2016 Postmortem
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http://www.mediaite.com/tv/gonna-be-the-death-of-liberals-maher-tells-bernie-hillary-fans-to-quit-fighting/Bill Maher ended his show tonight by tearing into Bernie Sanders fans and Hillary Clintons attack dogs for turning on each other instead of the supervillain leading the race in the other party.
He told the #BernieOrBust people to suck it up and support Clinton if shes the nominee, while ripping into Clintons people for saying that in a race with Donald Trump, the real sexist here is Sanders. Meanwhile, #BlackLivesMatter is attacking them both for not being black enough while Trump gets five stars from the KKK.
Maher called Republicans the real enemies and declared, This is gonna be the death of liberals. This nitpick intramural attacking of friends for insufficient purity, compulsively cleaning up a little corner of the room while there are giant piles of shit everywhere else!
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Skwmom
(12,685 posts)position can easily lecture others.
Maintaining the status quo will hardly affect Maher.
They have been playing the Democrats against the Republicans for decades as they've raided the U.S. Treasury and turned our democracy into an oligarchy.
IllinoisLabour
(86 posts)Donald Trump isn't any kind of supervillain. He's just a xenophobic corporate liberal who's pretending to be a xenophobic corporate conservative. I mean, he changed half of his stances on the issues on the day he declared his candidacy and probably couldn't name more than five characters from the Bible. In the unlikely event that he's elected, that guy is going to nominate judges much like the ones we already have; he's really pro-choice and doesn't care about gay marriage. He's to the left of McCain and Vanilla Romney. Sure, he has a repugnant personality, but so did Dubya. The real supervillain is Ted Cruz.
As for supporting Hillary...no thanks. I'm not actually a democrat, let alone a right-leaning one. I'm just a lefty who's been taken for granted for a long time and done with it. Every four years I have to hear "yeah, our guy kind of sucks, but the other guy is a real monster." If Sanders loses the primary process, I'm all in for Jill Stein this time.
I'm done voting for "free" trade candidates; they've ruined our country.
Hopefully, both parties fracture and we end up with four parties having a realistic chance for the next election:
1. Democrats (left-leaning centrists who worship money)
2. Republicans (right-leaning centrists who worship money)
3. Labour/Green type of party
4. Insane Christian theocrat party
The death of the current American political system cant come fast enough for me.
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)Sanders and Hillary are not just TV show hosts who use flippant remarks to get an audience.
TheFarS1de
(1,017 posts)but this time it was a swing and a miss . Why worry about the opposition when we have the much better candidate in Sanders .
Also he forgot a lot of the #BernieorBust are either independents or moderate republicans who are looking for options .
in the past few years has shown himself to be a real fraud. The status quo is fine with him. Even after all these years of ranting and raving. Here comes along a real candidate in Bernie who represents 100% of what Bill Maher has supposedley believed in all these years. But does he have the guts to stand up for those said beliefs? No! He is too comfortable, he is not suffering from low wages, lack of health insurance, student debt. Actually all he talks about the environment, which is of course important, but it does not alone define what it means to be a democrat. He does talk about marijuana, but that is it. He rarely ever talks about jobs or healthcare. He is nothing but a limousine liberal.
He has gone off the deep end talking about conspiracy in vaccines, among other things. When Bush was in office he often complained about how fear is being used and how the public gives into fear. But the past several years he has been the one who is living in fear. He is for the surveillance state for God's sake! He thinks that a muslim terrorist group will detonate a nuclear weapon in the US. He sounds like Bush.
He is not gonna risk his so called cozy relationship with the political elite. The funny thing is he thinks he is apart of it and his words are listened to by the democratic elite. But what does it say that Obama will not even give him an interview after years of Maher practically begging him for one. He just thinks he is important. He has so much hate for republicans he is willing to back a HRC who we all know if bought and paid for. But hey, what does he care, he lives comfortably.
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)Maher is right, this infighting is absurd.
Just know that we as a party are close to wrapping the nomination. It's looks as if Hillary has already locked up half of the delegates she needs for the nomination. After March 15th, she's going to have a whole lot more. Very soon here on DU the rhetoric is going to change, otherwise people are going to get the boot.
I think that day is quickly approaching, in a very short period of time there will be no mathematical way for anyone else other than Hillary to win the nomination.
I think debate is a good thing, but what's happening on DU is not about debate-it's an out right assault on the forthcoming obvious democratic nominee and it's disgusting. I like Sander's, so I can honestly say if the tables were reversed I would still agree.
Best to you my friend!
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Someone should tell him that. He obviously needs to know.
BeyondGeography
(39,370 posts)Well said. We have a lot of corner cleaners here.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Last edited Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:52 AM - Edit history (1)
My original comment was pretty harsh on Bill, because there have been times on his show when he was harsh on liberals.
But honestly, this wasn't that harsh and it was done with humor.
MrWendel
(1,881 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Actual policy issues, is gonna stop coming from camp HRC?
I will not, as they say, hold my breath.
Seems the Hillary people "right on"-ing this deal skipped that part.
I'll support her if shes the nominee. He's right that if nominated we need her to win. No argument there.
She is, of course, not the nominee yet, and there is no evidence that a vigorous primary hurts our GE chances.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I always enjoy his monologue, his special guest, his half-time guest, his comedy-bit, and the "New Rules" segment ... but most of the time, the people that are chosen to be on his panel just drive me up the wall!
About every other episode, I'll click the FF button on the remote to skip past the GOP guests, crosstalk, arguments and other idiocy.