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Jennifer Granholm downplaying expectations for HRC in Michigan (Original Post) grasswire Mar 2016 OP
It is a method to get out the vote Godhumor Mar 2016 #1
Political Science 101... Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #2
There were 20 OPs started yesterday about Clinton being ahead 20 points in Michigan CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #3
It Would Be More Noteworthy... SDJay Mar 2016 #4
Jennifer skippers Michigan's DLC Wing Octafish Mar 2016 #5

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
1. It is a method to get out the vote
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 01:55 PM
Mar 2016

They said the same thing before SC and Super Tuesday, too. The concern is that if voters think the race is in the bag, they won't bother to show up. Claiming it is tight is a much better way of making sure it won't be.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
3. There were 20 OPs started yesterday about Clinton being ahead 20 points in Michigan
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 02:09 PM
Mar 2016

I guess things tightened up since yesterday?

SDJay

(1,089 posts)
4. It Would Be More Noteworthy...
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 02:13 PM
Mar 2016

and stupid of her to have said that this one is in the bag and HRC is going to mop the floor with SBS. I don't think it has anything to do with internals - she's just doing her job of getting people motivated to vote.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
5. Jennifer skippers Michigan's DLC Wing
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 02:13 PM
Mar 2016

Here's the guy from the Democratic Wing:

[font color="blue"]David Bonior[/font color] and the Democrats who opposed genocide in Central America were targeted by the Right cough CIA BFEE. The Democratic Party Whip was redistricted out of his seat because the GOP controlled the state house and governor Sphincter's mansion.



CIA Out of Control

Russ Baker
Village Voice, Sept. 10, 1991

EXCERPT...

Dellums press secretary Max Miller says the representative from
Berkeley, together with majority whip David Bonior--another
outspoken liberal--made an agreement with Speaker Thomas Foley to
maintain a low profile in return for gaining seats on the committee.
After one full round of legislation and briefings, Miller says,
Dellums will be heard from. "They wanted to find out as much as
they could before speaking out." Meanwhile, the energetic Oliver
North, in his role as president of something called the Freedom
Alliance, has launched a campaign to collect a million Dump Dellums
signatures. He calls Dellums "a pro-Marxist, antidefense radical,"
who would be a threat on the "supersensitive" committee. Putting
Dellums on the panel, North says, was an "extremely reckless and
very dangerous appointment."

And those who make trouble get trouble. Reports and rumors that
the apparatus pokes into the personal lives of members of Congress
underlines the danger of investigating national security agencies.
"There's a little bit of fear that if you do go after the
intelligence community, your career is threatened," says McGehee,
author of "Deadly Deceits: My 25 years in the CIA." Even the
complacent Senate intelligence committee chair David Boren has
reason to worry. According to the "Voice"'s Doug Ireland (see Press
Clips, May 28), Boren faced a vicious primary battle in his first
senatorial campaign, during which his opponents accused him of being
a homosexual. At a press conference, Boren swore on a white Bible
that he was not. "It would therefore be utterly churlish," Ireland
wrote, "to speculate on whether or not the Company has a file on the
state of its tamed watchdog's libido." Since then, Boren has called
Robert Gates "one of the most candid people we've ever dealt with."

Leading congressional critics of the CIA have been defeated,
despite their long, distinguished careers in Washington and
Congress's nearly foolproof 98 per cent reelection rate. Both Otis
Pike and Frank Church were defeated soon after chairing their
precedent-setting '70s hearings. Pike's report had been so
incendiary that Congress voted not to release it before the White
House had a chance to censor the document. (It was ultimately
leaked to and published by the "Voice.&quot Pike's committee staff
director had been warned by the CIA special counsel, "Pike will pay
for this, you wait and see--we'll destroy him for this," according
to "The New York Times." Also defeated were outspoken senators Dick
Clark, Birch Bayh, and Harold Hughes. Foreign money--possibly South
African--is believed to have financed the defeat of Clark, a vocal
critic of the CIA and U.S. ties with South Africa.

Challenging the CIA also means trying to rein in dictatorial
tendencies that naturally accrue to the occupant of the Oval Office.
"Every president of the United States, no matter what he says before
he becomes president, about how he's going to clean things up," says
Marchetti, "once he gets in there and finds out that's *his* agency,
that's *his* intelligence community, hey, all bets are off."

One man who told the truth blew his chance to become CIA
director, thanks to "reformer" Jimmy Carter. Hank Knoche, acting
director following Bush's retirement, had been called down to a
Senate committee. "The chairman was complaining that `we just don't
know what's really going on,'" says Marchetti, who was privy to the
details of the incident. "They asked [Knoche] about covert action
operations: `Do we know all the stuff that's going on? Could you
tell us more about them?'" Asked to reveal the 10 largest ongoing
operations, Knoche offered to name a few of the lesser ones, despite
urgings from his aide that he keep his mouth shut. President Carter
reportedly heard about it, and was none too happy. Instead of
Knoche, the odds-on favorite for the slot, he named intelligence
novice and old Naval Academy chum Admiral Stansfield Turner. "Hank
learned his lesson that day," says Marchetti.

CONTINUED...

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Other liberal, progressive and humanitarian Democrats, likewise got the ziggy in the press and at the ballot box for opposing genocide in the name of capitalism. What a coincidence.
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