2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton Favorable Rating
Huffington Polster
Currently tracking 378 polls from 40 pollsters
Updated 3 days ago
This combines the latest opinion polls and is updated whenever a new poll is released.
Pollster Trend
Unfavorable 53.6%
Favorable 41.6%
I looked at all 40 polls used to come to these figures. In not one poll, not one single poll out of all 40, did Hillary have a favorable rating. In every poll out of 40 Hillary had an UNFAVORABLE rating.
I read over and over again how Hillary supporters believe she has the presidency all sewn up. Maybe, maybe not.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)all that corporate/wall street/1%/MSM backing, and...
An undeniable advantage in name recognition, and...
One of the biggest political machines this country has ever seen...
Yeah, go figure
And she still polls worse vs GOP candidates than Bernie
JudyM
(29,236 posts)marew
(1,588 posts)peggysue2
(10,828 posts)St Bernard has not been through the GOP's meat grinder for 25 years. Trust me, the Republicans would just love a crack at Bernie Sanders; they've prayed for it. The memes are built in. And Bernie supporters 'think' that the criticism and heat he's felt from Clinton supporters is bad?
Hahaha!
The man would be sliced and diced, death by a thousand cuts once the Republican oppo team zeroed in on him.
As for Hillary? Despite any favorability quotes/polls you care to mention:
Hillary Clinton still stands, strong. As she has since entering the political arena. She doesn't give up. She doesn't stand down.
But please, keep deluding yourself.
marew
(1,588 posts)Do you really believe the GOP will play nice/nice with her? I am sure they will attack her as viciously as possible and she does have some really shady stuff in her background.
I have never seen anything like I've seen recently- increasing numbers of Democrats and Independents are saying they would never vote for Clinton under any circumstances.
"Trump Could Win It All
A new survey shows a sizable number of Democrats ready to defect from Hillary Clinton to Donald Trump."
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2016-01-08/new-poll-shows-donald-trump-is-a-real-threat-to-hillary-clinton
"14 Percent of Democrats Will Not Support Hillary Clinton. Only Bernie Sanders Prevents Low Voter Turnout"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/14-of-democrats-will-not-support-hillary-clinton-only-bernie-sanders-prevents-low-voter-turnout_b_8696238.html
"The Problem With Hillary, Chez, Is I Dont Vote Republican"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/russ-belville/the-problem-with-hillary-clinton_b_9349590.html
"Hillary Clinton Is Better Than the Republican Candidates. But I Still Wouldnt Vote for Her."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ben-spielberg/hillary-clinton-is-better_b_8848632.html
"Democrats fear Bernie Sanders supporters wont back Hillary Clinton if she wins nomination"
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jan/19/democrats-fear-bernie-sanders-supporters-wont-back/?page=all
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!
Logical
(22,457 posts)marew
(1,588 posts)marew
(1,588 posts)Just shows how out of touch Clinton supporters are regarding her history, ongoing change of positions every time the direction of the wind changes, the "deals" she made even while Sec. of State, etc.
Must be really cozy in their self-imposed bubble!
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Her top donors would be happy either way.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)The puppeteers working the Trump and Hillary Show don't care who wins, because they win either way.
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)they learned a lesson with JFK
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)And they both hate the establishment
thesquanderer
(11,986 posts)But sure, it would be nice to be able to run without being behind the 8-ball from the start.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Social scientists learned long ago that asking people about their attitudes about "abstract concepts" (like favorability) have almost no correlation with associated behaviors (like voting).
If you want to predict how people will vote ... and you want to ask them a question that will be a good predictor, you MUST ask them a question about their attitude towards PERFORMING the behavior in question.
This is not dressage ... a competition in which a rider on a Horse competes alone and judges decide what color ribbon to give them.
This is a head to head competition. And Hillary will beat any Republican head to head.
marew
(1,588 posts)I studied the social sciences intently during my undergrad years- social psychology, sociology, etc. This subject area always fascinated me- still does.
But it is also undeniable that innumerable Democrats and Independents are abandoning Hillary on a daily basis. And I do not think that Hillary's silence on DNC chairman Wasserman Schultz aligning herself and supporting the GOP's position on payday loans. This came out weeks ago and many, many Democrats in DC have expressed outrage. I have looked over and over for Hillary to say something- nothing. Silence = complicity.
Not only that: Poll: Nearly 20 Percent of Democrats Would Vote for Trump Over Hillary.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/democrats-vote-for-trump/2016/01/09/id/708859/
And, if Hillary is the nominee, you can bet- though the GOP has little to say right now- they will bring out the big guns regarding Hillary. And there is a lot to bring out!
Just saying- a tiny bit overconfident perhaps?
karynnj
(59,503 posts)I refuse to click on Newsmax, which is extremely right wing. What I question is who did the polling, when, how did they define Democrats and how was the question asked.
I can't imagine that 20% of people who really are Democrats would vote for Trump - especially after the violence and the darker images of the last week or so - though he has been disgusting for years, he has been worse recently. The polls I see have HRC beating Trump - the concern is that she has lost in polls to other Republicans.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)(1) The perception that Sanders is too far left to win.
(2) All of the lies and distortions from team Hillary.
(3) Lack of familiarity with Bernie.
She is an awful candidate, but I think she will beat Trump mainly because you have to be batshit crazy to think Trump should be president and most Americans are not batshit crazy.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)They couldn't possibly come to that conclusion if they knew the truth, right?
Vattel
(9,289 posts)Of course some voters think she would do a good job.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)for Sanders.
Nothing to do with why Clinton has traits they might prefer. Or Clinton's long history in the party.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)(2) All of the lies and distortions from team Hillary.
(3) Lack of familiarity with Bernie.
Maybe they like her enough they really didn't bother paying attention to Bernie.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)I didn't say it was an exhaustive list of the reasons people vote for Clinton over Sanders.
Of course there are other factors. Some are voting for her because she is a woman. Some because they think single-payer would be too expensive. I could go on and on. As for the main reasons I think she is ahead, I do think I left out one: a lot of democrats are not progressive enough to prefer Sanders.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)They much prefer Bernie. But they can't stand Hillary. If Bernie doesn't get the nomination, one or more might support Trump, because they view him as less beholden to Big Money than Hillary.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)internment camps or execution by our law enforcement?
Please congratulate them on their white privilege that $$ is their only concern.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)marew
(1,588 posts)Just shows how out of touch Clinton supporters are!
Must be really cozy in their self-imposed bubble!
Self delusion is the worst delusion.
DavidDvorkin
(19,475 posts)But we voted for him because the alternative was Goldwater and we were rational creatures.
I think there's a real possibility of a similar Democratic landslide this year.
revbones
(3,660 posts)marew
(1,588 posts)I absolute love what's on your posts!
"One Hillary supporter said to the other "I can't believe Republicans get people to vote against their own interests!" Then pulls lever for Hillary..."
Thank you for my biggest laugh of the day!
Bleacher Creature
(11,256 posts)I suspect a lot of the people on the unfavorable side are Bernie supporters. Not a majority, but certainly enough to get her above water.
Once Bernie endorses her, and speaks at the convention on her behalf, that number is going to go way down.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)For the past quarter of a century, the Republicans have spent millions to smear Hillary and her husband. Hating them is a birthright among Republicans. So, 40% of that 53.6% are Republicans.
Match that up against Trump. He has higher unfavorables, not because a political party has spent millions to smear him in the past 25 years, rather, based on his sickening performance over the past 6 months.
A BIG difference IMO.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)How many Republicans should we expect to vote for our Democratic candidate?
Besides all the women?
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Blanks
(4,835 posts)She sat in a Benghazi hearing for 11 hours and they pretty much dropped it.
Let's see her go one on one with any republican candidate. She's tough as nails. She'll kick ass in the general election.
They don't have any dirt in reserve for her.