There will be NO President Trump. FUCK that.

[morningfog]

Hillary's Ohio win, plus large margins in Florida and North Carolina make it, while not mathematically impossible, nearly politically impossible for Bernie to catch and surpass her. It really hurts my heart. And really it does so because he has lead a movement that has gone father and higher than anyone expected.

I still support Bernie and him staying in the race as long as he wants, even to the convention. But, unless something earth shattering happens, Hillary will be the Democratic nominee. (And if something earth shattering happens, Bernie has the pledged delegates).

With that, fuck Donald Trump. He will not win. We will not let that happen. If Hillary is the nominee, I'll fight like hell for her and the Democrats and fight like hell against the facsist hate on the right. The difference will be stark and we will not lose this.

(I will still follow the delegate math and plot Bernie's theoretical path to victory until I hear him say that he has ended his campaign. And I will still hold out whatever grain of hope remains.)

[onecaliberal]

1. Sorry but if she's the nominee, it's Trump who will win

[0rganism]

3. i doubt that - how much of the Hispanic vote do you think Trump will take?

20%?
10%?
Republicans need at least 40% to win the presidency

[onecaliberal]

7. There are Hispanic groups for trump.

He will turn out ALL republicans to vote against Hillary, he will also win indies by a large margin. She will not beat him.

[jcgoldie]

21. Haha do you even believe your own bullshit?

Hispanic groups who vote for Trump? C'mon man.

[0rganism]

23. yeah he also has the KKK

any Hispanic support for Trump is going to be pretty fringy, i seriously doubt it breaks 20% overall.

i'm not getting that "oh shit" vibe yet -- Trump's support from the RNC establishment will be squishy, and he will have done a lot to alienate minority voters of all stripes. he even took a shot at disabled people, how do you think that's going to look in the attack ads?

nah, if the Republican bigots nominate Trumpolini, they're heading for a decade of irrelevance.

[onecaliberal]

29. HE HAS ALL INDEPENDENTS. ALL!

Blame those who forced a fake dem, corporate owned person who 67% of America says they DO NOT TRUST OR BELIEVE. And that isn't counting the millions of dems she has already completely alienated. But whatever. If that comforts you. Reality will be difficult. There is real suffering in this country, I'm sorry we can't give two fucks about that.

[0rganism]

30. if you're determined to freak out, i won't try to stop you

i really doubt any of Trump/Cruz/Kasich will get ALL the independents, probably not even half, but if worrying helps you get to sleep at night, go ahead and believe that they will.

[onecaliberal]

31. I'm looking at who they're voting for now. I'm not freaking out, I'm looking at facts.

Don't bother, I'm putting you on ignore now.

[0rganism]

32. wow, ignore for that? bad night, i guess

good luck with the rest of it.

wish i was at least a Clinton supporter

[lastlib]

33. yeah, he bankrolls 'em. Srsly, what Hispanic voter would WANT to be on board

with Dumpty-Trumpty?

[pinebox]

9. Dem votes WAY down

GOP is up...this won't be good

[0rganism]

13. not unusual for this kind of primary election

i was really worried about it too a few weeks ago

but the incumbent's party often has lower turnout in the primary, and it doesn't necessarily reflect on turnout numbers for the general election.

[davidn3600]

19. Democratic turnout is way down...the millennials aren't going to turn out

And white, working class voters are leaving the party.

[Lizzie Poppet]

25. And independents don't like her.

This is a flat-out disaster, either way, for progressive values...but it could be a disaster for the entire nation if she can't beat Trump...and she can't.

[0rganism]

27. post #13 -- low primary turnout not unusual for an incumbent party's primary

don't panic

[Xipe Totec]

12. Not on my account

Holding a barf bag I will advance bravely and pull the lever for HRC if push comes to shove, and the choice is between her or that flaming trash dumpster.

But the fight is not over.

It's to early to talk about what to do in the event our candidate does not win.

[cwydro]

15. No way in hell.

AA voters and women are coming out in droves for Clinton.

There'll even be Republican women who will reject Trump.

[onecaliberal]

18. You keep telling yourself that. You might want to look at who is voting for her now

Hint; Independents are the LARGEST voting block in the country.

[Lorien]

24. Without a doubt. She is loathed by so many that the turnout will be low

and Trump is no doubt sitting on a wealth of correspondence and taped calls between himself and the benefactors of his charity (the Clintons) which he'll easily be able to crush her with.

[jzodda]

28. Trump has ZERO chance

His negatives are through the roof. Much higher than Clinton, much higher then anybody.

How do you win when you start out at almost 70% negatives?

Also guarantee constant craziness in Trump land from now till November.

ALSO: Get ready for a Third party challenge from the right to Trump

[pkdu]

4. Well Said K&R. nt

[doc03]

5. It is looking like the MSM is going to anoint the asshole

[mcar]

6. Well said!

Thank you.

[mainstreetonce]

8. Wise morningfog

Good post

[Persondem]

10. Nice post. Thank you. Trump will hopefully max out at about 45% of the electorate.

Heck he can barely get 45% of the GOP vote.

[Surya Gayatri]

11. Your heartache sounds very sincere. Thank you for your

DEMOCRATIC solidarity in spite of it.

This pledge is beautiful:

"If Hillary is the nominee, I'll fight like hell for her and the Democrats and fight like hell against the facsist hate on the right. The difference will be stark and we will not lose this."

[NCTraveler]

14. Enjoyed the post.

It's my opinion that Sanders must stay in and fight until the convention.

[FSogol]

16. +1, Well said. n/t

[Control-Z]

17. What a gracious post.

You're the kind of supporter that would make Senator Sanders proud.

[white_wolf]

20. I'll vote for HRC if I have to, but

a lot of people won't and Trump will destroy Hillary. I better not hear any complaints from Camp Weathervane when Trump is sworn in because they brought this on themselves by supporting such a weak candidate. I firmly believe that a vote for Hillary in the primaries is a vote for Trump in the GE.

[TheProgressive]

22. If Clinton is the DNC/corporate nominee, then Trump wins...

It's that simple...

[dana_b]

26. agreed n/t

[Jenny_92808]

34. Stop it. There is a front-loading of the blue-dog states in this process. Just wait until we get to

the more progressive states. Go Bernie!

[Rosa Luxemburg]

35. He will push for a draft and start a nuclear war

[Doctor_J]

36. The fact is that the difference between a Trump presidency and a Clinton presidency

is, for almost all Americans, negligible. Healthcare costs will continue to rise, insurance and drug companies will continue to rape us, Wall street will continue to rule the country, the death penalty will remain the law of the land, the prison industrial complex will continue to grow, fracking will go on, the minimum wage will stay at poverty level, TPP will depress wages and take decent jobs overseas, college will become even less affordable, our ridiculous (and murderous) intervention all through the middle east and latin america will grow, and it's very likely that Hillary will cut Social Security benefits.

She is the most revolting D candidate during my lifetime which is mercifully almost over, and her supporters are nearly as repulsive as republicans.