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MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:35 PM Mar 2016

Why I Don't Give a Flying Flip Whether Or Not Sanders Suspends His Campaign.

I can do math. I know that it is over mathematically and Hillary is the nominee.

If Sanders and his following wish to continue in a futile effort to somehow alter the laws of mathematics, who am I to really give a damn?



Please continue, Senator.

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Why I Don't Give a Flying Flip Whether Or Not Sanders Suspends His Campaign. (Original Post) MohRokTah Mar 2016 OP
It's always amusing when people announce they don't care about something. n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #1
"They want us to give up" is a strawman nt firebrand80 Mar 2016 #2
Yes, very much so. MohRokTah Mar 2016 #4
So stop doing it. 840high Mar 2016 #23
I'm sharing amusing anecdotes with my political allies MohRokTah Mar 2016 #24
Hope to see you on Time out again soon! n/t mcranor Mar 2016 #28
I've been granted amnesty and time outs are now gone MohRokTah Mar 2016 #31
I agree workinclasszero Mar 2016 #3
One word that is a noun Iliyah Mar 2016 #5
That word only confirms my impression of the man from years ago. MohRokTah Mar 2016 #6
Help Me Here - Isn't In Her Best Interest That Bernie Stays In Till The Convention...... global1 Mar 2016 #7
"I know that it is over mathematically" Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #8
Yep, mathematically, there is no path to the nomination for Sanders. eom MohRokTah Mar 2016 #9
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #11
Delusional exerecises in futility by candiates with no path to the nominations CRACK ME UP MohRokTah Mar 2016 #12
People with a staggering lack of the most basic skills at arithmetic don't exactly crack me up. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #14
I judge local economies by observing basic mathemaical skills in fast food restaurants. MohRokTah Mar 2016 #27
Rambling, tangential (at best) word salads don't exactly help your case. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #34
Though its not likely, its not mathematically over. phleshdef Mar 2016 #15
I've been trying to explain this to him since yesterday. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #16
Facts don't matter - only what the HRC machine tells them matters. vintx Mar 2016 #17
LOL. phleshdef Mar 2016 #18
It's now 58% and will rise to 59% when all March 15 delegates are allocated. MohRokTah Mar 2016 #19
As I agreed that its not likely, its still mathematically possible. phleshdef Mar 2016 #32
"Mathematically, it's over." Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #35
Soon this thread will be filled with your "indifference" whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #10
K&R.Finally some clear words of sense. nt COLGATE4 Mar 2016 #13
It's not futile. And he's FORCING Clinton to talk populism. johnnyrocket Mar 2016 #20
. MohRokTah Mar 2016 #21
Laugh all you want................ bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #30
There is more at stake than the nomination. And HRC presidency is temporary. Yes, please continue. aikoaiko Mar 2016 #22
There is more at stake, plus what if something happens to Hillary flamingdem Mar 2016 #25
Unfortunately serbbral Mar 2016 #26
Welcome back, MRT! yallerdawg Mar 2016 #29
K & R enthusiastically. Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #33
It's important for him to continue so his supporters see closure/completion. KittyWampus Mar 2016 #36
I hope you aren't responsible for balancing any sort of budget tk2kewl Mar 2016 #37
I have made a living with my math skills for more than three decades. MohRokTah Mar 2016 #38
So happy to hear about your pay check tk2kewl Mar 2016 #39
The term "mathematical elimination" has never been used by me. MohRokTah Mar 2016 #40
From your OP: "it is over mathematically" tk2kewl Mar 2016 #41
IT is over, mathematically. MohRokTah Mar 2016 #44
Oh, and re baseball tk2kewl Mar 2016 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author tk2kewl Mar 2016 #45
Sanders should not drop out Gwhittey Mar 2016 #42
What kind of horrible person would say something like that? EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 #53
Bridge-burning activity against a backdrop of a budding Nazi who must be defeated is offputting. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #43
Neither do I. I still won't vote for her. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #47
There comes a time when it's best to focus on Republicans, though. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #48
She should have enough total delegates to secure the nomination by no later than MAy 17 MohRokTah Mar 2016 #50
Well....it would appear that the longer he keeps the campaign running... Sheepshank Mar 2016 #49
He demonstrates the short sighted thinking of a day trader. MohRokTah Mar 2016 #51
As a Hillary supporter ... I think Bernie should stay in ... JoePhilly Mar 2016 #52
Sanders should continue as long as he is able to do so Gothmog Mar 2016 #54
Obnoxious. reformist2 Mar 2016 #55
 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
4. Yes, very much so.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:40 PM
Mar 2016

There is no reason to step in and confront people you do not know when they are engaging in delusional exercises in futility.

Hell, even attempting to do so with people you actually know is often times an exercise in futility.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
24. I'm sharing amusing anecdotes with my political allies
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:21 PM
Mar 2016

I cannot help it if some delusional people decide they wish to participate in the conversation.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
31. I've been granted amnesty and time outs are now gone
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:33 PM
Mar 2016


No more alert stalking by Sandbagger Berniebros to silence the truth.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
3. I agree
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:40 PM
Mar 2016

It will be ever more fun as the delusion of Bernie actually having a shot at the nomination continues in the face of the reality of his utter defeat.


global1

(25,263 posts)
7. Help Me Here - Isn't In Her Best Interest That Bernie Stays In Till The Convention......
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:49 PM
Mar 2016

If you are so confident that Hillary has this thing wrapped up - then it seems to me you shouldn't want Bernie to drop out of this race before the convention. Why?

Here's what I think. Bernie staying in this - gives Hillary an opportunity to share her platform with all the rest of the states and get much exposure to voters that would be having to make the decision to vote between her and whomever the Repugs wind up with as their nominee. Bernie allows her to have this exposure to half the country. That to me is a positive. If you and she are so confident that she will ultimately wind up as the nominee - you shouldn't have any problem with having her get this exposure. My only conclusion as to why you want Bernie out of this race this early in the process is that you don't have the confidence in your candidate that she can actually win.

The other reason that this should go on until the convention is because as soon as and if Bernie drops out - the Repugs will unleash all their attack dogs, campaign ads and money - to do everything possible to create a negative sentiment in this country against Hillary. Do you want that to happen this early in the process? I would want to minimize the time that they have to negative campaign against her or any Dem nominee.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
14. People with a staggering lack of the most basic skills at arithmetic don't exactly crack me up.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:07 PM
Mar 2016

Well, they do, actually...but I try to keep it to myself, because it's cruel to ridicule the disabled.

Still need help with the definition of "impossible?"

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
27. I judge local economies by observing basic mathemaical skills in fast food restaurants.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:26 PM
Mar 2016

If the person at the register has difficulty when I give them a ten, two quarters, a dime, a nickel, and three pennies on an order with a total of $3.68, I know the local economy is doing fairly well. On the other hand, if that cashier is extremely competent and has no problems at all mathematically if I say, "wait, I have a five, can I get that ten back?" the local economy is likely in a slump.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
34. Rambling, tangential (at best) word salads don't exactly help your case.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:42 PM
Mar 2016

But by all means, continue. This is simply hilarious.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
15. Though its not likely, its not mathematically over.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:07 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie Sanders could, hypothetically, win over 57% of the remaining pledged delegates if he had some real blowout showings for the rest of the 26 states left. Yea, its not probable, but if you want to talk pure mathematics, its mathematically possible.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
16. I've been trying to explain this to him since yesterday.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:07 PM
Mar 2016

Like trying to explain quantum dynamics to a squirrel...

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
19. It's now 58% and will rise to 59% when all March 15 delegates are allocated.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:11 PM
Mar 2016

To secure that number of delegates requires Minnesota level victories in ALL remaining 24 states, 3 territories, and the District of Columbia.

The draconian election laws of New York alone ends any possibility whatsoever of that happening, and that doesn't take into account any other state on the table, let alone the territories and the District of Columbia.

Mathematically, it's over.

BERNT TOAST!

The Senator's campaign is all Berned Out.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
32. As I agreed that its not likely, its still mathematically possible.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:41 PM
Mar 2016

There is no need for you to act like such a childish asshole about it. You are basically going "nanananana" at the entire board. How old are you again?

johnnyrocket

(1,773 posts)
20. It's not futile. And he's FORCING Clinton to talk populism.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:12 PM
Mar 2016

I just hope she sticks with it in the general.

flamingdem

(39,314 posts)
25. There is more at stake, plus what if something happens to Hillary
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:21 PM
Mar 2016

We need to be grateful that Bernie is up for a continuing fight.

He'll bring more voters to the process, he'll attract young people who often don't vote and don't pay attention, he'll keep the focus on all that is wrong with US politics today.

Just the fact that voters funded his campaign is a plus for the Democratic Party. That looks good in a year when Donald Trump is supposedly "self funding". We (the Dems that is including Bernie) can do it too.

serbbral

(260 posts)
26. Unfortunately
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:25 PM
Mar 2016

I agree. Sadly, I do think it is over for Bernie. However, I remember when HRC did not easily bow out when she was running against Obama and it was obvious that the race was over, so I am not so quick to see him bow out. I hope he goes all the way to the convention.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
36. It's important for him to continue so his supporters see closure/completion.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:44 PM
Mar 2016

And if he has a message others want to hear then he should continue on.

I just think he should retool that message to make it less of an attack on Hillary Clinton/Democrats/Establishment and more PRO-Labor.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
37. I hope you aren't responsible for balancing any sort of budget
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:19 PM
Mar 2016

Because your math skills are pretty poor

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
38. I have made a living with my math skills for more than three decades.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:21 PM
Mar 2016

My salary is six figures.

The only people who have poor math skills around here are the ones who believe Sanders still has a chance.

Either that or they are just plain delusional.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
39. So happy to hear about your pay check
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:30 PM
Mar 2016

But mathematical elimination is an actual thing. And the maths have things called the proofs that end with letters like QED

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
40. The term "mathematical elimination" has never been used by me.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:33 PM
Mar 2016

I am a Cubs fan. Each year I realize when the writing is on the wall based upon math. Its usually another month before they are mathematically eliminated, but the math still says they are done for the season a month before mathematical elimination actually occurs.

Perhaps somebody familiar with those experiences on a nearly annual basis would also understand that the math says Sanders has Berned Out.

At least somebody who paid attention to the 2008 primaries should understand that mathematically, Sanders is done.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
41. From your OP: "it is over mathematically"
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:38 PM
Mar 2016

Maybe you use the Clinton dictionary where it depends on what the definition of "is" is... Maybe you also have a various definitions of "over" as well.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
44. IT is over, mathematically.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:43 PM
Mar 2016

There is not a mathematical elimination,...

yet.

That is inevitable with the current math.

Like the Cubs in August most years, the math says it's over even though mathematical elimination has not yet occurred.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
46. Oh, and re baseball
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:46 PM
Mar 2016

I'm a Mets fan... We don't give up until it's over... Maybe that's why we actually make it to the series once in a while

Response to tk2kewl (Reply #41)

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
42. Sanders should not drop out
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:40 PM
Mar 2016

We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. So give him to at least the convention.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
43. Bridge-burning activity against a backdrop of a budding Nazi who must be defeated is offputting.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:42 PM
Mar 2016

It's as though you're taunting people who feel they've had their choice removed--as if to say 'go with my candidate or you get the Nazi, and meantime, enjoy me grinding it into your face'. No thanks.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
48. There comes a time when it's best to focus on Republicans, though.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 04:01 PM
Mar 2016

I can see Sanders continuing to run until late April. After April 26th, I suspect Clinton's lead will be overwhelming. At that point, Sanders risks doing a disservice by staying in the race.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
50. She should have enough total delegates to secure the nomination by no later than MAy 17
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 04:05 PM
Mar 2016

The the Berniebros will go back to screaming about how super delegates are stealing the election.

Two weeks later she will have secured more than half of all the pledged delegates.

And the Berniebros will move the goal posts claiming she hasn't secured 2382 pledged delegates.

Not much you can do about delusional exercises in futility other than to let them keep on their course.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
49. Well....it would appear that the longer he keeps the campaign running...
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 04:03 PM
Mar 2016

...the more donations with which to pay his family, as Campaign staffers.

I suppose since he has in the past, and I've been told still, despises the Democratic party, it's one way to use up the finds rather than have any of it go to the DNC.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
51. He demonstrates the short sighted thinking of a day trader.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 04:07 PM
Mar 2016

If he keeps up the attacks on Hillary much longer the best committee assignment he can hope for in the new Senate will be the Health and Human Services Subcommittee on Underwater Basket Weaving.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
52. As a Hillary supporter ... I think Bernie should stay in ...
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 04:08 PM
Mar 2016

... and the reason is that once he drops out, the entire media framing will shift to be 100% GOP oriented. The only issues the media will touch, will be the issues the GOP cares about.

As long as Bernie is in, the media has to talk about other issues because Hillary and Bernie will both be talking about Dem issues. Once he drops, Hillary will still talk about those issues, but the media will stop caring.

Gothmog

(145,463 posts)
54. Sanders should continue as long as he is able to do so
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 05:03 PM
Mar 2016

Sanders will be unable to overcome the delegate lead

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