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blueintelligentsia

(507 posts)
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 05:15 PM Mar 2016

Poll regarding the alleged Arizona voter fraud and suppression yesterday.

Do you think the democratic party should investigate the allegations?

If yes, here is a petition to the President to do so (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/investigate-voter-fraud-and-voter-suppression-arizona-3222016-democratic-party).


56 votes, 2 passes | Time left: Unlimited
Yes
54 (96%)
No
2 (4%)
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Poll regarding the alleged Arizona voter fraud and suppression yesterday. (Original Post) blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 OP
I think the state should. Agschmid Mar 2016 #1
Early as in in the morning or Absentee? blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #13
It's not really "absentee" but sort of. Agschmid Mar 2016 #16
So they could skip the lines... blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #21
For many people voting on the day of election is special. Paka Mar 2016 #39
Yes. I think Democrats should ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #2
Do you know of any? Post links please. blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #3
Any whats? 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #4
what you said... blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #5
Not that I know of ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #20
and the state government .i disagree about petition though JI7 Mar 2016 #8
True. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #22
For better or worse, the petition alerts the WhiteHouse, which.. blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #23
it's the state government that sets this up. not the party JI7 Mar 2016 #24
Doesn't the party run the state government? What's your point? blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #27
no JI7 Mar 2016 #31
no to both? blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #32
If you pass.... blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #6
I said mine. I think the state or federal government should. Agschmid Mar 2016 #7
You passed? What's the WRA? blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #9
Sorry iPhone typo... "VRA" Agschmid Mar 2016 #11
Wouldn't the petition help to shine a spotlight on the VRA? blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #14
Sure, but some people have been speaking about it for months... Agschmid Mar 2016 #17
I signed earlier, thanks! Kick for those who may not have seen it. haikugal Mar 2016 #10
I think an independent prosecutor should investigate. Vincardog Mar 2016 #12
Like the ACLU? blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #15
Not the ACLU they have no prosecutorial nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #18
Appointed by the DOJ and approved by the senate... blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #28
Sure. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #19
Sure as in this is an excuse? Or sure this might actually be a serious issue? blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #25
Sure as in this is a serious issue. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #26
Superb blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #29
If yes or no, what are your reasons? blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #30
This poll should be 100% Yes EndElectoral Mar 2016 #33
Signed, but want to note that the term "voter fraud" is problematic. pat_k Mar 2016 #34
I said, "alleged voter fraud" and you're wrong. pantsonfire Mar 2016 #40
"Election fraud",and "vote rigging",do not equal "voter fraud" pat_k Mar 2016 #41
The Mayor has sent a letter to Loretta Lynch to investigate. jillan Mar 2016 #35
Yes, although I would prefer a parallel investigation by an entity stranger81 Mar 2016 #36
Damn straight they should. blackspade Mar 2016 #37
The Democratic Party should be investigated, but not by itself. DamnYankeeInHouston Mar 2016 #38

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
1. I think the state should.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 05:15 PM
Mar 2016

A whole lot of people voted from both sides yesterday, it effected everyone.

I'd also be curious as to why more folks didn't vote early.

 

blueintelligentsia

(507 posts)
13. Early as in in the morning or Absentee?
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 05:41 PM
Mar 2016

Last edited Thu Mar 24, 2016, 02:09 AM - Edit history (1)

Maybe they had to work early? Perhaps they prefer to vote in person?

 

blueintelligentsia

(507 posts)
21. So they could skip the lines...
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 05:57 PM
Mar 2016

I don't think the public thought the lines were going to be that long (they weren't well informed) that the polling stations were reduced from 400 (2008) to 200 (2012) to 60 yesterday. For a county with 50% of the state's vote, you'd think 60 polling stations wouldn't be enough. VRA decimation and Republican voter suppression.

Paka

(2,760 posts)
39. For many people voting on the day of election is special.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:17 PM
Mar 2016

I used to love going to the polls and seeing some of my neighbors and marking a tangible paper ballot. I could feel good about myself for being involved. It's a very special high.

It saddened me when I had to begin voting absentee ballot because I was out-of-the-country so frequently. I adapted, but it still isn't the same as doing it in person on election day.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
2. Yes. I think Democrats should ...
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 05:21 PM
Mar 2016

and they are.

I would recommend that the petition go to the DoJ or FBI; rather than, the Whitehouse, though.

 

blueintelligentsia

(507 posts)
5. what you said...
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 05:33 PM
Mar 2016
I would recommend that the petition go to the DoJ or FBI; rather than, the Whitehouse, though.
....do they have online petitions?

JI7

(89,311 posts)
8. and the state government .i disagree about petition though
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 05:37 PM
Mar 2016

I think letters and calls might be better.

The state government decides these things.

 

blueintelligentsia

(507 posts)
23. For better or worse, the petition alerts the WhiteHouse, which..
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 05:58 PM
Mar 2016

hopefully will put more pressure on the state democratic party.

 

blueintelligentsia

(507 posts)
27. Doesn't the party run the state government? What's your point?
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 06:04 PM
Mar 2016

The state government is Republican and won't do anything?

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
7. I said mine. I think the state or federal government should.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 05:35 PM
Mar 2016

The party can't do much here, the VRA was decimated.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
18. Not the ACLU they have no prosecutorial
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 05:55 PM
Mar 2016

Authority. An independent prosecutor appointed by the DOJ. (For the record, there is a better chance of a snow storm in hell I am told)

 

blueintelligentsia

(507 posts)
25. Sure as in this is an excuse? Or sure this might actually be a serious issue?
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 06:02 PM
Mar 2016

For both Democratic candidates.

The polling stations in Maricopa were reduced from 400 (2008) to 200 (2012) and 60 (2016). Maricopa is 50% of the democratic vote, this number of polling stations will not help in the GE.

 

blueintelligentsia

(507 posts)
30. If yes or no, what are your reasons?
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 06:07 PM
Mar 2016

TBH, I'm more interested in why DU members cast No votes?
Either way, voice your opinion.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
34. Signed, but want to note that the term "voter fraud" is problematic.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:55 PM
Mar 2016

I signed, because the intention is clear, but I want to note that the term "voter fraud" is a problem.

It's a term used by Republicans to justify onerous and unnecessary ID checks to prevent voters from committing fraud, something that no investigation has actually found to be a problem.

Would be better to call for investigation of the systematic suppression of voters in AZ.

And, I'm googling to find a good petition calling on the DNC to act (or even better yet, the DNC AND RNC). This was a presidential preference election designed to appoint delegates to the respective conventions. The parties should be doing everything they can to ensure that every eligible voter can easily cast their ballot for their preferred nominee, and have that ballot accurately counted.

 

pantsonfire

(1,306 posts)
40. I said, "alleged voter fraud" and you're wrong.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:25 PM
Mar 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_fraud

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017343008

It's a term used by Republicans to justify onerous and unnecessary ID checks to prevent voters from committing fraud, something that no investigation has actually found to be a problem.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
41. "Election fraud",and "vote rigging",do not equal "voter fraud"
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:06 PM
Mar 2016

Just pointing out how the term is used (perhaps misused) by republicans. It makes it a problematc term for us to use.

stranger81

(2,345 posts)
36. Yes, although I would prefer a parallel investigation by an entity
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:00 PM
Mar 2016

that doesn't have its thumb on the scale of the Democratic primary election.

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