Just a reminder that that the majority of Americans have an unfavorable opinion of Hillary

[Motown_Johnny]

12% upside down and getting worse all the time.





Bernie, on the other hand, 12.5% right side up and getting better all the time.

[Kalidurga]

1. My opinion of Hillary has gotten worse.

I have gone in less than a week from "No way in hell should she be President" to #thebighousenotthewhitehouse

Someone should ask Hillary what she thinks of the work that Health Management Associates, did in Little Rock and ask her what Bills outcome as a defendant on trial due to their criminal neglect came out.

[Betty Karlson]

61. Let me guess. She will "look into it"?

Still waiting for those transcripts. Praise Nancy!

[Kalidurga]

63. When this is all over she may indeed be looking into it...

hopefully when she loses the nomination she has lots of time to look into and has looked into it enough to know this is the issue that sunk her campaign.

[Betty Karlson]

64. Am I too optimistic to think she is like Mitt Romney and his tax returns?

Same obfuscation and prevarication, same entitled mentality, same arrogance and pro-corporations stances.

[Kalidurga]

65. I don't think this is going to get much press so...

It won't be like that in that sense. But, she is a full on Mitt.

[oasis]

2. So what, her favorables will rise when she's matched against Trump.

What's a voter to do?

[Motown_Johnny]

4. What makes you think that?

People can have unfavorable opinions of both. Then it becomes a turn out issue.

The RWingers hate Hillary. They will turn out against her. Even if they don't want Trump.

[oasis]

9. Minorities and women will turn out in record numbers to stop Trump.

And don't forget TRUE Democrats who chose not to endure the next twenty years under a rebooted Scalia Supreme Court. They won't allow Trump the chance to pick at least 3 justices.

[Motown_Johnny]

11. You need the middle to win and Trump can run to Hillary's left on 3 issues.

Money in politics

The Iraq war

Free Trade



I know you have convinced yourself that the coronation is inevitable. It isn't.

[oasis]

16. The "middle" will never swallow Trump's extremist rhetoric.

As for the Iraq War.(1) ancient history. (2) The vast majority of Americans accept the fact that it was Bush's war.

[Ned_Devine]

33. Ancient history? It's still going

Please tell me you're kidding

[oasis]

37. When was the IWR vote taken?

[Ned_Devine]

50. When it was taken doesn't matter to me.

[oasis]

51. Hill's vote back then doesn't matter to a majority of Democrats. nt

[Ned_Devine]

58. But you do understand that it does matter to many other democrats, right?

[oasis]

59. Yes I do.

I was opposed to the Bush Administration's build up to the Iraq invasion and the war itself. I got over it and voted for Kerry/Edwards. Some folks don't forgive, I get that.

[Fawke Em]

38. Not necessarily women.

Especially not Gen-Xer and Millennial women who aren't as concerned with the "female president" aura.

[oasis]

55. ALL women are concerned with Trump's misogyny.

Or a least they should be.

[pinebox]

66. Not even close. Trump leads the female vote on the right

[oasis]

67. The GE will bring out droves of Democratic and Independent women voters

to end the outrageous bullying of Trump.

[pinebox]

68. Not if Hillary is the nominee

Trump gets the indy vote if Hillary is the nominee.
Hillary can't carry the indy vote and this has been shown in states so far where leads with indy's more than 3:1.
In a GE matchup, Trump gets their vote.
You should be VERY concerned.

[oasis]

69. Hillary will be the Dem nominee. The GE changes the dynamics.

Women and minorities will carry the day for Democrats in November.

[pinebox]

70. No and no

And if by some magical wand Hillary is the nominee, Dems will lose the GE.
All facts point to this yet Hillary supporters ignore it.
Hillary is underwater in favorability and also not seen as trustworthy.
Trump is now over the 50% threshold.
If Hillary is the nominee, you better start praying for a brokered or a contested convention with the GOP & Trump going Indy.
Otherwise Dems are dead meat in the GE.
Hillary is the weaker candidate in a GE against a Republican opponent.

[oasis]

71. The potential makeup of SCOTUS will play a role. There's

plenty motivation for Democrats and Independents to avoid at all costs the GOP addition of 3 Scalia types to the high court.

[daleanime]

52. So 4 more years of partisan battle and no end in sight....

is the best you feel we can do?

[oasis]

57. Life is no bed of roses. At least we live in America.

[AgerolanAmerican]

53. at least once in my lifetime

I would like to experience a general election where the choice is not "who sucks less horribly"

[oasis]

56. Obama, Kerry, Gore, Dukakis, Carter, Mondale, JFK.

Who "sucked" in that group?

[AgerolanAmerican]

60. My picks

Kerry, Gore, Mondale, and the guy who Obama turned out to be (as opposed to the version we elected who was supposed to be pretty good).

I'm sure some will argue that Obama's been OK, but in the big picture he's done everything the war party and the corporatists want. First thing he had promised to do since he got into office was closing Guantanamo, and here we are 7 years later and it's still open.

It's been a long time since we got a good option who was actually who they said they were.

[Betty Karlson]

62. The lesser of two evils is, invariably, still evil. eom

[cherokeeprogressive]

3. Hillary's cratering. nt

[warrprayer]

5. K&R

Good post!

[Lil Missy]

6. here's another reminder. Hillary is way ahead. Obviously she's getting more votes than

Bernie. Imagine that.

[Motown_Johnny]

8. Well, after tomorrow she may go 3 weeks without a win.

Lets see how things look then.

[Chan790]

12. Can someone do the math and project that out?

So, assuming that HRC does go 3 weeks without a win...does that possibly put her behind?

[morningfog]

18. No, but it could put Bernie in striking distance.

It could set up high stake constests in NY and PA. If all falls into place for Bernie he could conceivably reach or surpass Hillary on the penultimate day of voting, June 7. It could come down to the wire.

I think we'll know after tomorrow night whether it is plausible.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

24. This likely won't be decided until June.

Unless one or the other starts having decisive wins in every state, the June 7 primaries will likely give one of them the majority of pledged delegates.

[Cheese Sandwich]

7. We're screwed unless she can be stopped.

[panader0]

10. This is a bit dated, but still....

[panader0]

17. ??

The poll illustrates Hillary's lack of the perception of honesty.
Signed, a devout Bernie supporter.
I was referring to my post poll.

[Motown_Johnny]

19. Sorry, I thought you were calling the charts I posted "dated"

I misread that, thinking you were attempting to refute my post.

My mistake, sorry.

[panader0]

20. No sweat Motown.

Go Bernie!

[Chan790]

14. That looks like this may be a race ripe for an indie candidate if Clinton/Trump is the matchup.

Not that I like the idea...it probably gets the election kicked to Congress...but in a race in which both candidates are viewed as dishonest and untrustworthy, there's probably an opening for someone to make a dent running against both of them and take at-least a few states.

[brooklynite]

15. Just a reminder that a majority of Democratic voters are supporting Clinton.

[Motown_Johnny]

21. That won't win the GE, will it?

[Chan790]

22. It's also a reminder that she has poor support with the independents that will decide the GE.

I wouldn't be so happy about her strong support among Democrats in light of her current horse-race. She's losing or barely winning on account of the indies in open-primary states going equally-strongly against her.

It portends a GE loss.

[oasis]

25. I'm sure independents want to be saddled with a right wing SCOTUS

for the next 20+years.

[Chan790]

26. It's been my impression that it's not even a factor for most of them.

Independents and unaffiliated voters put marginally more value on the SCOTUS argument than they do on voting based on which candidate's socks they like better.

What is a factor is "I don't trust Hillary and I hope she's not the nominee." voters.

If even half of them go for Trump as a result...we're going to lose the GE.

[oasis]

27. If Obama is not allowed a vote on his SCOTUS nominee,

independents will reject everything GOP.

[Chan790]

29. Assertion not in evidence. n/t

[oasis]

30. Common sense will have to serve as our place holder until

the evidence is revealed.

[Aerows]

45. Apparently sense isn't too common

if people think Hillary Clinton would make a good President.

[Aerows]

42. Thank you. n/t

[HooptieWagon]

34. If a RW SCOTUS is a concern...

Why would we nominate a RW Democratic POTUS candidate?

[Aerows]

43. Which is exactly where

the point of her candidacy in the Democratic party goes into the abyss.

[oasis]

46. We're just gonna have to take our chances. Aren't we?

[Aerows]

44. I'm sure Independents don't want to be saddled

with a clearly right-leaning President for even 4 years.

[oasis]

47. Keep dancing around the elephant in the room.

I'm told it's good for the circulation.

[timmymoff]

39. good luck

winning with just democrats. I'm a lifelong dem but I won't support her. I wont canvass, I won't phone bank, I won't even talk her up, my conscience won't allow me too. If she is the nominee (oh lawdy) there is no way I will help other than cast a vote. I won't become part of a machine designed to harm me.

[BainsBane]

23. She still has 1.65 million votes more than Bernie

RCP Total - 4,940,095 3,290,824 Clinton +1,649,271

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/democratic_vote_count.html

Those votes, combined with the delegate count, are the only numbers that matter.

[Zambero]

28. Last I heard Congress was at 11% favorable

Yet incumbents are almost always re-elected. A lot depends who they are running against. The same would apply in a presidential race, incumbent or otherwise. And all things being relative, no one comes remotely close to Trump's negatives.

[senz]

31. See, it doesn't matter that she's viewed unfavorably.

They just want to get her into the White House, any way they can, and who gives a whit what the American people think?

So when you post her and Bernie's favorable/unfavorable numbers, they counter with: we're gonna get her into the White House anyway.

Whether they get her in there or not, I hope the nature of her arch supporters will be analyzed someday in the history books. Should make for interesting reading.

Thanks for a good and well-designed OP, M_J.

[MisterP]

35. 'soon as they get to know her! but that's very important to seeing what's been done

to the party since well before '07: "you support N? why?" "because they're N!" *claps*; "you say they'll support N even if their positions are contradictory day by day, their campaign promises either hollow or smears, and they adopt everything you say they hate: why?" "because they're N, and the other guy is absolutely definitely not N! N will win!"

they're worms who want to be dragons

[Major Hogwash]

32. Doesn't matter, after she is indicted, her favorables will go through the roof!!!!!!!!!!

[Ned_Devine]

36. Where's the like button for this post? So true and funny!

[Aerows]

41. The variety of messes that she made in this ONE week

is rather astonishing.

My goodness, how do you screw up that badly without doing it on purpose? Has she decided that she doesn't want to be President after all?

[Aerows]

40. I'm supporting that man for President, too

The more I hear from Hillary Clinton, the less I think of her.

Hell, she scares me at times with her "get tough, start war" type talk.

[SoapBox]

48. She would lose in a GE match up.

Rump may be batshit crazy but the Anybody-But-Hillary crowd will come out of the woodwork...that matched with an apathetic and then nonenthusiastic Dem vote.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

49. With good reason.

[pdsimdars]

54. That's only HALF the truth

The other half is that they don't trust her either.