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Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 05:31 PM Mar 2016

You Question Bernie? You QUESTION BERNIE!!?? Weeeee Don't NEED No stinking questioners of Bernie!!!!

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/02/i-like-bernie-sanders-his-supporters-not-so-much-berniebro


I’m not #FeelingTheBern anymore. I’m on Bernie Sanders’ side policy-wise. I agree with many more of his positions than I do Hillary Clinton’s. I donated money to his campaign last year and I intend to vote for him in the Ohio primary in March. Still, the “Berniebro” phenomenon has left me feeling, well, Berned-out.


I am referring to a certain demographic of Sanders supporter – white and male – who accuses anyone who’s not #FeelingTheBern of being a member of the “Establishment.”

It’s gotten bad enough that Bernie Sanders’ campaign rapid response director had to speak up about it on Twitter. It’s gotten bad enough that, among my circle of friends (who are mostly millennials about evenly split between supporting Clinton and Sanders in the primary), the “Berniebro” phenomenon immediately comes up whenever the election comes up.

It’s not a new pattern. Remember the Obamatons back in 2008, who declared Hillary Clinton to be everything from a reincarnated Margaret Thatcher to Ronald Reagan in a pantsuit – despite the fact that Clinton had a near identical voting record to Obama’s and actually ran to his left on issues like healthcare.

The worst trait of fundamentalists is their insistence that anyone who’s not on board with their revolution is part of a coordinated conspiracy to silence and suppress that revolution. You can watch in real time as any progressive public figure who refuses to openly endorse Sanders – whether or not they also endorse Clinton – gets bombarded by wave after wave of accusations of being on the take.
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IF there's one feature of Sanders supporters that cannot be denied is their overwhelming tendency to demonize anybody who disagrees with their choice of candidate. And they of course will say the author, (and myself for posting this article) are obviously deviant psychopathic, evil tools of the establishment - and enemies of humankind. I would make a rough estimate of the percentage of pro-Bernie posts which are baseless attacks on Hillary Clinton's decency, character and humanity ---- "and the same goes for any of you creeps who support her too!!"... would be the usual refrain.

HOw many times can anybody remember a pro-Bernie post that actually presented his policy proposals or plans (has he put any of these things into writing?). Yeah, that's what I thought. I remember their has been a time or two where a pro-Bernie post presented his ideas or proposals but they were damn few and far between.

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You Question Bernie? You QUESTION BERNIE!!?? Weeeee Don't NEED No stinking questioners of Bernie!!!! (Original Post) Bill USA Mar 2016 OP
Pro-Clinton posts are never about policy, they're about Sanders supporters and Trump fear-mongering. arcane1 Mar 2016 #1
Amen. There is pattern to these, there are so many of them pdsimdars Mar 2016 #7
I know! pot meet kettle dana_b Mar 2016 #21
+1 Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #32
Oh, for fuck's sake...has he put anything into writing? Now you are just trying to provoke. djean111 Mar 2016 #2
Thanks for outing yourself Fairgo Mar 2016 #3
No, we don't need no questioners... dchill Mar 2016 #4
The author of that article is demonizing people who demonize people, because he/she hates that? surrealAmerican Mar 2016 #5
example - simple parroting of GOP bullshit about HRC, just nonsense... Bill USA Mar 2016 #6
As they say, dry that OP out and you could fertilize the lawn with it. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #8
Yay it's recycling day again! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author PonyUp Mar 2016 #12
That was funny pdsimdars Mar 2016 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author PonyUp Mar 2016 #10
As long as you're here posting . . could you please explain why Hillary got Bill to veto pdsimdars Mar 2016 #11
That's a question related to actual policy, so it will likely go unanswered. n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #15
I had problems finding Eko Mar 2016 #19
Huh, Eko Mar 2016 #20
A bill that never became law and the one that did boston bean Mar 2016 #29
Blah blah blah Hissyspit Mar 2016 #14
There is a lot of truth to this kcr Mar 2016 #16
And then his supporters here prove your point exactly MaggieD Mar 2016 #17
True authoritarians. frazzled Mar 2016 #18
lol. Expecting a candidate to support certain policies TDale313 Mar 2016 #31
...intend to vote for Bernie in Ohio? Isn't it over? snowy owl Mar 2016 #22
Blah,blah,blah,blah,blah,blah,blah,blah,blah,blah,blah Armstead Mar 2016 #23
Ironically, this is one of the most sensible posts here. JudyM Mar 2016 #24
“I like your Bernie, I do not like your Berniebros. Your Berniebros are so unlike your Bernie.” Dem2 Mar 2016 #25
Arthur Chu Entitled to His Opinion noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #26
What's that saying? Great minds talk about ideas, small minds talk about people and small minds Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #27
Have a snack UglyGreed Mar 2016 #28
Berners - L I S. jillan Mar 2016 #30
Obama didn't vote for the Iraq War, Hillary did. That was enough for me, in 2008*. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #33
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
1. Pro-Clinton posts are never about policy, they're about Sanders supporters and Trump fear-mongering.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 05:33 PM
Mar 2016
 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
7. Amen. There is pattern to these, there are so many of them
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 05:47 PM
Mar 2016

This one is the "I WAS a Bernie supporter . .until . . . "
Please spare us.
But you are right, NEVER AN ISSUE OR POLICY DIFFERENCE.

The reason for that is that Hillary has changed all of her policies to match Bernie's because he is speaking to the people's needs.

surrealAmerican

(11,360 posts)
5. The author of that article is demonizing people who demonize people, because he/she hates that?
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 05:42 PM
Mar 2016

This person needs a mirror.

Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #9)

Response to Bill USA (Original post)

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
11. As long as you're here posting . . could you please explain why Hillary got Bill to veto
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 05:52 PM
Mar 2016

that HORRIBLE bankruptcy bill. Then took $140,000 from Wall Street to run for Senate and then her FIRST vote was to vote FOR that same bill she knew was so HORRIBLE.
I mean, to the casual observer, it sure looks like money caused her to change her vote. How do you explain it? Anyone? Anyone? Beuler?

Eko

(7,281 posts)
19. I had problems finding
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:18 PM
Mar 2016

the "HORRIBLE bankruptcy bill", can you tell me what bill number it is? Also, I could not find where she got Bill to veto that bill, can you share some links or something that shows that? I did find her very first vote which was U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 107th Congress - 1st Session link http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=1&vote=00001 where she voted yes to the Nomination, Confirmation of Mitchell E. Daniels to be Director of the O.M.B. Is that the vote you are talking about? Or are you talking about her tenth vote (the previous ones were confirmations, so I skipped those) on bill S.248 which was "A bill to amend the Admiral James W. Nance and Meg Donovan Foreign Relations Authorization Act" which seems to deal with the UN's maximum budget to a peace keeping army? I hate to say it, but to the casual observer that can navigate the internet it sure looks like at the very least your claims don't hold, well, anything. Beuler?

Eko

(7,281 posts)
20. Huh,
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 08:20 PM
Mar 2016

I thought you would have responded back already. Im sure you are just busy doing other posts here and haven't had the time to adequately respond. I'm positive you are not the type of person to post something controversial about something and then just run away sowing trouble and false information elsewhere. Positive.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
29. A bill that never became law and the one that did
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 04:32 PM
Mar 2016

She was in the hospital with her husband who was having heart problems and wrote a press release saying she would have voted against it if she were there.

Good enough for you???

kcr

(15,315 posts)
16. There is a lot of truth to this
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 06:05 PM
Mar 2016

There has been a lot of Hillary attacking and when you point that out, particularly the unfair attacks, you're immediately suspect. It's too bad because it tends to overshadow the message. People remember the attacks and the drama.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
18. True authoritarians.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 06:30 PM
Mar 2016

We even had a post demanding a multiple-point pledge to adopt Sanders initiatives in exchange for possible support in November. Our way or the highway.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
31. lol. Expecting a candidate to support certain policies
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 04:39 PM
Mar 2016

If you intend to support them is authoritarian but screaming support Hillary or else every other post or trying to get people banned for daring to question her is not. The Hillary campaign and its supporters have incredibly authoritarian and very my way or the highway. They're apoplectic that people are daring to challenge the chosen one.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
22. ...intend to vote for Bernie in Ohio? Isn't it over?
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:50 PM
Mar 2016

Hey, maybe there's one I don't know about. I'm wondering how authentic this post is?

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
23. Blah,blah,blah,blah,blah,blah,blah,blah,blah,blah,blah
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:07 PM
Mar 2016

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Dem2

(8,168 posts)
25. “I like your Bernie, I do not like your Berniebros. Your Berniebros are so unlike your Bernie.”
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 04:24 PM
Mar 2016

Amen.

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
26. Arthur Chu Entitled to His Opinion
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 04:27 PM
Mar 2016

The writer of this piece on the Guardian is Arthur Chu (see below). Mr. Chu is entitled to his opinion. Mine differs from his.


Arthur Chu is a voiceover artist and writer based in Ohio. He is the fourth all-time highest earning champion on the US trivia show Jeopardy! Follow him on Twitter: @arthur_affect
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
27. What's that saying? Great minds talk about ideas, small minds talk about people and small minds
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 04:30 PM
Mar 2016

trying to rat fuck an election talk about Bernie supporters. Something like that.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
33. Obama didn't vote for the Iraq War, Hillary did. That was enough for me, in 2008*.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 06:53 PM
Mar 2016

"obamatons", lol.

Everyone is wrong except Hillary supporters, I guess. They're perfect.



* and yes, I know he wasn't in the Senate when it came up. Still, she voted for it and he didn't have that albatross.

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