Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 01:31 AM Mar 2016

Hillary Clinton Lays Out Her Own Middle East Approach — And It’s Not Obama’s


" WASHINGTON — After her landslide loss in the New Hampshire primary last month, Hillary Clinton responded by tying herself tightly to President Barack Obama and slamming her opponent, Bernie Sanders, for past criticism of the president.

That embrace, though, has not extended beyond U.S. shores. On Monday, Clinton used her speech before the American Israel Public Affairs Committee to continue to lay down a foreign policy vision starkly at odds with the Obama doctrine of restraint and retrenchment. Clinton sent a clear signal: Her presidency would replace reluctance to intervene and get bogged down in Middle East conflicts with a hawkish approach — one her aides have previously asked reporters to describe as “muscular.”

Clinton, in her AIPAC speech, repeated and, in some cases, put a finer point on arguments she advancced in the fall at a major Brookings Institute speech, and in December at the Saban Forum. But set against the backdrop of a recent profile of Obama’s foreign policy doctrine by The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg, as well as the decision by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to skip AIPAC’s gathering while Obama traveled to Cuba, the daylight between the world views of Clinton and Obama was that much more apparent. "

“Obama’s goal of ‘ending the mindset’ that got us into Iraq inspired a lot of progressives,” said Matt Duss, a foreign policy analyst at the progressive Foundation for Middle East Peace. “Apart from support for the Iran agreement, I didn’t hear anything from Clinton that suggests that she sees that mindset as a problem.”

Clinton, without naming the president, tweaked Obama for his strained relationship with Netanyahu. “One of the first things I’ll do in office is invite the Israeli prime minister to visit the White House,” she offered to raucous applause."

Why people still think that Hillary has any interest in continuing Obama's legacy is beyond me. It should be obvious that she's just waiting to get to the general and shed him. Just my two cents.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/hillary-clinton-middle-east_us_56f06ab2e4b09bf44a9e3177
16 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Hillary Clinton Lays Out Her Own Middle East Approach — And It’s Not Obama’s (Original Post) NWCorona Mar 2016 OP
The embrace of Obama was just a political ploy to win votes. Broward Mar 2016 #1
Yup! NWCorona Mar 2016 #2
Of course Ned_Devine Mar 2016 #3
She will do it the moment she thinks the general is securely here to run on Kittycat Mar 2016 #4
Sadly this is true NWCorona Mar 2016 #10
Still a neocon after all these years... pandora nm Mar 2016 #5
She hides behind Obama's name far too much. desmiller Mar 2016 #6
....... desmiller Mar 2016 #7
She'll be more of a hawk than the "awful legacy" of the last 8 years jfern Mar 2016 #8
She's a neocon CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #9
What Did She Say About Iran And The Deal That Obama & Kerry Fostered?....nt global1 Mar 2016 #11
Ha, I need to watch Hillary's speech again! NWCorona Mar 2016 #12
It's Netanyahu's...way to go South Carolina!! You sure know how to pick 'em Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #13
The do stupid shit camp jakeXT Mar 2016 #14
"muscular" equals militarist. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #15
She is a one-trick ungulate: war war war! Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #16

desmiller

(747 posts)
6. She hides behind Obama's name far too much.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 01:39 AM
Mar 2016

And the blind supporters are just eating it up, like ice cream cake.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
9. She's a neocon
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 01:43 AM
Mar 2016

She selected Robert Kagan to be one of her Middle East foreign-policy advisers, while she was Secretary of State.

Robert Kagan, the guy who founded the neocon movement. The godfather of the PNAC set, who crafted out a plan to decimate select Middle East countries (via war and destabilization) and then take control and plunder those countries for profit.

Yep. That Robert Kagan.

Who in their right mind picks the founder of the neocons to be their adviser????

Kagan must have been impressed while "advising" Hillary during her Sec of State tenure. He endorsed her for President a few weeks ago. https://consortiumnews.com/2016/02/25/neocon-kagan-endorses-hillary-clinton/

That's majorly f'd up.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
14. The do stupid shit camp
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 02:05 AM
Mar 2016

When The Atlantic published this statement, and also published Clinton’s assessment that “great nations need organizing principles, and?‘Don’t do stupid stuff’ is not an organizing principle,” Obama became “rip-shit angry,” according to one of his senior advisers. The president did not understand how “Don’t do stupid shit” could be considered a controversial slogan. Ben Rhodes recalls that “the questions we were asking in the White House were ‘Who exactly is in the stupid-shit caucus? Who is pro–stupid shit?’?” The Iraq invasion, Obama believed, should have taught Democratic interventionists like Clinton, who had voted for its authorization, the dangers of doing stupid shit. (Clinton quickly apologized to Obama for her comments, and a Clinton spokesman announced that the two would “hug it out” on Martha’s Vineyard when they crossed paths there later.)

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/04/the-obama-doctrine/471525/

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
15. "muscular" equals militarist.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 02:07 AM
Mar 2016

Basically, HRC's Middle East policy will be Cheney's.

There is no way get more hawkish than Obama on the Middle East and still be distuinguishable from the last Republican presidency.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
16. She is a one-trick ungulate: war war war!
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 05:42 AM
Mar 2016

I want my "pony"! I want Bernie! He is not just reliable, he knows how to conduct a sane foreign policy.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»Hillary Clinton Lays Out ...