2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI have never seen a worse-handled debate than this Univision debate.
Hillary has been given I would wager at least twice as much time as Bernie. Questions are posed to her supposedly to touch on key points but they're nothing more than excuses to give her a chance to expostulate on subjects like Benghazi at great length. She will present her answers and go on for 3 minutes or longer, then turn to Bernie and after he's spoken for 30 seconds, they instantly start calling out his name, Thank you Mr Sanders, etc., trying to get him to stop. Then, it's back to Hillary for another long and boring listing of general point after general point about some new dramatic difference in opinions from twenty years ago and today.
I wonder how much Univision and CNN and/or the reporters supposedly hosting the debate are being paid by some of the Goldman-Sachs and fossil fuel and pharmaceutical corporations.
This whole debate was and is a farce it seems to me. Bernie has done a good job I think in pointing out differences between him and Hillary, and Hillary has done a very good job in endlessly talking about one general point after another, always ending on some high note of general agreement among everybody so she gets loud applause, leaving a trail of general statements and half-truths that Bernie gets 15 seconds to rebut. How he's able to get his points in as well as he does in nothing short of a miracle.
I think Univision is more interested in a spectacle and the appearance of fairness than the actual pursuit of truth and the presentation of real platform points and ideas where the speakers are put on an equal footing.
MattP
(3,304 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)You can't make the same excuse at the Democratic debates.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)another example of the corruption in the press and in our campaign system.
I hope someone who can do it times the debate and outs Univision with regard to how many minutes each candidate was given to speak.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)renate
(13,776 posts)They should have to do some kind of disclaimer. (In an ideal world....)
LSK
(36,846 posts)This debate was horrible. The best debate this year was one where they just let them go.
StrayKat
(570 posts)But, yes, it was not even moderation.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)The latest beating always feels like the worst.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)Arazi
(6,829 posts)That's bullshit
Bernie did an outstanding job despite the clear bias
Aerows
(39,961 posts)and every single issue it wandered into the weeds when Hillary attempted to spell out her position.
Bernie didn't have problems, because he was clear, concise and refused to equivocate.