2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders’s most vitriolic supporters really test the meaning of the word ‘progressive’
Sanders came out a while ago and said to cut out this crap. But many are not listening.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/03/10/bernie-sanderss-most-vitriolic-supporters-really-test-the-meaning-of-the-word-progressive/
Bernie Sanderss most vitriolic supporters really test the meaning of the word progressive
By Janell Ross March 10 at 10:22 AM
........................One final note before we get to a few examples of the behavior characterized above: The portion of Sanders supporters who read the paragraphs above and began to compose their tweets, emails and below-story comments, we are aware of that Intercept piece that argues that the "Berniebro" and his alleged public misbehavior is media-generated fiction.
But the emails, Twitter messages and comments I have received tell a different story. They use a variety of curse words and insults typically reserved for women. More than one has suggested that I deserve to become the victim of a sex crime. They critique the "objectivity" of what is clearly political analysis based on polling data and other facts; they insist that black voters are dumb or that I have a personal obligation to help black voters see the error of their Clinton-voting ways. It is vile. And it stands in sharp contrast to the claim that no portion of Sanders supporters are angry people who sometimes engage in or embrace bigotry.....................
......Voters of all races and ethnicities, genders and ages -- particularly anyone trying to assess Sanders and Clinton in the next few states where primary contests will be held -- are watching. They are listening. They too can see the online comments from whatever share of Sanders supporters who unleash real vitriol every day. The same certainly can be said for the #MississippiBerning hashtag and it's prolonged and earnest, if clueless and insensitive use.
This, folks, comes pretty close to Republican presidential candidates declaring theirs the party of diversity and inclusion while the GOP presidential front-runner has embraced exclusionary ideas over the course of the campaign. Just because Sanders and his supporters have declared themselves the most progressive, equality-loving, radical actors in the 2016 political game does not make it true for others.
Nor do those self-assigned labels suspend the ability of others to observe and vote accordingly.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)dogman
(6,073 posts)monicaangela
(1,508 posts)Did they fire Johnathan Capehart yet?
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)well done.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I'll be sure to flagellate myself with a handfull of spaghetti noodles while praising Hillary, to atone for the actions of my Berniebros.
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)Dems to Win
(2,161 posts)I supported Obama in spite of a few assholes also being on Team Obama. Same now, for Sanders.
I read at least 500 tweets last night during the Dem debate. One, count-em, ONE vile tweet called Hillary supporters the c word. For all I know it came from a Trump supporter.
I don't believe a word written in Jeff Bezos fiction rag. Bezos knows Bernie will make him pay his taxes, so he is on a mission to use the WaPo to take him down. I don't buy into anything written there.
musiclawyer
(2,335 posts)Bernie supporters are super informed and humorous, even if deadly serious.
For every over the top Bernie tweeter I can find you three HRC tweeters in same vein
840high
(17,196 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Don't you folks ever check? Never mind, I'm sure you don't care.
salinsky
(1,065 posts)... I do get a slight whiff of gamergate with a lot of Bernie supporters.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)progressivesonly
(9 posts)WaPo is just a long Hillary ad. I've stopped going there after that fact-free article by Capehart. To them journalistic integrity is an afterthought if not a nuisance.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)-none
(1,884 posts)themselves are doing.
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)I know nothing of twitter but the article could have been easily written about the over the top vitriol and hyperbole directed at Hillary Clinton on this very board.
riversedge
(70,218 posts)those who do use twitter.....
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)kcr
(15,317 posts)Last edited Thu Mar 10, 2016, 06:33 PM - Edit history (1)
Supporting a candidate because they aren't the other candidate is actually nothing new and it is primary season. But given how progressive Bernie's policies are, it makes it glaringly obvious sometimes.
A perfect example of this: A thread about a young woman who was fired from Yelp for publicly complaining about her low wages. 9 bucks an hour in San Francisco in 2016. Of all the people tut tutting about how privileged and stupid she was, I could see more than one Bernie avatar. That? Does not add up.
Oh, here's another one I just found. If that's not a perfect example of what the OP is talking about, and exactly what turns people off. Why it seems like hardly any Hillary supporters are around anymore. This was indeed posted on International Woman's day!:
username redacted (25,008 posts)
37. An International Woman's Day kick, and remember that HRC & Bill were America's 1st "co-presidency"
and look at how their "policies" have harmed so many of US-particularly people of color and women.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)bigtree
(85,996 posts)...Elizabeth Warren's facebook page comes to mind, among countless other examples.
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)Actually are HRC operatives -- wouldn't put it past Mrs. Clinton's campaign. They've already sunk pretty low. I wouldn't put this past them. She will do anything to win. We saw that in 2008.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)Pretty weak.
oasis
(49,386 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)Germany..............
6chars
(3,967 posts)either people have good values or they don't
basselope
(2,565 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)When you can't discuss issues because your candidate's positions are a mixture of neo-lib policies and me too! sound bites you resort to attacking the other guy's supporters.
Hillary failed miserably in the debate last night?
LOOK!
Agony
(2,605 posts)not is a good way
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)While fomenting righteous indignation about the contents of the article, they just proved the author's point.
SheenaR
(2,052 posts)mmonk
(52,589 posts)and sold our lives down a river and then lie about it cannot judge the lives they screwed.