2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton Lays Out Her Own Middle East Approach — And It’s Not Obama’s
" WASHINGTON After her landslide loss in the New Hampshire primary last month, Hillary Clinton responded by tying herself tightly to President Barack Obama and slamming her opponent, Bernie Sanders, for past criticism of the president.
That embrace, though, has not extended beyond U.S. shores. On Monday, Clinton used her speech before the American Israel Public Affairs Committee to continue to lay down a foreign policy vision starkly at odds with the Obama doctrine of restraint and retrenchment. Clinton sent a clear signal: Her presidency would replace reluctance to intervene and get bogged down in Middle East conflicts with a hawkish approach one her aides have previously asked reporters to describe as muscular.
Clinton, in her AIPAC speech, repeated and, in some cases, put a finer point on arguments she advancced in the fall at a major Brookings Institute speech, and in December at the Saban Forum. But set against the backdrop of a recent profile of Obamas foreign policy doctrine by The Atlantics Jeffrey Goldberg, as well as the decision by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to skip AIPACs gathering while Obama traveled to Cuba, the daylight between the world views of Clinton and Obama was that much more apparent. "
Obamas goal of ending the mindset that got us into Iraq inspired a lot of progressives, said Matt Duss, a foreign policy analyst at the progressive Foundation for Middle East Peace. Apart from support for the Iran agreement, I didnt hear anything from Clinton that suggests that she sees that mindset as a problem.
Clinton, without naming the president, tweaked Obama for his strained relationship with Netanyahu. One of the first things Ill do in office is invite the Israeli prime minister to visit the White House, she offered to raucous applause."
Why people still think that Hillary has any interest in continuing Obama's legacy is beyond me. It should be obvious that she's just waiting to get to the general and shed him. Just my two cents.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/hillary-clinton-middle-east_us_56f06ab2e4b09bf44a9e3177
Broward
(1,976 posts)It couldn't have been more obvious.
Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)Kittycat
(10,493 posts)Our very own Cheney.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)pandora nm
(63 posts)Disgusting and scary!
desmiller
(747 posts)And the blind supporters are just eating it up, like ice cream cake.
jfern
(5,204 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)She selected Robert Kagan to be one of her Middle East foreign-policy advisers, while she was Secretary of State.
Robert Kagan, the guy who founded the neocon movement. The godfather of the PNAC set, who crafted out a plan to decimate select Middle East countries (via war and destabilization) and then take control and plunder those countries for profit.
Yep. That Robert Kagan.
Who in their right mind picks the founder of the neocons to be their adviser????
Kagan must have been impressed while "advising" Hillary during her Sec of State tenure. He endorsed her for President a few weeks ago. https://consortiumnews.com/2016/02/25/neocon-kagan-endorses-hillary-clinton/
That's majorly f'd up.
global1
(25,242 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)jakeXT
(10,575 posts)When The Atlantic published this statement, and also published Clintons assessment that great nations need organizing principles, and?Dont do stupid stuff is not an organizing principle, Obama became rip-shit angry, according to one of his senior advisers. The president did not understand how Dont do stupid shit could be considered a controversial slogan. Ben Rhodes recalls that the questions we were asking in the White House were Who exactly is in the stupid-shit caucus? Who is prostupid shit?? The Iraq invasion, Obama believed, should have taught Democratic interventionists like Clinton, who had voted for its authorization, the dangers of doing stupid shit. (Clinton quickly apologized to Obama for her comments, and a Clinton spokesman announced that the two would hug it out on Marthas Vineyard when they crossed paths there later.)
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/04/the-obama-doctrine/471525/
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Basically, HRC's Middle East policy will be Cheney's.
There is no way get more hawkish than Obama on the Middle East and still be distuinguishable from the last Republican presidency.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)I want my "pony"! I want Bernie! He is not just reliable, he knows how to conduct a sane foreign policy.