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Bernie Beats Hillary For First Time In New National Poll Released March 24! (Original Post) imagine2015 Mar 2016 OP
K&R. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #1
Actually, this is the second one I've seen... hootinholler Mar 2016 #2
Oh brother cosmicone Mar 2016 #3
Simon & Garfunkel pdsimdars Mar 2016 #4
Seems appropriate! imagine2015 Mar 2016 #5
The More People See of Hillary..... The More People See Of Bernie... Clarity and Authenticity CorporatistNation Mar 2016 #20
This was just among registered Democrats. It didn't include independents! imagine2015 Mar 2016 #6
Actually it Does Include Independents Who Have or Will vote in Democratic Primary Stallion Mar 2016 #8
No. The poll does not even mention Independents and clearly states it was "Democratic voters" imagine2015 Mar 2016 #11
That's Incorrect- Includes Likely Paricipants or Those Already Partipants in Democratic Primary Stallion Mar 2016 #12
And in some of the primaries held only registered Democrats may participate. Isn't that correct? imagine2015 Mar 2016 #13
That's correct-That's the way I Understood it. Stallion Mar 2016 #14
Imagine where he'd be without the media blackout... ReallyIAmAnOptimist Mar 2016 #7
Whoa now calguy Mar 2016 #19
K&R amborin Mar 2016 #9
Not even true, Bernie was ahead of Hillary by 3 in a poll not long ago Dem2 Mar 2016 #10
"same Fox poll went from +3 Bernie last month to +13 Hillary this month" !!!! imagine2015 Mar 2016 #15
Last month people were saying "Fox wants Bernie to win" Dem2 Mar 2016 #17
That's a mighty fine cherry crop you're cultivating today Tarc Mar 2016 #16
The poll trend over the past several months shows Bernie catching up to Hillary. imagine2015 Mar 2016 #18
For weekend DU poll watchers. imagine2015 Mar 2016 #21
 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
3. Oh brother
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 09:48 AM
Mar 2016

By the way, your post needs a few bouncies like this:



That gives that morale boosting feeling whilst the looming of impending doom.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
4. Simon & Garfunkel
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 09:54 AM
Mar 2016

I can hear it now, a song for the Hillary supporters. . . . .

Slip sliding away, slip sliding away
You know the nearer your destination
The more you're slip sliding away

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
20. The More People See of Hillary..... The More People See Of Bernie... Clarity and Authenticity
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 08:52 PM
Mar 2016

and the stark contrast between the two begins to take hold... It is happening as we speak and the reaction is reflected in the ... election "inconsistencies." know what I mean?

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
8. Actually it Does Include Independents Who Have or Will vote in Democratic Primary
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:08 AM
Mar 2016

"Of the 311 people who indicated that they have voted or will vote in their state's Democratic primary or caucus, 49 percent said they support Sanders, while 48 percent indicated that they prefer Clinton and the remaining 3 percent said they are not sure."




Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/poll-who-is-winning-democratic-race-221185#ixzz43pij3O6g
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imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
11. No. The poll does not even mention Independents and clearly states it was "Democratic voters"
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 01:57 PM
Mar 2016

"Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are effectively tied among Democratic voters, according to the results of a Bloomberg Politics poll released Thursday.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/poll-who-is-winning-democratic-race-221185#ixzz43qOjvGKY

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
12. That's Incorrect- Includes Likely Paricipants or Those Already Partipants in Democratic Primary
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 02:25 PM
Mar 2016

Asked only of likely participants or those who have already participated in the 2016 Democratic primaries or caucuses; n=311. MoE: ± 5.6 percentage points.

Democratic voters refers to those who voted in Democratic primary. there is absolutely no mention of registered Democrats

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
13. And in some of the primaries held only registered Democrats may participate. Isn't that correct?
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 03:46 PM
Mar 2016

Registered Independents and registered Republicans may not vote for a Democrat in closed primaries.

Open primaries permit any registered voters to participate in any Democratic primary.

In some cases a person may register as a Democrat when they vote in a primary.
7. Imagine where he'd be without the media blackout...
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 10:21 AM
Mar 2016

...or Social Media!

The reality is is that the Dem Presidential Candidates are on track for a virtual tie in EARNED delegates, and if the West really gets fired up we can put him over the top.

If the Primary had run in reverse, and Sanders was leading by a few hundred delegates NOONE would be calling for HRC to bow out! The notion that Senator Sanders should drop out is nothing more than an effort to make HRC look like a stronger candidate than she actually is.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
10. Not even true, Bernie was ahead of Hillary by 3 in a poll not long ago
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:41 AM
Mar 2016

I'm not saying I trust Fox, but this Bloomburg poll of 311 people is a small sample in the grand scheme of things. Oh, and the same Fox poll went from +3 Bernie last month to +13 Hillary this month - statistical noise can be encouraging, but the trend isn't changing just yet that I can see.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
15. "same Fox poll went from +3 Bernie last month to +13 Hillary this month" !!!!
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 05:43 PM
Mar 2016

That demonstrates that Fox "polls" can't be trusted.

They have to be the only ones who detected a sudden and massive surge for Hillary.

I'm sure they would rather see Hillary capture the nomination.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
17. Last month people were saying "Fox wants Bernie to win"
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 07:39 PM
Mar 2016

Can't you see the absurdity in reading too much into individual polls?

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
16. That's a mighty fine cherry crop you're cultivating today
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 05:55 PM
Mar 2016
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html

RCP Average 3/16 - 3/22 -- -- 51.5 42.5 Clinton +9.0
Bloomberg 3/19 - 3/22 311 LV 5.6 48 49 Sanders +1
FOX News 3/20 - 3/22 410 LV 5.0 55 42 Clinton +13
Quinnipiac 3/16 - 3/21 635 RV 3.9 50 38 Clinton +12
Monmouth 3/17 - 3/20 391 RV 5.0 55 37 Clinton +18
CBS News/NY Times 3/17 - 3/20 388 LV 6.0 50 45 Clinton +5
CNN/ORC 3/17 - 3/20 397 RV 5.0 51 44 Clinton +7


So the Sanders camp cherry-picks the sole poll that has Sanders up, and it is only +1 which as any Intro to Statistics class will tell you, is like likely a tie, and looky here;

Democrats Evenly Split Over Clinton, Sanders in Bloomberg Poll

The national poll of 1,000 adults was conducted March 19-22 by Selzer & Co. of West Des Moines, Iowa. The overall sample has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points, while the subgroup of 311 Democratic primary voters has a margin of error of plus or minus 5.6 percentage points. The subgroup of 815 likely general-election voters has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.4 percentage points.


Not only does the title debunk their claim, but also the numbers.

Math; it has a well-known Hillary bias.
 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
18. The poll trend over the past several months shows Bernie catching up to Hillary.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 07:45 PM
Mar 2016

Before the convention Bernie might have a 10 or 20 point lead over Hillary in all the national polls if the trend continues .... and I think it will.

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