Trump and Clinton - - - another similarity

[pdsimdars]

I have joked many times about how Hillary and Trump are peas in a pod regarding their lies.

This past week there were all those BIG lies. Segami had the OP about the 6 big lies in only 7 days.

We have all seen the continuing story of what can Trump say or do that will FINALLY be too far. And it hasn't happened yet.

Here is a big frustration many Bernie supporters have, what will Clinton say or do that will be a bridge too far?

There's all the lies and distortions and swift boating of Bernie. Doesn't even register to her supporters . . lies about Bernie don't matter. Especially those laughingly funny ones like "where was Bernie" in 1993 when Hillary was working on health care? And he was standing right behind her and even got a signed note from her thanking him.

They have no problems with that either.

Then came the death squads -- Honduras and the Lybian mess. Apparently rivers of innocent blood don't make any difference.

And now, the whole "Reagans and AIDS conversation". The more you look into that one, the uglier it is.

JUST LIKE TRUMP, WHAT WILL IT TAKE FOR HER SUPPORTERS TO HAVE PAUSE???

[hobbit709]

1. The acolytes of The Anointed One believe she can do no wrong.

and the rest of us need to quit believing our lying eyes and ears.

[onehandle]

2. 'Sanders’ candidacy is in many ways more like that of Donald Trump than Clinton'

Sanders’ candidacy is in many ways more like that of Donald Trump than Clinton – an appeal to emotion that envisions a revolution rather than evolution. “It is too late for establishment politics,” Sanders said in the Flint, Michigan, debate. Just as some voters might choose to believe that Trump has a brilliant, secret plan to Make America Great Again, for others, Sanders’ dream of free access to health care and a college education is seductive.

But U.S. presidents are not dictators and don’t have the power to make most changes singlehandedly, and any president must have the patience to work with and through Congress. That inconvenient fact makes many of Sanders’ campaign promises political nonstarters in addition to being unwise, extremist policy proposals. President Obama barely got the Affordable Care Act enacted, and it remains a Republican target. Who seriously thinks Sanders is going to be able to fold the entire health care system – 17.5 percent of the United States’ gross domestic product – into Medicare?

America needs leaders with expertise in the art of the possible rather than the gift of glib, empty promises.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/opinion/contributors/2016/03/10/endorsement-clinton-understands-art-possible/81586752/

[pdsimdars]

4. Distorted thinking at best

EVERY other advanced nation in the WORLD seems to be able to do single payer. Are we so stupid that we can't figure it out? According to Hillary, we will never be able to have single payer. Does that mean she thinks we are the most stupid modern nation?

We have already HAD tuition free college. I think it was Thomas Jefferson who started the first land grant colleges. They had free college in California until Reagan stopped that.

How is it EXTREMIST to propose things that EVERY OTHER modern nation is doing and things that we have already done? That is not connected to reality. Just how is it that you guys think this is pie in the sky? That shows a lack of vision that is STUNNING!

FDR wasn't a dictator but he was able to get it done. LBJ wasn't one either but he got congress to pass his Civil Rights bill. As Lincoln said, if you have the will of the people you can't lose, if you don't have the will of the people, you can't win. You can see from his crowds, Bernie gets the will of the people. Hillary does not. She has the will of the moneyed interests.

[mythology]

3. As opposed to Sanders saying white people don't know what it is to be poor?

Or Sanders admitting during a debate that his economic plan was so unformalized that he didn't know what the top tax rate would be?

You can find things any candidate says and run around like a chicken with your head cut off. But you do realize that Clinton apologized for her statement and admitted it was wrong right? I'm not holding my breath for Trump to do the same. Hell I'm not even expecting Sanders to do the same for saying white people don't know what it is to be poor.

You support Sanders. that clearly colors your view of what Clinton says. I'm fine with voting for either as neither Sanders nor Clinton was my preferred candidate, but the blindness on both sides is really frustrating.