. The movement will continue but it will take longer for
these enablers of injustice to be replaced.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
9. I don't know if most democratic voters realize they've been getting screwed by the people they elect
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:18 PM
Mar 2016

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
10. It is hard to measure, I would agree. When you look at both sides one can conclude the cons
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:45 PM
Mar 2016

know something is very wrong yet their anger is displaced to attack minorities.
At the same time they are attracted to guy who in addition to blaming minorities
he knows the trade deals hurt Americans like them, he has his own money..so one
can see his appeal..however misguided they are. I noticed when Romney gave
his speech to persuade cons to reject Trump he did not even throw them a bone,
he did not indicate in any meaningful way that the establishment would indeed
stop representing exclusively the investment class..very telling. He doesn't fear
Trump will lose he fears he will win.

Additionally we still have millions of disaffected voters across all demographics
who have not voted in a very long time..and not enough time for Bernie to sway
them, imo.

Hilary seems set to rely on..I am not Trump to win, and I am not confident
that will work much longer for Democrats. Independent voters are a crap shoot
too and they as a group are not necessarily going to vote for her.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
11. I think she still wins, but she throw the people a bone knowing the TPP
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:48 PM
Mar 2016

will make that law irrelevant.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
12. I think its going to be a squeaker..very tight even with Bernie helping her.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 12:57 PM
Mar 2016

How he goes about it and to what extent is unknown. Clinton, last night,
already spoke to looking for Sanders voters to support her to make sure a Republican
doesn't win.

She is not a candidate with an inspirational message and she has too many ties to WS. Perhaps
Brock will help her win.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
13. She wins IMO and continues the oligarchial state's destruction on the people.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 03:16 PM
Mar 2016

That's what a good corporacrat will do.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
14. Well yea, that's the fear and the determination of the movement will be tested as well.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 03:22 PM
Mar 2016

No political movement makes gains in a straight line..so we'll see.


She has had every advantage and Bernie so many obstacles yet he has
been a formidable opponent...that success no one in the DNC should
deny but I suspect they'll keep their heads in the sand and say phew! We
warded off meaningful change...at least for now.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
15. Democratic voters are enjoying the ass whooping the corporacrats have been
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 03:38 PM
Mar 2016

dishing out. Believe they're not done.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
16. I have a dear friend who feels as you do, we haven't felt enough pain yet to wake us up.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 03:42 PM
Mar 2016

You both may be right.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
17. I don't think we're even close to the amount of pain needed to convince democratic voters to stop
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 04:00 PM
Mar 2016

corporacrat.

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