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kennetha

(3,666 posts)
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:57 PM Mar 2016

Hillary's new line on Bernie on the Auto Bailout (Youngstown Ohio)

.....drum roll.....

My opponent voted for it, before he voted against it.

"There are some people supporting my opponent, who apparently, just can stand the truth. But I'm going to tell the truth. He voted against the money that bailed out the auto industry."


Go get him Hillary!

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Hillary's new line on Bernie on the Auto Bailout (Youngstown Ohio) (Original Post) kennetha Mar 2016 OP
You seem proud. madfloridian Mar 2016 #1
speaking truth to denial kennetha Mar 2016 #2
That would be funny...if it weren't so ironic. cyberswede Mar 2016 #3
speaking of speaking truth... ish of the hammer Mar 2016 #5
The utter insistence of her and her supporters on this bald-faced lie is getting to me. madfloridian Mar 2016 #9
I'm increasingly inspired by those who are taking a stand Voice for Peace Mar 2016 #32
Well, you can sort of compare it to boiling frogs... madfloridian Mar 2016 #33
Of course he is. TM99 Mar 2016 #4
She is TRIPLING down on that? Ruby the Liberal Mar 2016 #6
but it worked so well in Michigan that she had a 99% chance of winning GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #14
It is as if she and her team believe that only college kids use the internet & and blue-collar Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #19
I smell desperation! n/t marew Mar 2016 #29
Doubling down on a bad strategy. thesquanderer Mar 2016 #7
She is running such a 1990's campaign.....open her mouth, and lies just.... Joe the Revelator Mar 2016 #8
Another day. Another lie. Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #10
K'n'R baby ucrdem Mar 2016 #11
The best I can say is SheenaR Mar 2016 #12
Go get him with lies, half truths, inuendo and vitriol Hillary! AgingAmerican Mar 2016 #13
The wheels are coming off. earthside Mar 2016 #15
FORBES: "Clinton's Charge That Sanders Did Not Support Auto Rescue Is Wrong" cyberswede Mar 2016 #16
When you support Hillary's lies like this, it makes you a liar too. Take a bow. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #17
How about that! She is using the same line Rove used against Kerry in 2004 jillan Mar 2016 #18
Sometimes I wonder if Rove is working for her campaign. QC Mar 2016 #20
Ahyup. Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #21
That wasn't Roves line kennetha Mar 2016 #26
And Karl Rove used it as part of the swiftboating of John Kerry. jillan Mar 2016 #27
Hillary is a compulsive liar jfern Mar 2016 #22
Pathetic DefenseLawyer Mar 2016 #23
Most people saw the Kerry swift boating, the Rove racial smears as vile, not inspirational. Carlo Marx Mar 2016 #24
It gets easier and easier to see who the smart people are voting for pdsimdars Mar 2016 #25
Others have taken note kennetha Mar 2016 #28
Hmm this is excatly what Trump does Gwhittey Mar 2016 #30
This is not how a campaign should be run casperthegm Mar 2016 #31

ish of the hammer

(444 posts)
5. speaking of speaking truth...
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:02 PM
Mar 2016

the reagans and hiv/aids. and where WAS Sanders in 1993 during the health care fight Clinton ran from?

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
9. The utter insistence of her and her supporters on this bald-faced lie is getting to me.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:05 PM
Mar 2016

I started this campaign perfectly willing to vote for her if she were the nominee. It never occurred to me it would be any other way.

What I have seen of her campaign, the racism, the pitting of races against each other, the faux attacks that take Bernie's strongest points and use them against him by false innuendos....it is all building up inside me.

I have never seen our party acting so badly. DWS is shutting at least half of us who are long-time Democrats because of her blatant support for Hillary.

The rules REQUIRE her to be neutral, but no on gives a damn about the fact she is not.

I have not decided yet what my final vote will be, but right now I am tired of being threatened. I have never voted anything but Democratic, and I am sick of the attacks.

So you go ahead with your attacks and be proud of her lies. It's not a very good idea.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
32. I'm increasingly inspired by those who are taking a stand
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 11:28 PM
Mar 2016

Committing to integrity, not voting from fear.
If not now, when?

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
33. Well, you can sort of compare it to boiling frogs...
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 01:02 AM
Mar 2016

If the water starts out cold they adapt...until they reach that point of no return.



Then...it's time to adapt or jump out of that boiling pot.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
14. but it worked so well in Michigan that she had a 99% chance of winning
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:20 PM
Mar 2016
According to our final polls-plus forecast, Hillary Clinton had a greater than 99% chance of winning the Michigan primary.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/michigan-democratic/

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
19. It is as if she and her team believe that only college kids use the internet & and blue-collar
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:35 PM
Mar 2016

workers are social media troglodytes and have no option but to slurp whatever comes out of her mouth.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
7. Doubling down on a bad strategy.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:04 PM
Mar 2016

Nobody is going to believe that Sanders isn't on the side of union workers.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
12. The best I can say is
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:07 PM
Mar 2016

You have as much integrity as your candidate. So I guess you will take that as a compliment

earthside

(6,960 posts)
15. The wheels are coming off.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:20 PM
Mar 2016

As she gets caught in one deception and exaggeration after another ... the more desperate she gets and the more outrageous become the prevarications.

Hillary Clinton is not one of us.
Hillary Clinton is a hackneyed, old fashioned machine politician.

Thank goodness we have a genuinely progressive alternative.


Clinton's Charge That Sanders Did Not Support Auto Rescue Is Wrong
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidkiley5/2016/03/07/clintons-charges-that-sanders-did-not-support-auto-rescue-is-wrong/#1019a6ac582b

This Is Why Hillary Clinton's Comments About Nancy Reagan Still Matter
Her remarks on the late first lady's legacy on HIV and AIDS can't be forgotten.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-nancy-reagan-aids_us_56e44622e4b0860f99d93d02





cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
16. FORBES: "Clinton's Charge That Sanders Did Not Support Auto Rescue Is Wrong"
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:30 PM
Mar 2016
Secretary Clinton is chastising Sanders in the Motor State for not voting for the bill that created the funding for an auto bailout. Except, it wasn’t known that the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) bill, designed to bail out Wall Street banks from their subprime mortgage loan debacle that was crashing the economy, would be used to rescue the auto industry at the time Senators Sanders and Clinton voted on it. Clinton voted yay. Sanders voted nay. It was President Bush who signed the bill into law.

Later, in December 2008, the Senate took up a separate bill that would have provided rescue funds specifically for the auto industry. That bill failed to get the 60-vote filibuster-proof minimum when Republicans balked at saving General Motors GM +1.43%, Ford and Chrysler, in large part because they wanted to use the occasion to try and destroy the United Auto Workers union, which stood to benefit from a bailout by having their healthcare fund and pensions protected, and its interests prioritized over bond holders. Both Clinton and Sanders voted for this bill.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidkiley5/2016/03/07/clintons-charges-that-sanders-did-not-support-auto-rescue-is-wrong/#38ec4069582b

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
21. Ahyup.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:37 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary:

I voted for the Iraq war before I regretted it.
I supported NAFTA before I regretted it.
I lobbied for the crime bill before I regretted it.
I lobbied for TPP before I regretted it.
I lobbied for welfare reform… oh wait, I don't regret that yet.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
23. Pathetic
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:42 PM
Mar 2016

Lying about Sanders is bad enough, but then calling him a liar for denying your lie? That's staightup Karl Rove shit right there.

 

Carlo Marx

(98 posts)
24. Most people saw the Kerry swift boating, the Rove racial smears as vile, not inspirational.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:51 PM
Mar 2016

The Clintons are ground breakers in dirty politics. If Hillary wasn't so powerful it would be amusing to watch the incompetence and the embarrassingly detached behavior.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
25. It gets easier and easier to see who the smart people are voting for
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:54 PM
Mar 2016

you know, the ones who can follow a thought and are interested in the truth.

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
30. Hmm this is excatly what Trump does
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 11:11 PM
Mar 2016

He lies and then double down on it. She must think Dems are as gullible as the Republicans. Well it worked on OP so, but the OP was already a koolaide drinker

casperthegm

(643 posts)
31. This is not how a campaign should be run
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 11:15 PM
Mar 2016

This should never be excused away as "politics as usual." Lies are not ok. Yes, it's great that every time she does it Bernie's campaign is able to quickly refute it. Sometimes with comical pictures. It's kind of a combination of pathetic/funny. But HRC and her supporters have an awful lot of nerve if they expect us to support her if she wins the nomination. This is no way to run a campaign.

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