2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy I Don't Give a Flying Flip Whether Or Not Sanders Suspends His Campaign.
I can do math. I know that it is over mathematically and Hillary is the nominee.
If Sanders and his following wish to continue in a futile effort to somehow alter the laws of mathematics, who am I to really give a damn?
Please continue, Senator.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)firebrand80
(2,760 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)There is no reason to step in and confront people you do not know when they are engaging in delusional exercises in futility.
Hell, even attempting to do so with people you actually know is often times an exercise in futility.
840high
(17,196 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)I cannot help it if some delusional people decide they wish to participate in the conversation.
mcranor
(92 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)No more alert stalking by Sandbagger Berniebros to silence the truth.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)It will be ever more fun as the delusion of Bernie actually having a shot at the nomination continues in the face of the reality of his utter defeat.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)M O N E Y
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Con man.
global1
(25,263 posts)If you are so confident that Hillary has this thing wrapped up - then it seems to me you shouldn't want Bernie to drop out of this race before the convention. Why?
Here's what I think. Bernie staying in this - gives Hillary an opportunity to share her platform with all the rest of the states and get much exposure to voters that would be having to make the decision to vote between her and whomever the Repugs wind up with as their nominee. Bernie allows her to have this exposure to half the country. That to me is a positive. If you and she are so confident that she will ultimately wind up as the nominee - you shouldn't have any problem with having her get this exposure. My only conclusion as to why you want Bernie out of this race this early in the process is that you don't have the confidence in your candidate that she can actually win.
The other reason that this should go on until the convention is because as soon as and if Bernie drops out - the Repugs will unleash all their attack dogs, campaign ads and money - to do everything possible to create a negative sentiment in this country against Hillary. Do you want that to happen this early in the process? I would want to minimize the time that they have to negative campaign against her or any Dem nominee.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)God, this is priceless...keep 'em coming!
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Well, they do, actually...but I try to keep it to myself, because it's cruel to ridicule the disabled.
Still need help with the definition of "impossible?"
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)If the person at the register has difficulty when I give them a ten, two quarters, a dime, a nickel, and three pennies on an order with a total of $3.68, I know the local economy is doing fairly well. On the other hand, if that cashier is extremely competent and has no problems at all mathematically if I say, "wait, I have a five, can I get that ten back?" the local economy is likely in a slump.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)But by all means, continue. This is simply hilarious.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)Bernie Sanders could, hypothetically, win over 57% of the remaining pledged delegates if he had some real blowout showings for the rest of the 26 states left. Yea, its not probable, but if you want to talk pure mathematics, its mathematically possible.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Like trying to explain quantum dynamics to a squirrel...
vintx
(1,748 posts)phleshdef
(11,936 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)To secure that number of delegates requires Minnesota level victories in ALL remaining 24 states, 3 territories, and the District of Columbia.
The draconian election laws of New York alone ends any possibility whatsoever of that happening, and that doesn't take into account any other state on the table, let alone the territories and the District of Columbia.
Mathematically, it's over.
BERNT TOAST!
The Senator's campaign is all Berned Out.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)There is no need for you to act like such a childish asshole about it. You are basically going "nanananana" at the entire board. How old are you again?
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)This is just pure comedy gold.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)johnnyrocket
(1,773 posts)I just hope she sticks with it in the general.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)aikoaiko
(34,182 posts)flamingdem
(39,314 posts)We need to be grateful that Bernie is up for a continuing fight.
He'll bring more voters to the process, he'll attract young people who often don't vote and don't pay attention, he'll keep the focus on all that is wrong with US politics today.
Just the fact that voters funded his campaign is a plus for the Democratic Party. That looks good in a year when Donald Trump is supposedly "self funding". We (the Dems that is including Bernie) can do it too.
serbbral
(260 posts)I agree. Sadly, I do think it is over for Bernie. However, I remember when HRC did not easily bow out when she was running against Obama and it was obvious that the race was over, so I am not so quick to see him bow out. I hope he goes all the way to the convention.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Flying Flip Not Given...
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)And if he has a message others want to hear then he should continue on.
I just think he should retool that message to make it less of an attack on Hillary Clinton/Democrats/Establishment and more PRO-Labor.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)Because your math skills are pretty poor
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)My salary is six figures.
The only people who have poor math skills around here are the ones who believe Sanders still has a chance.
Either that or they are just plain delusional.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)But mathematical elimination is an actual thing. And the maths have things called the proofs that end with letters like QED
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)I am a Cubs fan. Each year I realize when the writing is on the wall based upon math. Its usually another month before they are mathematically eliminated, but the math still says they are done for the season a month before mathematical elimination actually occurs.
Perhaps somebody familiar with those experiences on a nearly annual basis would also understand that the math says Sanders has Berned Out.
At least somebody who paid attention to the 2008 primaries should understand that mathematically, Sanders is done.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)Maybe you use the Clinton dictionary where it depends on what the definition of "is" is... Maybe you also have a various definitions of "over" as well.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)There is not a mathematical elimination,...
yet.
That is inevitable with the current math.
Like the Cubs in August most years, the math says it's over even though mathematical elimination has not yet occurred.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)I'm a Mets fan... We don't give up until it's over... Maybe that's why we actually make it to the series once in a while
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Gwhittey
(1,377 posts)We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. So give him to at least the convention.
EmperorHasNoClothes
(4,797 posts)Oh yeah.... Hillary.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)It's as though you're taunting people who feel they've had their choice removed--as if to say 'go with my candidate or you get the Nazi, and meantime, enjoy me grinding it into your face'. No thanks.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Garrett78
(10,721 posts)I can see Sanders continuing to run until late April. After April 26th, I suspect Clinton's lead will be overwhelming. At that point, Sanders risks doing a disservice by staying in the race.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)The the Berniebros will go back to screaming about how super delegates are stealing the election.
Two weeks later she will have secured more than half of all the pledged delegates.
And the Berniebros will move the goal posts claiming she hasn't secured 2382 pledged delegates.
Not much you can do about delusional exercises in futility other than to let them keep on their course.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)...the more donations with which to pay his family, as Campaign staffers.
I suppose since he has in the past, and I've been told still, despises the Democratic party, it's one way to use up the finds rather than have any of it go to the DNC.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)If he keeps up the attacks on Hillary much longer the best committee assignment he can hope for in the new Senate will be the Health and Human Services Subcommittee on Underwater Basket Weaving.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)... and the reason is that once he drops out, the entire media framing will shift to be 100% GOP oriented. The only issues the media will touch, will be the issues the GOP cares about.
As long as Bernie is in, the media has to talk about other issues because Hillary and Bernie will both be talking about Dem issues. Once he drops, Hillary will still talk about those issues, but the media will stop caring.
Gothmog
(145,463 posts)Sanders will be unable to overcome the delegate lead