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Hillary Supporters: Please read this. (Original Post) seekthetruth Mar 2016 OP
Nope. Don't care! leftofcool Mar 2016 #1
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Just so you know we just voted to leave this comment from being Hid , Welcome to DU !!! orpupilofnature57 Mar 2016 #19
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Thank! seekthetruth Mar 2016 #34
. one_voice Mar 2016 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #25
My millennials one_voice Mar 2016 #29
You sure ? orpupilofnature57 Mar 2016 #20
OK jehop61 Mar 2016 #2
It's actually a very good site pinebox Mar 2016 #24
Hillary supporters don't care. revbones Mar 2016 #26
It's kind of sad pinebox Mar 2016 #27
True seekthetruth Mar 2016 #30
Hillary will prevail. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #3
Hope not. seekthetruth Mar 2016 #35
Interesting chart there. surrealAmerican Mar 2016 #4
After the flip we just saw on superdelegates, I don't believe that for a minute. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #6
Thank Tad Devine redstateblues Mar 2016 #15
Is asking super-delegates to vote the way their constituents vote ... surrealAmerican Mar 2016 #21
Amen. desmiller Mar 2016 #7
Agreed Kittycat Mar 2016 #9
TLDR- disreputable and unreliable source, stopped reading. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #5
I simply don't plan on all of Sanders voters voting for Clinton. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #8
Citizens United was an abomination Kittycat Mar 2016 #10
Citizens United sucked but it should not be overturned. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #17
Really? seekthetruth Mar 2016 #31
Yes, really. Nt NCTraveler Mar 2016 #33
Absolutely no logical sense. seekthetruth Mar 2016 #32
I really don't know what you are saying here. Nt NCTraveler Mar 2016 #36
Moneyed interests. seekthetruth Mar 2016 #37
Partisan b.s. MoonRiver Mar 2016 #11
Revolutions can be painful. Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #12
They are all for making Bernie artislife Mar 2016 #38
Nah, I'll pass Progressive dog Mar 2016 #13
Nothing new... both the author and his website back Bernie Sanders. procon Mar 2016 #14
They probably won't read it, and if they do, it won't matter because... Binkie The Clown Mar 2016 #18
Agreed lmbradford Mar 2016 #28

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Response to orpupilofnature57 (Reply #19)

Response to one_voice (Reply #23)

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
29. My millennials
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:40 PM
Mar 2016

paid for college. One is a Bernie supporter one a Hillary supporter. Both will vote for the eventual Dem. nom.

That 'stuff'' won't work on me. Try again.

jehop61

(1,735 posts)
2. OK
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:35 PM
Mar 2016

read it as per your order. Found I tend to discount anything coming from something called US Uncut. Happy now?

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
26. Hillary supporters don't care.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:28 PM
Mar 2016

If it's not as pro-Hillary as Blue Nation Review (now owned by her super-PAC and just a propaganda outfit for her), then they will just discredit any source as right-wing or such.

Ignorance is truly bliss for some.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
27. It's kind of sad
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:32 PM
Mar 2016

I learned to look at the different sides of an argument. That is how you learn. Heck my other half is a 2A loving Libertarian. We get along just fine. Tolerance these days seems to be a rare thing, on both sides of the aisle.

 

seekthetruth

(504 posts)
30. True
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:35 AM
Mar 2016

Tolerance for those on the opposing side. I'm all for tolerating and working with conservatives, but when during the primary season we're voting for someone to represent our values, someone who clearly takes money from special interests, supports fracking when the climate is morphing into something so different, we can't afford to support a candidate agreeable to such tendencies that oppose such values. Makes no sense. Are you for or against saving the planet? No in between. This problem, whether you know, has been going on for so long. We're about to lose our current levelbof civilization, potentially, and we're going to support one who takes money from oil companies? No logical sense at all.

I get it about Sanders. He's not someone who is so well polished. He's seems bitter and angry a lot of the time. I don't care about looks. I look for substance. Character. At every turn, I see a politician when I see Hillary. I see the established connection with corporations and campaigning, someone who is adept at playing the game. Sure, we need to work with those who don't agree with us, but we need to demonstrate our values as liberals before Democrats. We need to question everything, not settle.

Here's what I mean. Sanders is coming to Seattle tomorrow for a public speech at Key Arena. He's an inspiring speaker. Clinton's only planned visit, as far as I've read, is to attend a private fund raiser in the swaky suburb of Medina.

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/hillary-clinton-coming-to-town-for-march-22-fundraiser/

surrealAmerican

(11,360 posts)
4. Interesting chart there.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:37 PM
Mar 2016

Here's a good quote:

Asking the supporters of the anti-Wall Street candidate who rejects Super PACs to suddenly back a pro-Wall Street candidate who embraces the Super PAC system would be asking them to betray their core values.
 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
6. After the flip we just saw on superdelegates, I don't believe that for a minute.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:40 PM
Mar 2016

Certain things are undemocratic and unfathomable until they become useful.

surrealAmerican

(11,360 posts)
21. Is asking super-delegates to vote the way their constituents vote ...
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:15 PM
Mar 2016

... more democratic, or less democratic?

The super-delegate system is inherently undemocratic.

I suppose he might have asked all the supers to just not vote, but I'm not sure that's even an option given the system we have.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
8. I simply don't plan on all of Sanders voters voting for Clinton.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:42 PM
Mar 2016

That would be foolish to think considering comments like this from people posting here.

"As much as I despair thinking of a President Trump, if SHE gets the nomination I will look forward to seeing her lose."

I think there is zero chance that person will vote for Clinton. I also think is says not one single thing about Clintons chances in the GE.

Clinton and her supporters are going to work for every vote and all signs point to her being able to beat Trump. It's not going to be easy.

Kittycat

(10,493 posts)
10. Citizens United was an abomination
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:47 PM
Mar 2016

A major outcry went out to stop it, and when the ruling came down - the call was clear that we wanted it overturned. What made the party think, Hillary think, that running a campaign at the corporate trough was a good idea? She is completely, unabashedly, unapologetic and in our face over it. And her history only shows us that it will not be in our favor. I'll never cast a vote for Trump. But how could our party ever expect us to support her? Why did they do this?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
17. Citizens United sucked but it should not be overturned.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:55 PM
Mar 2016

Campaign finance laws need to be rewritten. That is the truth of it. The thought of overturning CU goes against all thoughts on how the judiciary works and is nothing more than a false narrative. Campaign finance needs to be revisited by the legislative branch, not the judiciary. I wish people really understood claiming it needs to be overturned is nothing more than propaganda. Democratic propaganda coming from our side in order to rally votes. It isn't a Sanders thing, it is a Democrat thing. Meanwhile it gives legislators a pass on what is their job.

 

seekthetruth

(504 posts)
32. Absolutely no logical sense.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:38 AM
Mar 2016

Money and such expensive campaigns can't possibly need friendly ties with certain industries, no?

 

seekthetruth

(504 posts)
37. Moneyed interests.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:45 AM
Mar 2016

Millions wouldn't be given for no existence of quid pro quo agreements. One can't possibly be so blind to not see that the money given to political campaigns in this country don't show evidence of influence.

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
12. Revolutions can be painful.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:48 PM
Mar 2016

If Right Wing, DLC Third Way, Blue Dog Dems think we will all just fall in line - like every time in the past - there is no reason for them to change. Revolutions can be painful.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
38. They are all for making Bernie
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:13 AM
Mar 2016

"earn" the votes but h gets a pass? Oh no, I really cannot see how she could earn my vote. I am surprised at how hard a "no" it feels when I ask myself what would it take.

procon

(15,805 posts)
14. Nothing new... both the author and his website back Bernie Sanders.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:52 PM
Mar 2016

Good for him. Now tell me why is it so important to you that I have to care why you, or anyone else, chooses to support a particular candidate?

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
18. They probably won't read it, and if they do, it won't matter because...
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:04 PM
Mar 2016

... the more deeply committed one is to one's delusions the more strenuously one will defend those delusions from reality. Those few who do read it will find some excuse to claim it's all a lie.

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