Theory: Clinton gets indicted; Biden jumps in; Sanders flips out

[kcjohn1]

As much as people are hoping for GOP contested convention it might actually be Dems where this happens. Clinton bows out if indicted, Biden comes in to save the day, Sanders loses majority of Clinton delegates on first round of voting, and establishment backs Biden leading to uproar by Sanders supporters. Could explain why Biden didn't jump in. This way he acts like statesman, and it doesn't look like Obama for his justice dept to get rid of his buddies rival.

Then again I don't see Hillary stepping aside even in the case of conviction.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. LOL!

[MirrorAshes]

2. what are you smoking?

[msanthrope]

6. Pass that shit, right? nt

[Xipe Totec]

14. I'd pass on that shit. very dangerous. Brain damaging. nt

[kcjohn1]

9. Do you really think indictment possibility

Is 0%? Whenever there is investigation there is possibility of indictment.

Even if you say there is 5% chance if indictment, what do you think happens? Scenario I laid out is most likely outcome.

In mind there is high probability Clinton broke laws. Indictment is unlikely because the rich and powerful play by different standards.

[madokie]

38. Whatever it is I sure don't want any of it

[PoliticAverse]

3. There's 'theory' and then there's 'reality'. n/t

[grasswire]

4. I would RATHER see this:

Clinton steps down, O'Malley reenters the race against Bernie. They end with a coalition and raise hell against Trump. Bernie and O'Malley. That puts O'Malley in position for three terms total.

[Kalidurga]

5. I like that

Or Bernie chooses Nina Turner. Heads would splode.

[cosmicone]

15. Nina Turner is history in Ohio

I doubt she would get support to run for dog catcher now.

[Kalidurga]

16. Your opinion means as much to me as....

nope can't think of anything I value less.

[Kentonio]

41. It amazes me that you think it's acceptable to blacklist a strong, wonderful progressive politician

Purely because she supported a different candidate to the establishment favorite. That kind of attitude is everything that's wrong in the party, and a huge part of the reason why we don't believe it for a second when we're told we should be changing the party from the bottom up.

[BreakfastClub]

7. She's not going to be indicted. The right wing lies, in case you haven't noticed. nt

[grasswire]

8. But her emails don't lie.

They are evidence.

[liberal_at_heart]

10. Any average working person would be fired and sued for using a personal server for such

sensitive information. Why should she be allowed to do it?

[Mz Pip]

21. Then indict Powell and Rice, too.

Clinton did what her predecessors did. It was not illegal at the time. She hasn't been indicted because there is zero chance of a conviction.

The rules governing communication haven't really caught up with the technology. I'm sure the bureaucracy is working on new rules and maybe in a few years they'll figure it out.

[liberal_at_heart]

25. Sorry but my husband worked in the telecom industry. He was an engineer. He worked on

very classified company projects. He would have been fired and sued if he had ever used private email for sensitive information. The fact that high level government staff are special and get to do whatever they want is no excuse. They can't possibly think that the Russians or Chinese or many other countries aren't constantly trying to hack their email. They whole everybody does it excuse is no excuse.

[Mz Pip]

43. The private sector is different.

I'm sure it's guidelines and rules governing communication are pretty clear. The government buracracy takes much longer to catch up.

I have a good friend who worked for the DoD. He said the rules regarding communications haven't caught up with the technology by a long shot. You can't really indict someone for not following rules that weren't in place at the time.

Hopefully, this will bring about the needed changes.

[artislife]

35. So does she...as she dodges sniper fire

Actually, I am patiently waiting for that to come on the tv in the ads.

[BainsBane]

11. I think it's a sad state of affairs

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that after recognizing a candidate can't get attract anywhere close to a majority of Democratic voters that his supporters spend their time wishing for an indictment of Clinton in order to overturn the will of the people.

She isn't going to be indicted. Karl Rove, Fox, and "progressives" will just have to accept reality.
I'm sorry people have so little respect for the democratic will of Democratic voters, but given what else I've seen in this campaign I would expect nothing else.

[cosmicone]

18. It is the same authoritarian streak that made

them alert-stalk, jury-rig and silence people into forced time-outs.

They know what is best for the country and everyone else should bow down and accept their view. If not, they will put a pox on your house or stick pins a doll shaped like you.

They are the only ones with a righteous view and the millions who voted for Hillary were gullible, stupid and uninformed.

They are the only arbiters of truth and morality.

The world has seen this before too many times, every time with a horrible result.

[tonedevil]

22. You are a case study...

of the philosophical theory it takes one to know one.

[Warren DeMontague]

36. "The world has seen this before too many times, every time with a horrible result"- egads, listen to

yourself.



You're gonna hyperbole a perfect game, if you keep it up.


Yes, verily, Kristallnacht was exactly the same as someone getting a time out on an internet message board.

Damn you, berniebrownshirts!

[Beowulf]

12. It's lose-lose

She either gets indicted before the convention or it's impeachment hearings 24/7/365 in 2017. You don't think a GOP controlled House won't start impeachment hearings as soon as they have pretext to do so?

[AgadorSparticus]

13. You're really grasping....

[MohRokTah]

17. My theory is pink winged unicorns start flying out of Donald Trump's ass.

My theory is every bit as realistic as yours.

[NWCorona]

19. Not really. Your theory has fictional characters

And his has upwards of 150 FBI agents, 75 State Department staff, an unknown number of independent DOJ prosecutor's and a few federal judges.

[MohRokTah]

20. Your theory has every bit as much fiction involved as mine. eom

[NWCorona]

23. Prove what I said wrong then.

Are you disputing my numbers or are you saying I'm lying?

[MohRokTah]

24. PROVE A NEGATIVE!!!!!!

[NWCorona]

27. That's just a stupid argument.

And just proves that you have no debating skills. I asked you to counter with some facts instead of fantasy talk and you post a meme.

Please carry on lol!

[RealAmericanDem]

42. These numbers are from an anonymous Fox news source.

Wonder why anyone other than a Fox parrot would repeat them.

Try posting up a legitimate source.

[ram2008]

26. I would love a Biden-Warren ticket

But it won't happen .

Would be my second choice now that a Sanders/Gabbard ticket is pretty much out of the realm of possibility.

[DJ13]

28. This could be a historic year in Presidential politics

Theres a real possibility that neither of the front runners in the two major parties runs in the general election.

[grossproffit]

29. Hillary won't run third party.

[Lil Missy]

30. She's not going to be indicted. That's only on Fox News. n/t

[madamesilverspurs]

31. Dude, don't bogart the whatever!

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[geek tragedy]

32. Clap louder for the Indictment Fairy! nt

[SheilaT]

33. Biden is not going to jump in.

Please get beyond that.

If Hillary is indicted, if sufficiently before the convention, Bernie will get nominated. If after the convention, her VP choice will move into her place, a new VP will be selected, and all will proceed.

If Bernie gets nominated, then Hillary is indicted, then oh, gosh, too bad, but it won't make much of a difference to the national campaign.

If Hillary remains in the lead and the entire email thing blows over, then try as the Republicans will, this will be a total non issue. In fact, if it plays out that way (Hillary is the nominee, no email indictment) and they try to make hay out of the email thing, boy will they lose big time.

There is a genuine danger that Hillary is nominated, then gets indicted, and all hell breaks loose. I hope that is not the scenario.

I will state that I'm a very strong Bernie supporter, so for many, mostly obvious, reasons, I hope he is nominated. But even though I honestly think there is something in the whole email thing, I am not one who thinks that will take Hillary down. I see it as a relatively trivial issue, and I sincerely hope that the nomination goes to the person with the most delegates in the end.

[MrWendel]

34. The Benghazi lite

fantasy. Can't beat her in votes and delegates, cross your fingers and hope for indictment.

[Warren DeMontague]

37. I think if Hillary were to end up in real trouble with the FBI, Biden probably would get in.

But I strenuously hope that doesn't happen, and not just because I'm less enthused for Biden than I am for Hillary.

[delrem]

40. Yah but it isn't really possible, is it? That the FBI would intervene.

Except theoretically. Yes. Theoretically.
But why would they? Hillary Clinton is the best hope for the FBI, the NSA, for the MIC.
She's #1 on their payroll.

[delrem]

39. c'mon. Cheney got away with torture. The sky's the limit

and it hasn't been reached yet.