2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders should do the right thing for the party he loves and drop out.
Sanders has to win something like 75% of the remaining delegates including super-delegates to win the nomination. And every time he wins by less than 75% he falls further behind.
Also, Trump is already running anti-Hillary ads. Hillary needs to be able to focus on the real enemy. Bernie should do the right thing for the party he so passionately loves and end his campaign. If something goes wrong later in the process, Bernie can jump back in.
msongs
(67,441 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)We will see what kind of "democrat" Bernie is real soon!
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)it is better that we find out now.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Someone did the math on here today. Bernie would need to win about 58% of the delegates going forward.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)Most of them are commited to Hilary. Im sure one or two might switch, but not a significant number.
vintx
(1,748 posts)Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)vintx
(1,748 posts)brooklynite
(94,727 posts)Is a candidate who barely won Michigan and lost Ohio, Illinois and Missouri going to do well in Wisconsin?
Is a candidate who relies on Independent voters going to do well in closed Primary States like New York, New Jersey and Pennsylvania?
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)The party is the career of most of these super delegates. Why would they switch to a guy who has criticized their party for many years, admitted that the only reason he's running as a Dem is for personal gain, and who now has the unmitigated gall to run to be the head of their party?
Huh?
hellofromreddit
(1,182 posts)It's misleading to lump votes in with non-votes.
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)He has to start winning big in largely populated states. And that's not happening.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)You wish.
To the convention!
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)kennetha
(3,666 posts)redgreenandblue
(2,088 posts)By the way, your username is pretty ironic.
Renew Deal
(81,871 posts)His name will remain on the ballot. You can still vote for him.
artislife
(9,497 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Gregorian
(23,867 posts)Busted!
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)brentspeak
(18,290 posts)Autumn
(45,120 posts)hallio
(25 posts)GO BERNIE !!!
Autumn
(45,120 posts)marions ghost
(19,841 posts)no time to quit.
hallio
(25 posts)will they stop when Bernie^s in the White House ?
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)If Bernie can't win, she need not expend any energy fighting him.
Marr
(20,317 posts)Renew Deal
(81,871 posts)And Bernie is not on the top of that list
Marr
(20,317 posts)Hypothetically, if a candidate were indicted, they (or their advisors) couldn't really recommend a replacement with any credibility.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Biden would be picked, or someone else who has a chance to win and hasn't attacked the Democratic Party repeatedly over the last 25 years.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Winning a brokered convention. No one who is not a pledged delegate for them votes for them after the first ballot.
Particularly with Sanders there is no point. Voters are not choosing him. The convention will be justified in saying that there was no consensus among Democratic voters for Sanders so they are going to pick someone who can win and who has gravitas, like the sitting Vice President.
It will be harder for the GOP to justify denying Trump the nomination, but they care a lot less about appearing to do the right thing so...
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)gcomeau
(5,764 posts)Unless by "the right thing" you mean "get out of the way of it moving right".
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)There is never any justification in having an uncontested presidential primary.
And HRC would stand for nothing if all the delegates in Philly were hers.
cleopotrick
(79 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)k8conant
(3,030 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)The American people -- the 99% -- remember them?
Get with it.
Renew Deal
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ecstatic
(32,731 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)John Poet
(2,510 posts)G_j
(40,370 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)Ain't gonna happen.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)dchill
(38,532 posts)Hyperbolic bullshit.
Renew Deal
(81,871 posts)No matter how much we all pretend they don't. And unless Bernie win elections big, Super-Delegates will not flip.
k8conant
(3,030 posts)she wouldn't have made it a regressive version of itself.
Beacool
(30,251 posts)He has the right to stay until the last vote has been cast. I supported Hillary in 2008. Part of the reason she stayed was due to all the women who wanted the opportunity to vote for a woman in a primary. After all was said and done, she worked very hard to help elect Obama. Therefore, I can't be a hypocrite and ask for Sanders to drop out.
potone
(1,701 posts)Far too many people on this site seem to have forgotten about all the people who thought Hillary should drop out before the primaries were over in 2008. Her supporters resented it then, and they should be consistent now in in their attitude towards Bernie staying in the race.
Beacool
(30,251 posts)Granted, I don't think that he'll surpass Hillary in the pledged delegate count, but he's entitled to stay in the race.
artislife
(9,497 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,836 posts)to "do the right thing for the party she loved." Instead, she hung in there until June 7 and pointed out that Bill had not secured the nomination until June of 1992 - and she also said "We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California."
anotherproletariat
(1,446 posts)I think if he stays in the race to further his message, and avoids attacking Hillary, it will benefit both of them.
Bernie will get to continue the large platform for his issues, and Hillary will be shielded from huge amounts of repub negativity for a little bit longer.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Clinton stayed in until July.
Bernie can stay in until July!
sueh
(1,826 posts)Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)by camp weathervane we are now being told that he loves the party and should drop out. Hilarious.
w4rma
(31,700 posts)Not really. I look forward to watching her lose another Democratic primary at the convention.