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we didn't break any debate rules.....oh, you have a photo? I didn't know that existed. (Original Post) Press Virginia Mar 2016 OP
"But I am special." pangaia Mar 2016 #1
"I'm Hillary, dammit." GoneFishin Mar 2016 #44
None of them were labeled as "staff" when she spoke to them FBaggins Mar 2016 #148
good one 840high Mar 2016 #157
Hahahahahaha! Press Virginia Mar 2016 #165
!! Ruby the Liberal Mar 2016 #181
Well rules don't apply to her. jillan Mar 2016 #2
Autocratic leaders believe that their positions give them the right to break the rules. Baitball Blogger Mar 2016 #10
And people wonder why we are fed up... tk2kewl Mar 2016 #21
If Ms. Schultz Plucketeer Mar 2016 #125
How do we know that is during the break? Renew Deal Mar 2016 #3
Clinton breaking rules is cool with you? LondonReign2 Mar 2016 #5
Is there proof that is during the break? Renew Deal Mar 2016 #7
I would point to Palmieri's response as evidence that it was Press Virginia Mar 2016 #12
"It depends on what the meaning of is is." appal_jack Mar 2016 #174
Project much???? UglyGreed Mar 2016 #6
The same guy at the core of this years biggest political scandal (data theft) should be trusted Renew Deal Mar 2016 #9
Lol NWCorona Mar 2016 #11
You're welcome Renew Deal Mar 2016 #41
BWHAHAHA LondonReign2 Mar 2016 #13
That sounds like a good plan! dchill Mar 2016 #24
Bernie personally apologized for his campaigns actions Renew Deal Mar 2016 #42
This year's biggest political scandal MrChuck Mar 2016 #17
And if Ted Cruz happens to be the nominee shawn703 Mar 2016 #53
Who would you vote for? Renew Deal Mar 2016 #91
How many times UglyGreed Mar 2016 #18
And Bernie hired him Renew Deal Mar 2016 #43
Well Bernie's Campaign UglyGreed Mar 2016 #58
Whos says there was a data theft, Clinton? Where's the proof? Where the proof? bahrbearian Mar 2016 #20
It's the one Bernie personally apologized for Renew Deal Mar 2016 #40
Thats not proof of theft. Hillary agreed to an investigation ,what happened to that? bahrbearian Mar 2016 #64
Is that the one where Bernie supporters snort Mar 2016 #88
Yes... and requests for donations. bvar22 Mar 2016 #169
My daughter started receiving emails snort Mar 2016 #170
This also happened in 2008 UglyGreed Mar 2016 #22
The fact that you have to reach back down to the bottom of an empty barrel proves that A Simple Game Mar 2016 #68
lol tazkcmo Mar 2016 #75
What is this place? I just looked up 'irony' in the dictionary and it sent me here. Marr Mar 2016 #96
Hands down Bernie has the wittiest supporters. snagglepuss Mar 2016 #180
You trust the person at the core of the 2008 data Lordquinton Mar 2016 #118
Good point Gwhittey Mar 2016 #25
It depends on what the meaning of "staff" is, I guess, huh? Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #32
Rules? monicaangela Mar 2016 #4
walking down a hall is illegal.... artyteacher Mar 2016 #8
Who said anything about "illegal?" seattleite Mar 2016 #19
The rules of the debate banned candidates from meeting with staff during breaks. Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #27
do you have proof of time... artyteacher Mar 2016 #30
Palmieri's response speaks volumes Press Virginia Mar 2016 #31
meh... another boring non issue... eom artyteacher Mar 2016 #35
Ethics? Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #36
Yeaaaaah...who cares if HRC ignores even the most simple rules Press Virginia Mar 2016 #37
You guys would be peeing your collective chonies Le Taz Hot Mar 2016 #38
one, after another, after another, after another... dana_b Mar 2016 #166
What I have ... Trajan Mar 2016 #102
i'm used to closed minded people. artyteacher Mar 2016 #108
Welcome back! arcane1 Mar 2016 #143
Yes, no one should care Scalded Nun Mar 2016 #133
I wonder if this is why she's been late returning from breaks at some debates. n/t winter is coming Mar 2016 #161
Although this speaks to larger issues with HRC ... Myrina Mar 2016 #14
easy addition to the pile of evidence that shows she is untrustworthy tk2kewl Mar 2016 #23
I disagree. This is exactly the sort of thing that needs to be mentioned. Marr Mar 2016 #101
You miss the point StandingInLeftField Mar 2016 #107
If you pile every tiny Clinton indiscretion one on top of the other pretty soon you have a mountain. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #128
A moronic commentor wrote, "Where's the timestamp, the audio recording... nothing to see move along" TheBlackAdder Mar 2016 #15
Could be on her private server. JBoy Mar 2016 #154
Congrats on 300 posts! bigwillq Mar 2016 #16
Cheating is a difficult habit to break. CBGLuthier Mar 2016 #26
It took Bill decades to stop his cheating Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #29
no, it took a heart attack, massive surgery, ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #50
Unrec. Agschmid Mar 2016 #70
Rules are for the proles. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #28
"If there is hope, it lies in the proles." nt VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #34
What else would you expect from her? pdsimdars Mar 2016 #33
Haven't there been issues with her taking extra long breaks in other debates?! noamnety Mar 2016 #39
are you taking about the bathroom episode? greymouse Mar 2016 #61
I read that the biggest time eater of that break noamnety Mar 2016 #73
She's not had that problem since... Ino Mar 2016 #78
the bathroom break NJCher Mar 2016 #153
She looks like she's walking well ahead of staff and not talking. But I guess Sanders' conspiracy Hoyt Mar 2016 #45
Then why didn't Palmieri flat out deny it happened? Press Virginia Mar 2016 #48
I think he denied she conferred with staff. You think Sanders walked through a deserted service Hoyt Mar 2016 #82
You think? Based on what Press Virginia Mar 2016 #84
Ok then.... SoapBox Mar 2016 #55
She's not conferring with staff as the photo shows. Even if she had, it's not a big Hoyt Mar 2016 #83
It breaks the rules if she did. Press Virginia Mar 2016 #85
Well the Fantasy Man has broken a few himself. Hoyt Mar 2016 #136
Look... We all know you're not big on following rules others are bound by, but cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #132
So Sanders didn't violate the talk limit rules. I get Clinton did, but Sanders broke the rules too. Hoyt Mar 2016 #135
I don't kick the ball OUT of the rough! cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #147
This is just embarassing Fairgo Mar 2016 #160
She would never be walking "by herself in a deserted cement hallway"... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #141
walking is not confering... artyteacher Mar 2016 #46
Then why not deny it happened? Press Virginia Mar 2016 #49
The Rules said CONTACT........ THIS WAS CONTACT Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #138
Jen says...she didn't know the photo existed. SoapBox Mar 2016 #47
It's a very odd response Press Virginia Mar 2016 #51
hmmm rtracey Mar 2016 #52
Palmieri's surprise over the picture speaks more than her failure to deny any meeting happened Press Virginia Mar 2016 #56
Oh please.. give me a break Peacetrain Mar 2016 #54
Then why didn't Palmieri deny it instead of being surprised by the picture? Press Virginia Mar 2016 #57
Exactly what did she say.. Palmieri?? Peacetrain Mar 2016 #62
She expressed surprise that there was a picture. Press Virginia Mar 2016 #65
Seriously this is about Clinton walking to get a drink of water??.. Peacetrain Mar 2016 #67
Why would her staff follow her to get a drink or whatever? Press Virginia Mar 2016 #69
well the picture proves she was not meeting with the staff.. Peacetrain Mar 2016 #71
Then why didn't Palmieri deny it happened rather than express surprise that there was a picture? Press Virginia Mar 2016 #93
Seriously.. because she was not aware a picture had been taken Peacetrain Mar 2016 #98
Why would it matter if a pic had been taken? She was in it, why not just deny Press Virginia Mar 2016 #100
Telepathically walking in front of them ooooohhhhkkkayyy??? Peacetrain Mar 2016 #106
Palmieri was there. Why not deny it happened Press Virginia Mar 2016 #112
The picture "proves" no such thing. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #134
yes, and it was against the rules of the debate TheSarcastinator Mar 2016 #72
What was against the rules of the debate?? Peacetrain Mar 2016 #76
If she can't meet with them why would they be following her? Press Virginia Mar 2016 #90
That is what staff do Peacetrain Mar 2016 #95
Soooo they trail behind her in case she gets lonely? Press Virginia Mar 2016 #99
what did they deny? that they did not confer with her Peacetrain Mar 2016 #104
Palmieri didn't deny HRC met with her staff during the break. Seems an easy thing Press Virginia Mar 2016 #109
You got her on walking behind Clinton as she goes for a drink.. Peacetrain Mar 2016 #116
A claim the woman, who was there, didn't make Press Virginia Mar 2016 #119
Why... why.. why... darned if I know.. Peacetrain Mar 2016 #122
Why would a picture change the story? Press Virginia Mar 2016 #124
Why not deny HRC met with her staff? Press Virginia Mar 2016 #121
Pssst ... you are the only one that has decided she was just going for a drink. ebayfool Mar 2016 #177
I understand this is not a national security issue, but it is against the rules, she clearly liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #105
How did she break the rules.. someone has yet to explain that! Peacetrain Mar 2016 #113
Why would staff have to follow her for a drink of water? nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #164
besides, she has water at the podium. grasswire Mar 2016 #171
Someone could show you a picture of Hillary Clinton firing puppies out of a cannon Marr Mar 2016 #115
You got pictures of her firing puppies out of a cannon.. dang Peacetrain Mar 2016 #117
The pretzels they'll twist themselves into Press Virginia Mar 2016 #123
There's no reason for her staff to follow her noamnety Mar 2016 #163
They keep wanting HRC to deny doing something she didn't do so th headline can read "Hillary Denies" Hekate Mar 2016 #176
Lie, Cheat and Steal... Clinton Family Values AzDar Mar 2016 #59
The Bernie campaign does a hell of a lot of whining ... salinsky Mar 2016 #60
If you can't explain your own issues noamnety Mar 2016 #74
Maybe it's like filming movies, where it's someone's job to track continuity. n/t winter is coming Mar 2016 #162
Speaking of trivial... jtuck004 Mar 2016 #80
Yet another example right here, of how Clinton's fans tend to be authoritarians. Marr Mar 2016 #92
Welcome to DU Trajan Mar 2016 #140
... salinsky Mar 2016 #145
She's a MAVERICK! EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 #63
well rtracey Mar 2016 #66
The Clinton Approach TheSarcastinator Mar 2016 #77
Jeff Weaver? Bwahahahaha NCTraveler Mar 2016 #79
Why is this against the rules, out of curiosity? Arkana Mar 2016 #81
Why Even have an agreement on Rules? Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #87
If you'd bothered to actually read what I said Arkana Mar 2016 #152
Exactly the same attitude that spawned her email scandal and a whole host of other Marr Mar 2016 #86
At least you can clearly see the sniper fire in it Mufaddal Mar 2016 #89
If someone, somewhere, sometime did this Scalded Nun Mar 2016 #94
Rules, like taxes, are for little people, not the elite. Gary 50 Mar 2016 #97
She said he's getting to me and they said it's time to use the Commie thingy bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #103
lie # 98,627 amborin Mar 2016 #110
Really? RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #130
Aren't the debate rules made by the debate hosts? They aren't legally binding so maybe she feels Cleita Mar 2016 #111
Oh snap! And Faux pas Mar 2016 #114
Rules are for others. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #120
More sleaze and lies from the Clinton camp ... how surprising. Arugula Latte Mar 2016 #126
She needed all the extra help she could get. Broward Mar 2016 #127
Why can't people just shut up and eat their freakin' cake? RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #129
K&R zentrum Mar 2016 #131
Funny! NurseJackie Mar 2016 #137
Obviously Clinton was sending Morse Code signals with her gait. randome Mar 2016 #139
She's amazing! So talented! She can do ANYTHING!! NurseJackie Mar 2016 #144
Surely nobody expected actual *honesty* from Clinton, did they? arcane1 Mar 2016 #142
But, but Donald Trump did it, too! RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #146
Mediaite said that. --who I riversedge Mar 2016 #149
It depends on what the definition of "is" is. mac56 Mar 2016 #150
Oh look. All her supporters are telling us why the rules don't apply to her Scootaloo Mar 2016 #151
^ this ^ Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #172
Cheater Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #155
Hillary's not much for playing by the rules, thus the email scandal. Vinca Mar 2016 #156
But her predecessors did so its okay for her d_legendary1 Mar 2016 #158
But of course. Kicked. mariawr Mar 2016 #159
Wow. Cheated. Called him a commie who supports death squads, Minute Man, pal of the Koch Bros. The Midway Rebel Mar 2016 #167
Oh my silenttigersong Mar 2016 #168
K & R Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #173
Was she on her way to the Ladies Room? We all know how terribly concerning it was a few debates ago Hekate Mar 2016 #175
Clinton staff "we did not have meeting relations with that woman" Jarqui Mar 2016 #178
Does Weaver or anyone know who any of those people are? George II Mar 2016 #179

FBaggins

(26,731 posts)
148. None of them were labeled as "staff" when she spoke to them
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 01:21 PM
Mar 2016

Without the label, she can't be expected to know who she can and can't speak to within the established rules... right?

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
125. If Ms. Schultz
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:40 PM
Mar 2016

would just give the Bernie team a copy of the script, they'd then know how to play along! The Bernie team continues to play as tho they had designs on winning. Silly Socialist!


Requisite for Dummies->

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
3. How do we know that is during the break?
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:35 AM
Mar 2016

Is this another Sanders dirty trick?

Weaver should write a letter to the editor.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
5. Clinton breaking rules is cool with you?
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:38 AM
Mar 2016

OK. Used to be the Democratic party stood for something and it was the Republicans who cheated and their supporters cheered. I guess times and ethics change.

 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
174. "It depends on what the meaning of is is."
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:41 PM
Mar 2016

"It depends on what the meaning of is is."

That surely will be familiar Clintonian logic to you...

-app

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
6. Project much????
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:39 AM
Mar 2016

Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against their own unpleasant impulses by denying their existence while attributing them to others.[1] For example, a person who is rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude. It can take the form of blame shifting.

According to some research, the projection of one's negative qualities onto others is a common process in everyday life.[2]

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
9. The same guy at the core of this years biggest political scandal (data theft) should be trusted
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:43 AM
Mar 2016

Even though he provides no evidence?

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
13. BWHAHAHA
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:47 AM
Mar 2016

Sorry, I did not realize I was speaking with someone detached from reality. I'll avoid that mistake in the future.

MrChuck

(279 posts)
17. This year's biggest political scandal
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:49 AM
Mar 2016

is not the data breach.
First off, that was last year.
Second, the GOP is trying to elect Donald Turnip.
THAT, my friend, is a scandal.
Also Hilldawg is going down due to the email thing. She Mau not be indicted but someone is going to pay and it will stick to her like a booger.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
18. How many times
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:50 AM
Mar 2016

do I have to mention that DNC officials and a staffer at NGP VAN recommended Josh Uretsky.

?1450545784

Ties that bind...............

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
58. Well Bernie's Campaign
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:36 AM
Mar 2016

has learned their lesson, you can't trust the NGP VAN and the DNC................. wonder why after the threat of a lawsuit to reveal the workings of the whole mess the DNC backed off??? Oh and one more reminder that this occurred in 2008 and so many years later NGP VAN still can't do their job correctly, wonder why they are still around???

bahrbearian

(13,466 posts)
20. Whos says there was a data theft, Clinton? Where's the proof? Where the proof?
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:51 AM
Mar 2016

Didn't Clinton agree to an investigation on that. Where's the investigation, she lied again.

bahrbearian

(13,466 posts)
64. Thats not proof of theft. Hillary agreed to an investigation ,what happened to that?
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:41 AM
Mar 2016

She'll look into it, ya right.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
169. Yes... and requests for donations.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 07:17 PM
Mar 2016

We stopped all donations to the DNC, DCCC, and DSCC over 10 years ago and requested we be removed from their lists. We started donating directly to individual candidates, or Liberal Organizations.

THEN, we moved to another state where we have lived with NO communications from the DNC or other national Party fundraising scams for over 10 years....

UNTIL a week and half AFTER the so called data theft.
THEN we started getting mailers and phone calls from Hillary's campaign begging for money.

snort

(2,334 posts)
170. My daughter started receiving emails
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 07:58 PM
Mar 2016

from Hillary Inc. at about the 2 week mark. She never even so much as looked at her website in the past. Hillary has zero integrity.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
22. This also happened in 2008
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:52 AM
Mar 2016

NGP VAN does not do their job very well.....or perhaps they do what they are told to do

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
68. The fact that you have to reach back down to the bottom of an empty barrel proves that
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:46 AM
Mar 2016

you really have nothing to use against Bernie other than projecting Hillary's faults onto him.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
75. lol
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:55 AM
Mar 2016

That's the biggest scandal? How do you steal something you're given? Repeating a lie doesn't make it true. This old story died shortly after the DNC/Clinton campaign fabricated it.

Maybe you heard about a possible indictment of a presidential candidate for mishandling of sensitive government information? The "It wasn't marked classified when it was sent" doesn't hold up to the regulations governing the handling of sensitive (not just marked) information. Storing, sending and receiving said information on the equivalent of a Hotmail account just might fall under gross negligence.

Nice summary here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251552653

You might also consider the opinions of the cyber security professionals here on DU. They have an in depth knowledge of government protocols for handling information, classified or not.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
180. Hands down Bernie has the wittiest supporters.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 11:56 AM
Mar 2016

Gawd that has had me howlin. Thanks. Needed that.

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
25. Good point
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:56 AM
Mar 2016

This right here is why so many GOP vote for a party that bitches about welfare while mostly being on welfare.

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
4. Rules?
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:36 AM
Mar 2016

Those are for the little people. I am ex-first lady, ex-senator, ex-secretary of state and I am privileged, those rules don't apply to me, plus, with all my experience, I need more help than others, I mean after all, I'm a woman and you are being sexist if you say I can't break this rule. Donald Trump broke the rule and nobody said anything to him about it....I will be president, I will, I will, I will......

 

seattleite

(79 posts)
19. Who said anything about "illegal?"
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:50 AM
Mar 2016

It was against debate rules. If you want to accuse someone of grasping at straws, probably best for you to look in a mirror.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
27. The rules of the debate banned candidates from meeting with staff during breaks.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:06 AM
Mar 2016

That's her staff....., that's her. with her staff......... that's meeting in the hallway.

Boom ........... caught breaking the agreed upon rules,
caught lying about meeting, game set match..........

When contacted by Henry, Clinton spokeswoman Jen Palmieri responded by saying she didn’t know the photo existed.

 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
37. Yeaaaaah...who cares if HRC ignores even the most simple rules
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:15 AM
Mar 2016

It's not like voters have an issue with her honesty or anything

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
166. one, after another, after another, after another...
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 07:06 PM
Mar 2016

it never ends and evidently rules don't apply to her. But the Hillary supporters don't care. As long as she wins!!! Wheeee!!!!

Scalded Nun

(1,236 posts)
133. Yes, no one should care
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:50 PM
Mar 2016

It is just Hillary cheating and lying. We should be used to that by now and just accept the fact that her behavior just projects her values. No news here.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
14. Although this speaks to larger issues with HRC ...
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:48 AM
Mar 2016

... I think there are other things the Sanders camp can be focusing on. This looks petty. Yeah she's an elitist cheater, but her policies and alliances are of more concern to the average voter (or should be), than something like this.

JMHO.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
101. I disagree. This is exactly the sort of thing that needs to be mentioned.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:23 PM
Mar 2016

She disregards rules, and she's just plain untrustworthy.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
128. If you pile every tiny Clinton indiscretion one on top of the other pretty soon you have a mountain.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:46 PM
Mar 2016

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
50. no, it took a heart attack, massive surgery,
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:32 AM
Mar 2016

a long recovery, erectile dysfunction, and a refusal from his cardiac MD to allow him to use Viagra.

Only then was he sure to stop.

Have you seen recent video of him? He looks and sounds as though Charon is waiting around the corner to lead him across the Styx, so Bill can seek Clinton Foundation donations from Hades.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
39. Haven't there been issues with her taking extra long breaks in other debates?!
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:17 AM
Mar 2016

I bet that's what was really going on.

greymouse

(872 posts)
61. are you taking about the bathroom episode?
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:38 AM
Mar 2016

do you have any idea how long it takes a woman dressed like that to get her clothes arranged so she can pee? Ill give her that one.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
73. I read that the biggest time eater of that break
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:54 AM
Mar 2016

was the walk to and from the bathroom. I didn't think anything of it at the time, but now I wonder if her staff was able to walk and talk with her during that time.

Once a person has documented proof of cheating during a break, it calls into question what happened during previous breaks. That's the thing about losing your integrity - it makes people doubt your other actions as well.

NJCher

(35,661 posts)
153. the bathroom break
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 01:44 PM
Mar 2016

If you recall, was due to someone else being the bathroom. Hillary will not go to the bathroom with someone else in the room. That is why it took longer.

Craig Hulett (I'm not a fan) said she was known in the White House to have told people to not be in corridors when she walked through them. If you were there, you had to duck into an office, room off the corridor, or cross-corridor. She apparently wanted those corridors all to herself.

Not vouching for the veracity of this; just telling what I heard on a radio program.

However, the two incidents do seem to mesh. She seems to like her space.


Cher

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
45. She looks like she's walking well ahead of staff and not talking. But I guess Sanders' conspiracy
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:27 AM
Mar 2016

theorists think she should walk to the rest/dressing room by herself in a deserted cement hallway.

 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
48. Then why didn't Palmieri flat out deny it happened?
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:30 AM
Mar 2016

It should be an easy thing to say she didn't meet with her staff during a break.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
82. I think he denied she conferred with staff. You think Sanders walked through a deserted service
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:07 PM
Mar 2016

hallway by himself? I don't.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
55. Ok then....
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:33 AM
Mar 2016

Ya, about a "stride" ahead.

Point was she shouldn't have been with anyone of her staff.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
83. She's not conferring with staff as the photo shows. Even if she had, it's not a big
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:08 PM
Mar 2016

deal to anyone who isn't a conspiracy theorist. It wouldn't bother me if Clinton and Sanders were getting oxygen or IV fluids, or conferring with staff. Do you think as Prez they are ever going to make a big decision without staff?

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
132. Look... We all know you're not big on following rules others are bound by, but
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:50 PM
Mar 2016

Rules are still rules.

As I said in another post; if you pile every tiny Clinton indiscretion one on top of the other, pretty soon you have a mountain.

Therein lies the problem. Pointing out rules infractions isn't tantamount to promoting conspiracy theories, but I'm guessing you already knew that.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
135. So Sanders didn't violate the talk limit rules. I get Clinton did, but Sanders broke the rules too.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:53 PM
Mar 2016

Heck I don't play golf, but I bet he kicks the ball out of the rough -- you probably do too if you play.
 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
147. I don't kick the ball OUT of the rough!
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 01:19 PM
Mar 2016

I just roll it up on top of the nearest clump of grass and play it from there. Then again; I'm not playing in the most important tournament in the world... I'm just playing to see who buys the beer at the 19th Hole.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
141. She would never be walking "by herself in a deserted cement hallway"...
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 01:06 PM
Mar 2016

...she has 24/7 SS protection and they would be with her.

Fail.

artyteacher

(598 posts)
46. walking is not confering...
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:29 AM
Mar 2016

Confer .... To have discussions and exchange opinions...


Not walk behind....


And who besides desperate people acting like Republicans care?

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
138. The Rules said CONTACT........ THIS WAS CONTACT
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:59 PM
Mar 2016

Use the correct word on the agreement.

IT SAID CONTACT.......... this is CONTACT.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
47. Jen says...she didn't know the photo existed.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:30 AM
Mar 2016


Ms. Campaign Aide didn't deny that she was with her teams, just that they didn't know there was a picture of it.

No...More...Clintons.
 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
52. hmmm
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:32 AM
Mar 2016

looks like shes running to the bathroom, and looks like she is not conversing or even on the same walking plain as anyone else.... maybe I'm wrong.....

 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
57. Then why didn't Palmieri deny it instead of being surprised by the picture?
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:35 AM
Mar 2016

Should be easy to say it didn't happen

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
62. Exactly what did she say.. Palmieri??
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:40 AM
Mar 2016

Did she deny conferring with the candidate.. well that picture pretty much proves it..

Did she deny walking behind the candidate?? then you got her.. because she sure as hell is walking behind Clinton quite a ways..



 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
65. She expressed surprise that there was a picture.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:43 AM
Mar 2016

No denial. No "Hillary walked past us on her way back from the water fountain"....just "there's a picture?"

It's a little thing. A small, simple rule.

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
67. Seriously this is about Clinton walking to get a drink of water??..
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:45 AM
Mar 2016

And her staff is trailing behind her.. seriously ..

edit to add

And someone took a picture of it, and Palmeri did not realize a picture had been taken?? seriously

 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
69. Why would her staff follow her to get a drink or whatever?
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:48 AM
Mar 2016

It's a simple rule. No meeting with staff during breaks.

If it didn't happen, why didn't Palmieri just say so?

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
71. well the picture proves she was not meeting with the staff..
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:51 AM
Mar 2016

So I am sure they (the Clinton staffers) are happy campers someone took a picture of it now since this seems to be a meme going around

And with all the cameras that follow the candidates constantly I don't think that their staffs are probably even aware of cameras going off..


 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
93. Then why didn't Palmieri deny it happened rather than express surprise that there was a picture?
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:16 PM
Mar 2016

Seems an easy thing to deny....unless they think there might be more pictures

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
98. Seriously.. because she was not aware a picture had been taken
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:20 PM
Mar 2016

They have cameras snapping at them 24/7.. including cell phone cameras which most of us are not aware of.. and I am sure they are so happy someone took this picture..

 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
100. Why would it matter if a pic had been taken? She was in it, why not just deny
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:21 PM
Mar 2016

HRC met with her staff?

TheSarcastinator

(854 posts)
72. yes, and it was against the rules of the debate
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:52 AM
Mar 2016

The arrogance of Team Wall Street is simply astonishing. Hillary truly believes she cannot be held accountable.

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
76. What was against the rules of the debate??
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:55 AM
Mar 2016

Staff trailing behind her as she went to get a drink of water?? or huddling with your staff.. you know you can't have it both ways.. she was either going for a drink and the staff followed her.. or she was conferring with them.. the picture shows they were following her.. and you know what.. staff do that.. they follow behind..

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
95. That is what staff do
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:17 PM
Mar 2016

That is what secret service does.. They trail behind the candidates.. no candidate in this part of the race..is ever ever left alone in a public place.. she is not conferring with anyone.. she is walking ahead of them.. this is kind of sad, if this is what the campaigns are devolving too..

 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
99. Soooo they trail behind her in case she gets lonely?
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:20 PM
Mar 2016

Why no denial by her people, who were dutifully, fulfilling her need to be followed

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
104. what did they deny? that they did not confer with her
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:24 PM
Mar 2016

as she went for a drink of water.. picture proves it.. glad you put that up there because the meme could have taken off.. thank you who ever did that!! that people follow behind the candidates in public places..whew..now there is news.. that they did not know a picture had been taken.. obviously.. you want her to deny she did not know a picture was taken??? okay..

 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
109. Palmieri didn't deny HRC met with her staff during the break. Seems an easy thing
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:27 PM
Mar 2016

to do, since she was there.

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
116. You got her on walking behind Clinton as she goes for a drink..
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:31 PM
Mar 2016

You got her on that.. she did not know a picture was taken.. you got her on that.. she admitted to not knowing pictures were being taken..

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
122. Why... why.. why... darned if I know..
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:35 PM
Mar 2016

She did not know she had a picture taken of her and the staff and the SS trailing behind the candidate as she went to get a drink.. again.. its that telepathy thingy..

Gotta go Press.. have a good one.. wish I could hang around longer but real life calls me out.. have to buy some groceries for dinner..take care kiddo

 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
124. Why would a picture change the story?
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:38 PM
Mar 2016

She either met with her staff, including Palmieri, or she didn't.

ebayfool

(3,411 posts)
177. Pssst ... you are the only one that has decided she was just going for a drink.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 04:49 AM
Mar 2016

Clinton nor her people have said that, so quit trying to ascribe an action just because you think it makes the picture innocuous.

Contact with her people. Contact is the operative word here ... not water. You are flailing here.


liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
105. I understand this is not a national security issue, but it is against the rules, she clearly
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:24 PM
Mar 2016

broke the rules, and if you think her staff was not instructing her during that break you are naive. She clearly got an advantage that Sanders did not get.

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
113. How did she break the rules.. someone has yet to explain that!
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:29 PM
Mar 2016

Her staff and secret service is trailing behind her (as they do everywhere she goes) as she gets a drink of water.. now.. how are they instructing her.. the picture proves they are not... you can't have it both ways.. She is going for a drink of water with staff and SS trailing her.. of she is huddling with staff.. its either one or the other.. thank GOD for the picture I guess since it seems to be the meme of the moment..

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
171. besides, she has water at the podium.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:05 PM
Mar 2016

She wouldn't need to walk somewhere down a hall for a drink of water.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
115. Someone could show you a picture of Hillary Clinton firing puppies out of a cannon
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:31 PM
Mar 2016

and you'd say she was finding new homes for injured animals.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
163. There's no reason for her staff to follow her
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 04:47 PM
Mar 2016

unless she needs assistance to get a drink of water or use a toilet for some odd reason.

If they're walking with her, the most obvious reason is to do the West Wing talking-while-walking thing.

On the bright side, at least Bill wasn't behind stage using a bullhorn to give her debate tips.

Hekate

(90,667 posts)
176. They keep wanting HRC to deny doing something she didn't do so th headline can read "Hillary Denies"
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 04:21 AM
Mar 2016

It's an old and dirty tactic to put words into someone's mouth.

And as you can see, about a hundred DUers are concerned. So concerned.

salinsky

(1,065 posts)
60. The Bernie campaign does a hell of a lot of whining ...
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:38 AM
Mar 2016

... politics is a blood sport.

When you find yourself crying about something this trivial, you might not be cut out for it.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
74. If you can't explain your own issues
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:55 AM
Mar 2016

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without needing to cheat to get help from your staff, you might not be cut out for it.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
92. Yet another example right here, of how Clinton's fans tend to be authoritarians.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:15 PM
Mar 2016

They respect her more for breaking rules and throwing her weight around. They actually like that sort of bullying, alpha shit.

EmperorHasNoClothes

(4,797 posts)
63. She's a MAVERICK!
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:41 AM
Mar 2016

The real scandal is that she talked to her staff during the break and STILL lost badly.

Oh and Trump broke the same rule? Nice company you're keeping there Hillary.

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
66. well
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:44 AM
Mar 2016

Well, she lost badly hmmm, lets see who gets the nomination.....then we can say she/or he lost badly.....

TheSarcastinator

(854 posts)
77. The Clinton Approach
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:57 AM
Mar 2016

1. Deny everything.
2. When evidence emerges, act shocked.
3. make sure your internet support team does their best to muddy the waters with as many red herrings as possible.
4. When absolutely cornered, respond by claiming it was only a minor violation and that Trump did the same thing.

Keep it up, Team Wall Street, and continue to watch your Anointed One lose the race she was "born to win".

Hubris: how does it work again???

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
79. Jeff Weaver? Bwahahahaha
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:58 AM
Mar 2016

The same Jeff Weaver that said he didn't know the rules of the Iowa Caucus, after the Iowa Caucus.

This just keeps getting better.

And this is the same author who two days ago was talking about how there is no energy around Trump. Two days ago.

He also accused Clinton of cheating in the town hall.

Yet the Sanders campaign is the one we have confirmed is unethically campaigning. Has Weaver(I don't know the caucus rules) released his email communications with Uretsky yet?

Know your "journalist"

http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/09/liberal-politico-reporter-clinton-campaign-collapsing-completely/

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/daily-caller-didnt-realize-politico-writer-was-being-sarcastic-about-hillary/

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
81. Why is this against the rules, out of curiosity?
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:04 PM
Mar 2016

It just seems like a dumb thing to forbid candidates from.

I mean, you wouldn't forbid a boxer from going back to his corner after the round was over, would you?

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
152. If you'd bothered to actually read what I said
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 01:42 PM
Mar 2016

instead of dropping into a Hillary v. Bernie tribal crouch, all I meant was "why is this even a rule?" Candidates should be able to talk to their staff during commercial breaks. It's a dumb rule.

If Hillary broke it, that's stupid of her, but that doesn't change the fact that the rule itself is stupid.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
86. Exactly the same attitude that spawned her email scandal and a whole host of other
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:10 PM
Mar 2016

Clinton distractions.

There's a reason the Clintons get mired in so many of these things, and it isn't just a 'vast right wing conspiracy'. They both act like rules don't apply to them, and end up forcing everyone around them to provide cover.

Scalded Nun

(1,236 posts)
94. If someone, somewhere, sometime did this
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:16 PM
Mar 2016

Then it means I can do it too!

Just wait until that mantra of entitlement sits in the oval office.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
111. Aren't the debate rules made by the debate hosts? They aren't legally binding so maybe she feels
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:27 PM
Mar 2016

she doesn't have to comply. But what it does point to is her arrogance. She doesn't need to follow rules that she has agreed to. That's for the little people.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
129. Why can't people just shut up and eat their freakin' cake?
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:46 PM
Mar 2016

Don't mess with the Queen on her pre-ordaination tour. After all, she IS the Queen, and no rules apply to her.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
139. Obviously Clinton was sending Morse Code signals with her gait.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 01:02 PM
Mar 2016

And receiving them at the same time. It's so freaking obvious!
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"The whole world is a circus if you know how to look at it."
Tony Randall, 7 Faces of Dr. Lao (1964)
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riversedge

(70,204 posts)
149. Mediaite said that. --who I
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 01:28 PM
Mar 2016

believe loves to start false controversial issues. yes, i see your sarcasm.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
151. Oh look. All her supporters are telling us why the rules don't apply to her
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 01:41 PM
Mar 2016

Same people who go into an apoplectic rage when Sanders makes a gesture to the moderators.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
158. But her predecessors did so its okay for her
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 02:26 PM
Mar 2016

to blow off the rules since presidents can do anything...except have marital affairs it seems.

The Midway Rebel

(2,191 posts)
167. Wow. Cheated. Called him a commie who supports death squads, Minute Man, pal of the Koch Bros.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 07:16 PM
Mar 2016

And still managed to get her clock cleaned during the debate.

Hekate

(90,667 posts)
175. Was she on her way to the Ladies Room? We all know how terribly concerning it was a few debates ago
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 04:18 AM
Mar 2016

...that she might have a bodily function to take care of during the commercial break.

Very very concerning. I feel your concern.

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
178. Clinton staff "we did not have meeting relations with that woman"
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 08:01 AM
Mar 2016

Clinton Campaign motto: "Another day, another dirty trick or deception."

David Brock piece later today "Clinton privacy invaded during debate!!! (we've got photos of poor Hillary trying to get away)"

Can you imagine what the media on her running the White House is going to be like with stunts like this? The credibility of the video of her remarks to the press won't be worth the fraction of a penny of disk space it's stored on ... except to comedy shows ridiculing her.

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