A new meme from the Hillary supporters

[passiveporcupine]

And again, a copycat meme. Instead of @whichHillary, it's now "Will the real Bernie please stand up".

So a few of the comments he made in the past are shaking up the Hillary supporters, and their goal is to say he's NOT a democrat, he's a socialist (or do they mean a communist?). Well guess what. I've been a dem my whole life, and if he's not a dem, neither am I because I stand with Bernie. But...the democratic party left me, I did not leave it. This information about Bernie is not new to anyone who knows Bernie and what he stands for. After reading what a proud Hillary supporter is in favor of just yesterday, I guess this is my chance to say this is what I'm in favor of.

Hillary supporters have conveniently posted part of his comments while leaving out the context that explains it.

Bernie says in a local interview that he despises Democrats, and that a JFK speech once made him sick. He also cracked on Jesse Jackson and Walter Mondale

Well, yes, he did say a speech from President Kennedy made him nauseous...but here is the context:

Vermont senator and Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders once said that he was “physically nauseated” by a speech made by President John F. Kennedy when Sanders was a young man, because Kennedy’s “hatred for the Cuban Revolution […] was so strong.”

And he said not nice things about Jesse Jackson. Here is what he said:

he also criticized Jesse Jackson’s decision to try and affect change by “working within the Democratic party”

Sanders explained the crucial difference between himself and Jesse Jackson: “‘Jesse believes that serious social change is possible within the Democratic Party. I don’t.’”

Oh, Ouch, that hurt!

Then Mondale:

“When I’d go around talking about Walter Mondale I would say that if elected president, I felt, Walter Mondale was going to be a pretty bad president,” explained Sanders. “Now sometimes you may have to make painful decisions.”

“If you go around saying that Mondale would be a great president, you would be a liar and a hypocrite,” concluded Sanders. “That is not what I was saying.”

And about the party:

Sanders lambasted “the corporate-controlled Democratic and Republican parties,” and praised the National Organization of Women “for supporting the need for a progressive third party in this country.”

Well, it turns out he's right. We need a progressive party...just not a third party, which can't get enough votes to win. The Democratic party has become just a slightly different version of the Republican party, because they are both establishment. And lately the Democratic party is looking more and more republican all the time, while the republican party has completely lost it's mind.

That's why he's running for president today. He wants to shake up the status quo and start a revolution against establishment policies. He is doing it as a "Democrat" only for the purpose of not letting the vote be split by a third party, resulting in a republican win, because he would still rather a democrat win than a republican, if he fails to pull this off. As much as he believes they both operate the same way, he still sides with Democrats on liberal and progressive issues, which is why he votes with them. He has stronger true Democratic values than the Dem party of today...that is for sure. He's a New Dealer like FDR. He has always called himself a democratic socialist, not a democrat, because the democrats are establishment politics, which he is against (and always has been)...and they are bought and paid for, just like Republicans. But, he backs the values of Democrats. At least the more progressive democrats.

He wants to get off this crazy merry-go-round, and that is why so many people (democrats, independents, and even republicans) are willing to vote for him.

We are all tired of establishment politics that work for the 1% and are supposed to trickle down to the rest of us. But they don't and the divide has been getting wider every year. The incremental changes that Democrats like Hillary are willing to work for, are just not cutting it any more. We are losing our country. We are losing our economic viability. We are losing our middle class...it's slip sliding away. We've long since lost too many of our jobs. We have a health care system that only works for the very poor or very wealthy, not the middle.

So look for this @whichBernie meme to start popping up all over. Or they will call it something something socialist or communist. I don't think they've fixed on a name for it yet. "Will the real Bernie please stand up" is a bit too long.

If you want to read the article that is feeding this, please do...read it all and then consider if you really want to see change happening from within the party as usual (which means continuing to slide backwards economically), or if you want to see the shakeup that Bernie is pushing for.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ilanbenmeir/bernie-sanders-despised-democrats-in-1980s-said-a-jfk-speech#.yogAVnDgl

[jillan]

1. More Rovian tactics from the Hill campaign. Cherry pick one sentence out of a paragraph.

Where has been Rove these days? I'm beginning to wonder.

[passiveporcupine]

2. I wanted to clarify the Mondale startement

In the link they post some news clippings and I can only read a couple of them, but in the last one shown, I got this:

Gadfly:
How do you counter the argument that by participating in the electoral politics, you are legitimizing the system?

Sanders:
You used the example before about my campaigning for Mondale, which in fact was a very difficult thing to do. So do you know what you do? When I'd go around talking about Walter Mondale I would say that if elected president, I felt, Walter Mondale was going to be a pretty bad president. But I was doing this because I am concerned about nuclear war and I am concerned about the destruction of the people of Nicaragua. And that is why at that moment I explained that I thought Mondale would be superior to Reagan.

[Fearless]

3. Same old slime.

[ebayfool]

4. It's already oozing here. A blatant attempt to divert from Clinton's latest FUBAR, imo.

The memes are pretty predictable in their timing.

[passiveporcupine]

5. I have to agree with you on that.

[highprincipleswork]

6. I want a shake-up, and I want Bernie, and I'm a lifelong Democrat for over 45 years.

[cui bono]

7. I have noticed a pattern of Hillary supporters taking things out of context.

I wish the ethical and principled Hillary supporters would be more vocal. It's getting so bad with the vocal ones it's hard to tell what site they think they are posting on. If they weren't supporting Hillary the admins would have tombstoned most of them by now.

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[pdsimdars]

8. I would love to have them explain their hypocrisy

Democrats have always detested the Rovian tactics of lying and selectively picking and then twisting something inside out to smear their opponent. And yet, this is what the Clinton campaign does every day.
I am so proud to be associated with a candidate who does not do this. Straight up honesty and integrity. If he doesn't win (and I am pretty sure he will prevail), at least I'm clear at the end of the process.
If people hate the politics in this country then what are they doing?
Bernie is showing it can be done without the billionaires and without the lies.
Hillary is same old dirty business as usual politics. Which shows she will not come up with any new direction or new solutions because she is showing us as clear as can be that she is just another dirty politician.
Go Bernie.

[Bluenorthwest]

10. The are freaked out because Hillary said such crazed things about Reagan and AIDS after they have

spent months attacking Bernie's every single word as if he'd said he eats puppies. Now they are owners of 'Ronald and Nancy Reagan were AIDS champions'. That's what they have to defend. So they panic when they should simply be switching to the candidate who has not spent years of her life opposing equality, praising anti gay right wingers and padding her own wallet.