While we are talking about Cuba

[cannabis_flower]

This is something I saw in the Hillary group but didn't post my comment there because I didn't care to get alerted.

http://www.latintimes.com/democratic-debate-bernie-sanders-stumbles-fidel-castro-question-miami-374005

They quoted Hillary:

“I think in that same interview, he praised what he called the revolution of values in Cuba and talked about how people were working for the common good, not for themselves. I just couldn't disagree more. You know, if the values are that you oppress people, you disappear people, you imprison people or even kill people for expressing their opinions, for expressing freedom of speech, that is not the kind of revolution of values that I ever want to see anywhere.”

This would be my response:

Ok, while we are talking about Cuba, how about talking about Hillary's friend Henry Kissinger and how he and the CIA contributed to the overthrow of Salvador Allende, the installation of Augusto Pinochet and the disappearance of tens of thousands of Chileans. Pinochet wasn't a communist but he was a brutal authoritarian dictator. Is it somehow okay to support a brutal dictator if he is not a communist but if they happen to be a communist they aren't acceptable?

While we are talking about that, how about talking about US support for the Shah of Iran, Saddam Hussan, Samosa in Nicaragua, Ferdanand Marcos in the Philippines, whoever it was in Guatemala and and whoever it was that the Sandanistas in El Salvador was trying to overthrow. All brutal dictators, all supported by the US, mostly because the people trying to overthrow them were Communists or Socialists. Is that what we want to support?

[Human101948]

1. Kissinger and Bush were responsible for assassination on the streets of Washington, D.C.

New documents link Kissinger, Bush senior to Letelier assassination
By Patrick Martin
20 April 2010
Documents released last week by the National Security Archive, which has played a valuable role in uncovering evidence of the crimes of American imperialism in Latin America, provide new details on the role of top US officials in facilitating the assassination of former Chilean foreign minister Orlando Letelier.
These documents add to the overwhelming case for the prosecution of then-secretary of state Henry Kissinger, then-CIA director George H. W. Bush and other top officials for their role in these and other murders perpetrated by military juntas allied with and backed by the US government.
The September 21, 1976 murder of Letelier and an American aide, Ronni Moffitt, was the most spectacular act of international terrorism on US soil up to that time. The two were killed, and Moffitt’s husband Michael wounded, when a bomb detonated underneath their car as they rounded Sheridan Circle in northwest Washington D.C., barely a mile from the White House.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2010/04/lete-a20.html

[Jitter65]

2. Another wild stretch back into someone else's past that Hillary is responsible for???

WoW!!! but it works because just look at the comments here and elsewhere. If Obama isn't responsible for everything in the present, then Hillary is responsible for everything in the past. She may have even been in diapers when the event occurred.

We can besmirch Hillary for being a "Goldwater Girl" who quickly saw the light and became a staunch Democrat but we will never hold Bernie accountable for his past as a Marxist and his change to I and then to D for the purpose of running for election.

The double standards are mind boggling.

[cannabis_flower]

3. I am refering back to

Clinton's support, I think in the first debate of her "friend" Henry Kissinger. Hillary was 25 in 1973 when Allende was deposed. I'm not saying Hillary was responsible for these situations, just that she has stated that she admires and welcomes the support of Kissinger who was responsible for quite a bit of it.

[Armstead]

7. You are personalizing history -- This is not a beauty contest

It's about the basic philosophies and approaches to the world each one represents.

[iandhr]

4. How about the fact there is no freedom of speech and they jail dissidents?

[cannabis_flower]

5. Are you refering to Cuba?

They also jailed (or worse disappeared ) people in Chile. That is a feature of authoritarian regimes both communist and fascist. US only supports the fascist governments. If you are fascist and authoritarian you are okie-dokie with the US corporatists, if you are a communist authoritarian you have to go.

[Armstead]

6. I suggest everyone watch this interview with Bernie

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511461355