Police Frustrated with Clinton Campaign Over Unpaid Bills

[UglyGreed]

MARSHALLTOWN, Iowa -- The Clinton campaign says as soon as they receive an invoice, they'll pay the Des Moines Police Department for the services they provided at the Katy Perry concert last October. City Hall provided us a copy of the invoice that has already been sent. The invoice is dated November 19, 2015. The bill is nearly $1,800.

The Marshalltown Police Department is dealing with the same problem. “We have requested reimbursement from the Clinton campaign. We haven`t received that payment yet,” said Marshalltown Police Chief Michael Tupper.

Former President Bill Clinton was in Marshalltown on January 15, and he requested and received security assistance from the police. The Marshalltown Police Department has not been paid for the services they provided that day.

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton held a much larger campaign event in Marshalltown on January 26. On February 3, Chief Tupper sent a letter to the Clinton campaign, detailing the charges (of both her event and her husband’s) and asking to be paid. Tupper says he hasn't received a response, so he sent out another letter today. The bill is nearly $2,700.

“I think the most frustrating part is these events cost a lot of money for our communities and it’s not just law enforcement that’s impacted by these events, but they’re very costly, especially for a small town like Marshalltown, (with) a small police force. They distract us from the other duties of the day and we`re happy to help out, but we don`t have unlimited financial resources that can cover all these security requests,” said Tupper.

http://whotv.com/2016/03/11/police-frustrated-with-clinton-campaign-over-unpaid-bills/

[amborin]

1. Clinton campaign did this in '08, too; total mismanagement & non-payments

[CountAllVotes]

2. Total mismanagement & non-payments

How very "presidential" NOT!!

& recommend!!

[pdsimdars]

5. And very "entitled" --- yes

[PatrynXX]

42. yeah

ie vote her way and we go broke and Dems get blamed for it. I don't think so. nevermind I have Grand Aunts, uncles and my last Grandma lives at the VA there yeah she can pay herself but not a measly $3000 X_X (measly according to her paycheck) yes some years I'd be lucky to make that much . on my parents dime but still. right now I just get room, sometimes I'll take the food but I'm really trying to diet X_X and at their age so should they but I'm not telling them what to do in their own house

[UglyGreed]

3. Wonder if it will

affect Hillary's credit report????

[roguevalley]

45. win, uglygreed. ten kinds of win

[newthinking]

18. I think this could be any campaign.

$1,800 is certainly not worth getting a story about. And I would imagine that all campaigns struggle to keep on top of all the various line items to juggle.

[Kittycat]

49. It is in small towns with struggling budgets

I just have to say, there are villages all over IL, MI, OH and many more states dealing with some serious austerity cuts. Hell, our state doesn't even have a budget, so the cuts are so damaging to local economies, that it's reached the point of no return for some support services. if $1800 isn't a big deal to you, then why don't you bail Clinton out? Because if tax payers have to pick it up, I can assure you, that will be made very clear in every local election for the next 4 years.

[SusanCalvin]

50. It is if the city needs it. nt

[roguevalley]

44. you can drain a town badly doing this. Bernie is the only one who pays the bills at the moment or at

all

[Else You Are Mad]

4. Imagine

... if you had an overdue bill from a local government that you didn't pay. You would have a warrant out for your arrest within minutes of when it became past due.

If I remember correctly, Sanders was the only campaign that paid his bills due and owing to a town in Iowa that every campaign went to.

[pdsimdars]

6. Yes, Sanders is the ONLY candidate who paid these bills. What a stand up guy!

Completely distinct from all those other sleaze-ball freeloaders.

[valerief]

16. Because Bernie recognizes non-1%ers as human beings, not pawns. nt

[SCantiGOP]

32. Else you are mad:

No, actually, no. You don't get a "warrant for your arrest minutes" after a local government bill comes due. Eventually, after several attempts to collect the bill (a fine for a criminal matter would be different), they have the right to file a civil action to collect the debt.

[Else You Are Mad]

38. it depends on the jurisdiction & what the fee is for actually.

[SCantiGOP]

41. No it doesn't

[Mother Of Four]

47. What they are discussing is a fee for SERVICES RENDERED-

Hubby's been LEO in one form or another for 32 + years. He has done a more than a few of these type events. They most certainly do NOT issue a warrant for arrest on the spot as soon as it comes past due.

If you're talking dodging bail etc, that's not a fee for services rendered. And not even remotely germane to what they are discussing.

[Else You Are Mad]

56. For example:

In my state, if you have a past due fee for services rendered from a municipality that goes unpaid, a warrant can be issued. For example, the owner of an abandoned property whose upkeep has been taken care of by the municipality can issue a warrant the arrest of the owner if they don't pay for the services. E.g., lawn mowing, tree removal etc. That said, I was being hyperbolic when I said a warrant would immediately be issued.

But the rules vary not only state by state, but municipality to municipality.

[Mother Of Four]

62. Thank you for saying that you were exaggerating

I'm very well aware that the laws vary.

[Scootaloo]

52. Scanti is correct

Unpaid bills are not a criminal offense. All that happens is that your bill keeps getting higher. Yoyu will eventually face litigation, but it's not an 'arrest and go to jail" sort of thing.

[Else You Are Mad]

60. Not necessarily.

Ignoring a municipal fee can result in a summons to appear before in municipal court and if such is ignored that can result in a warrant. Again, it varies on the facts of the case & jurisdiction. Regardless, I was being hyperbolic in my original post.

[SCantiGOP]

66. OK, last response to you

What you just described would be a bench warrant, which is a result of not showing up in court when ordered to.
You cannot issue an arrest warrant for an unpaid fee - that is a civil matter.

Feel free to say again that you weren't wrong; I'm through with this.

[Gwhittey]

65. They can arrest you for depts.

http://abc13.com/news/man-arrested-by-us-marshals-for-outstanding-student-loan/1203617/

[Vinca]

7. It must be time for the Clinton campaign to send an armored car over to Wall Street.

Nobody likes a deadbeat, Hillary.

[UglyGreed]

8. A rich deadbeat none

the less.....

[global1]

9. I Guess She'll Have To Deliver Another Speech To Goldman Sachs....

to pay her bills.

[CountAllVotes]

10. Good plan!

Don't give her too many ideas except perhaps give her the real info. required and maybe she'll Feel The Bern soon!

[Ruby the Liberal]

11. Guessing campaign staff is being paid?

And media buys - those bills are probably taken care of as well.

[djean111]

12. One of my cousins is an interior designer.

She did business with a woman who is a fabric designer and manufacturer. Small shop.
This woman got a contract with a Trump hotel to provide fabric for a remodel - a lot of fabric. She had submitted a bid, the Trump people accepted it, there was a contract.

After the remodeling was done, no criticism of the fabric - the Trump people told her they would only pay her half of the agreed-upon amount, and that she should consider herself fortunate to be able to say she provided the fabric for a Trump hotel.

I get the same sense of entitlement from the Clintons.

[amborin]

13. horrible, and yes, they have that same sense of entitlement

[UglyGreed]

14. I know the feeling

before I became disabled this very thing happened to me a few times. On a much smaller scale of course but I'm sure the feeling of being "conned" is the same no matter the amount. The people that did this to me were upper middle class to very well off. They would of not had a problem paying the amount we agreed on.

[SheilaT]

34. Did she sue him?

Depending on the amount of money, it might have been a good small claims court thing.

[djean111]

43. I am not sure. My cousin said the attitude was that Trump had people on payroll to deal with

this sort of thing, like insurance companies do. That this was the way Trump does business.
I honestly don't know what the outcome was - it is the casual entitlement that shocked me - Trump's people had no regard for what would happen to a very small business if it was not paid in full or on time.

He did an entirely different thing down here in Tampa - he required really big deposits for a "Trump Towers" condo to be built , but the recession hit and the project was cancelled. No one got any money back, and it turns out that all he really lent to the project was the name.

[dana_b]

76. oh i hope that she did

entitled talking yam.

[Ino]

15. She'll pay her bills...

when everybody else who has ever owed anything in the history of the world pays their bills.

Why is SHE being singled out? SEXISM!

[George II]

17. Hillary Clinton will still win the Democratic nomination and be elected President. OPs like this...

.....won't have any effect on her victories.

[Gene Debs]

21. So you'll address her as "Madame Deadbeat"? You sound like there's nothing at all wrong

with the Clinton campaign stiffing local law enforcement agencies.

[George II]

25. We have only one side of the story, don't we?

And no, I'll address her as Madam President.

[Gene Debs]

31. They have an unpaid bill. What else do you need? Do you think they're making up some kind of

false charge of non-payment against the Clinton campaign? What on earth would be the point of that? If Clinton paid the bill, there should be an easily verifiable paper trail. This stuff is all very easy to corroborate.

[George II]

33. We only have one side of the story.

[cherokeeprogressive]

70. Yup. The side of the story told by an unpaid invoice for services rendered.

[Gene Debs]

84. You're a robot. Ignore list for you.

[Divernan]

82. We have a pattern of Clinton dead-beatery from 2008 campaign

[Logical]

78. Still, nice to expose her behavior. nt

[MisterP]

19. Clinton: "whadda they gonna do, call the cops?"

[PADemD]

20. Cash in advance n/t

[demwing]

22. I'M REALLY NOT FUCKING KIDDING MADDIE!

PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, SEND ME A DAMNED DOLLAR NOW!!!

[Action_Patrol]

27. That's in the Capitol and they do that for every dignitary escort.

The more high profile, the bigger the escort committee.

[demwing]

67. Really? thought this was Hillary really getting arrested.

Since she looks so sad, and is wearing handcuffs and all...


FFS, do I really have to explain that this is a joke?

[Action_Patrol]

73. Considering the idiocy that usually crops

Up in this forum? Yeah, I guess you do.

[Ivan Kaputski]

80. We can hope can't we?

[Ferd Berfel]

72. LOL Frog marched for non-payment of campaign debts

Hell, There goes the deficit....

[KPN]

24. Bernie supporter here ... but staff happens folks!

We got bigger fish to fry.

[Le Taz Hot]

29. Bernie paid his bill.

Next excuse . . .

[MissDeeds]

46. Bigger fish to fry?

Tell that to the working men and women who live paycheck to paycheck. They lived up to their part of of the deal, the HRC campaign didn't.

This is a pattern with her campaign. It happened last time. So much for engendering the confidence of the 99%.

[Kittycat]

55. So much for caring about the working class

Officers, no less. Winning them over, one default at a time.

[KPN]

87. You make a point there.

Hopefully, all those people are getting paid fully and on time. My point was picking at every little mistake isn't going to win Bernie a lot of votes. And it strikes me that this is probably just a mistake at this point. If it happens again, and again from here out then obviously I am wrong about that as it then would indicate a low level of regard and care for her worker bees. I do get and appreciate your point ... especially given her 2008 campaign issues. My recollection is her campaign ended up in debt -- she's not in that position by a long shot right now ... so it seems like it's probably just a staff mistake. In no way did I mean to minimize the importance of living up to her obligations, particularly to those she hires to staff out her campaign.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

26. Send all bills certified, requiring a signature, so there's proof they're getting to the campaign

and then being ignored.

[PatrickforO]

28. Clinton did this in 08 as well.

When you don't pay your bills for stuff like this, it is the working people who end up suffering. Trump is the same way - every time he's been 'smart enough' to go bankrupt, he's come out smelling like a rose, but hundreds, thousands of workers ended up getting screwed.

It's time to nominate and elect a candidate who REALLY cares about working people.

Bernie Sanders.

[zentrum]

30. Hillary could pay

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…….this out of her 32M personal fortune (80M total between both Clintons) and not even notice it.

$2,700 is so paltry for a multimillionaire, that it equals just one day of a vacation—with massage, dinner and wine complete.

[kgnu_fan]

35. oh, no.... they have too money to think about small non-payment....

[UglyGreed]

37. Rich people problems

hate when that happens.....

[SheilaT]

36. So do you suppose President Sanders will ask

Democrats to help her retire her campaign debt, as President Obama did eight years ago?

[UglyGreed]

40. I hope Bernie

tells them to ask Blankfein for a few more speaking gigs.....

[highprincipleswork]

39. Didn't this happen before? You know it did. Unfortunate Hillary habits on the rise.

[greiner3]

48. So like it was rumored about Christie's endorsement of Trump

Was Trumps's paying his campaign debts maybe Hillary doesn't have all that much cash and will endorse Donald after she loses the nomination

[jillan]

51. She'll pay her bills when everyone else does.

[UglyGreed]

53. Well most people are having trouble

these days so I can understand the delay.......

[Karma13612]

54. Typical crap. The richer they are, the less they feel obligated to pay their

"small" debts.

Those debts might be small to the millionaires, but not to individuals in the 99% or small town police departments.

Wish we Bernie supporters could come up with the cash, pay those two bills and then make it public that we did it cause we are all the "99%".

Not Me, US

[Ruby the Liberal]

59. The clarion call to help retire her campaign debt will come out late summer

just like it did with her 2008 debt after she mismanaged those funds.

[Karma13612]

63. yup, right on cue. and I say this time, No way, no way, no way

She shoulda learned from 8 years ago.

Let her and hubbie do a few more speaking engagements.

[Divernan]

85. She ended '08 campaign $25 MILLION IN DEBT.

[AgerolanAmerican]

57. Sorry, small town Iowa

you're not on the list of things that Goldman Sachs is willing to pay for.

[JeaneRaye]

58. Speech money.

Seems like she could use some of the money she got from making speeches and come clean on her debts.... wasn't it something like $250,000 per speech?

[Autumn]

61. Send me a dollar Maddie, I'm not kidding

[Divernan]

86. Next up:"Send me a goddamned penny! You can afford a goddamned penny!"

And send it by return mail! If you don't send me your goddamned penny by return mail (and put your own damned stamp on it so I can save on the postage!), I'll make Bill stand at the corner of K Street and New York Avenue, shaking a goddamned can at passersby. Is that what you want to make me do?"

When I count up all the snail mail begging letters from her campaign, along with the postage paid return envelopes, which I return sans any contribution, she's spent well over a dollar contacting me. And I'm another person who has never contributed to the DNC, the DSCC, or other national or state wide Democratic oranizations - I always send my contributions directly to the candidates I back.

I do contribute to Bernie Sanders' campaign on an automatic monthly schedule, with occasional extra donations, so his people have my address on file.

I didn't start getting all these mail solicitations from Hillary until after the firewall breach.

[democrattotheend]

64. Didn't she have problems paying vendors on time in 2008 as well?

I remember feeling that if she had this much trouble managing finances on the campaign how could she be trusted with the federal budget?

I would have thought she would have made sure to hire better people this time to avoid this kind of stupid mistake.

[Divernan]

83. The grifter didn't pay them until 2012-to clear books for her current campaign.

Between 2008 and 2012, she shit on them. However, in 2010 she came up with +$3 million for Chelsea's royal wedding.

Well, let's put it this way, she incurred $3million of expenses for that wedding. Whether she actually paid them is anyone's guess.

[Gwhittey]

68. She said thank you to each one

that is worth at least a few $100 each, he words are worth a ton.

[BuelahWitch]

69. This needs a kickin'! nt

[nc4bo]

71. Services were provided, cut a damn check ffs.

This is really stupid behavior by the HRC campaign.

Give the damn invoice a priority status and pay it immediately, they won't hear any complaints and will avoid any negative press.

[MrMickeysMom]

74. Have Hillary give a one minute speech to Goldman Sachs...

That ought to cover it!

[Ivan Kaputski]

79. ^^^^^this^^^^^

[BernieforPres2016]

75. These little people should be grateful that Hillary didn't bill them.

Wall Street firms pay $225,000 to hear Hillary speak for an hour.

[Ivan Kaputski]

77. Deja vu from 2008 when she didn't pay the bills.

[Divernan]

81. Her '08 campaign stiffed 500 vendors/small businesses till 2012!

She ended her 2008 campaign over $TWENTY THREE MILLION IN DEBT!
Didn't pay it off until 4 years later, and then only because she made the decision to run for president and needed to build up her campaign warchest. In the interim (2010), Chelsea had a $3 million dollar wedding - wonder how many of those vendors got stiffed. The Clintons are deadbeat grifters extraordinaire.

This time around, WHEN she loses, she'll have no incentive to pay off campaign debts, other than being dragged to small claims courts - not a simple thing to do for some small businessman/vendor in, say, Iowa or Nevada - having to serve her w/notice of suit in New York state.

Of that 23 million, 13 million was money she'd lent the campaign herself & 12 million was owed to others.

I've posted about this several times on DU, and have always concluded with saying that anyone providing goods or personal service to the Clintons in this campaign better get their money up front.

[farleftlib]

88. Two words:

No Class!