These NC Dems support Hillary & voted to take away LGBT rights

[pinebox]

Disgusting.
When will Hillary denounce these supporters for voting to take away the rights of the gay community in NC?

[marions ghost]

1. Good question

I expect never.

[pinebox]

3. Correct and it's disgusting

[marions ghost]

35. She did a little tweet but the DNC

castigated the Republicans only. So thanks for posting the Dems who should be ashamed of themselves.

[Betty Karlson]

37. We have come to expect as little from the woman who praised Nancy. eom

[Vinca]

2. Let me guess. Superdelegates?

[pinebox]

4. Or Superpredators.

[dogman]

5. It doesn't matter, NC already voted.

The real question is, can they raise funds or influence voters in other states. Priorities.

[KingFlorez]

6. Sanders was endorsed by an anti-choice member of Congress in Ohio

And as I recall there was a lot of praise for that endorsement here. If we are going to hold candidates accountable for what their endorsers support, let's at least be consistent. No one called for Sanders to condemn Marcy Kaptur for being anti-choice.

[pinebox]

9. Were these people Dems?

That is the question. If so then Bernie should condemn them immediately.

[KingFlorez]

14. Marcy Kaptur is definitely a Democrat

30% rating from NARAL and she also defeated ultra liberal Dennis Kucinich in a primary in 2012.

[pinebox]

16. Then he should denounce them immediately

No questions asked.
These people need to GTFO. Period.

[JoePhilly]

24. Funny that you know this about Hillary but don't know it ...

... about your own candidate.

[zappaman]

49. They don't seem to actually know much about

"their own candidate", do they?

[Luminous Animal]

48. And a 36% rating from the National Right to Live Committee.

[Jitter65]

36. And don't forget Tulsi Gabbard is on his team...but she's evolved..somewhat.

[RKP5637]

7. I've often found just because someone wears the democratic lable, does not mean they

are a democrat. Where I lived at one time the democrats running (or some in office) were more right wing than the moderate republicans.

[pinebox]

11. We see that today between the 2 candidates

[rhett o rick]

23. I have had people say to me that they will support a Democrat in Nov but not Clinton.

For what it's worth. I don't think they can be intimidated by the power of the Aristocracy.

In 2000 the DLC/DNC said stubbornly, "Gore or Bust". They got Bush

Now the DLC/DNC say stubbornly, "Clinton or Bust". Their hubris will be their downfall. And maybe the countries.

Sander can defeat Trump easily, Clinton not so.

[RKP5637]

31. The way the DNC/DWS are handling this, they will likely ensure Trump in the WH in 2016.

Trump will soon change his messaging to be more moderate, I think, and then he will level his rhetoric straight at Hillary, and she has a lot of baggage as does Bill with NAFTA/CAFTA, etc.
2016 is going to be a rough ride.

[rhett o rick]

43. There are a lot of Americans that feel betrayed by a government that has ignored us and

favored the Wealthy and Big corporations. This unrest is shown by the large support for Sanders and Trump. My fear is that Clinton will win the nomination therefore leaving Trump as the only anti-Establishment choice.

The DNC/DLC (as run by the Ruling Class) don't care as much if Clinton loses to Trump as they do if Clinton loses to Sanders.

The Powers That Be DO NOT WANT A PROGRESSIVE IN THE WH.

[RKP5637]

54. I already voted in the primary here for Bernie. I'm thinking of changing my voter registration to I,

because I do not support the DNC/DLC/DWS. I don't want them to think I do, although they have already indicated they don't give a F what I do, even who I vote for. I will always vote democratic. Other than the primaries that are over here, that should not affect anything else, should it? I can always change back to D for primaries in 2020.

[rhett o rick]

56. Not sure what to tell you. Rules differ in different states. In Washington the State

we don't register related to a party.

[RKP5637]

57. Interesting, thanks!!! n/t

[RKP5637]

25. Yep! n/t

[VulgarPoet]

27. This is the election that has taught me this.

Depressing, to be honest... I used to think Democrats could do no wrong.

[RKP5637]

34. Same here, I am depressed with it all. I used to think the DNC was above taking sides, etc. etc. and

now I'm learning the DNC/DLC/DWS, etc. have changed all of that. I will still be a D, but I'm thinking of changing to I after 2016. I will vote for the democratic nominee, but to me the entire process has been rigged!!! But as I understand, the DNC doesn't give a F what I do!!! The democratic party left me!!! And as I understand, they don't need old time democrats anymore or care about us. I can see why democrats aren't turning out, but the DNC/DWS remain totally clueless. Hillary will be singing the establishment message, which millions and millions are fed up with. Trump will enter singing something new with a moderate message, and FFS, he might get elected.

[VulgarPoet]

38. The Big Tent movement has somehow abssorbed Reaganism into its cellular structure.

I'll have no part of it.

[RKP5637]

41. Yep, exactly what has happened!!!!! That's why I'll be changing to I. n/t

[berni_mccoy]

55. Like Hillary.

[RKP5637]

58. Yep! n/t

[Bubzer]

8. I was juror #3

On Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:18 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

These NC Dems support Hillary & voted to take away LGBT rights
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511573333

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This is a very clear attack AGAINST DEM CANDIDATES!

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:23 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Actually, the OP is pointing out a very clear attack AGAINST the LGBT communities. You're not OK with that, are you??
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Just because they have a D next to their name doesn't mean they are automatically worthy of support.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: "This is a very clear attack AGAINST DEM CANDIDATES" citing their voting record is NOT an attack.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: If the image is true, it should be discussed and considered. Not blocked. If it's not true, show some proof instead of trying to hide it.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Weak argument against Hillary but if true good argument against legislatures. Although I wonder if alerter cares more about lgbt rights or attacking Hillary, I'm voting leave.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Waste of an alert, not that it counts any longer.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This ia a very clear FREAK OUT by the alerter

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[pinebox]

10. Thank you :)

And it's a unanimous decision no less!

[Bubzer]

13. No problem!

[Bluenorthwest]

17. 'How dare you suggest that conservative bigots are conservative bigots?'

nt

[rhett o rick]

44. And the alert attacks continue. If you cant refute, ALERT. nm

[Bubzer]

47. Par for the course. It makes me glad that most people here are bernie supporters.

Even after the recent mass-exodus to JPR.

[Politicalboi]

12. We know she won't

She is 100% fake.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

15. Calling all Hillary supporters ...

this is your party

enjoy

some want change

[HooptieWagon]

21. Just wait until Clinton puts Choice on the negotiating table,...

...as she said she was willing to do last fall. Her supporters will cheer, and alert swarm posts criticizing Clinton's hard right swing.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

22. yep

ugly - it will be ugly

and so many of her supporters will be "shocked" - sad but many will fall in line - and "understand"

[jeff47]

18. Not just trans.

The Republicans loaded up the bill with attacks on all "flavors" of LGBT. As well as banning higher local minimum wage ordinances, and other workplace regulations.

[Tarc]

19. Pinebox, we agree one something, and I'd be in favor of axing NC's delegate allocation entirely

Also, this link says 11 Dems voted for it

http://www.towleroad.com/2016/03/democratic-national-committee-blasts-north-carolina-passing-extreme-right-discriminate-law/

This is not at all cool.

[still_one]

20. Is this the best you can do? It is pathetic. Bernie voted for legislation which protects racist

Border vigilantes. What should I interpret from that oh wise one.

Sanders also voted against the Amber Alert legislation. What should I infer about that? Does he support the kidnapping of children, because that is the same bullshit that this OP is trying to spew about Hillary

Huge FAIL

It seems the only posts the OP can produce are flame bait OPs to somehow try to slam Hillary in some way

Since both Clinton and Sanders denounced what happened in North Carolina, I guess you want her to say ignore what happened in the primary

https://www.washingtonblade.com/2016/03/24/sanders-denounces-new-anti-lgbt-laws-in-n-c-kansas/

[JoePhilly]

26. The media talks about Bernie more than some of his own supporters do.

Kind of ironic.

[still_one]

28. Both Clinton and Sanders denounced the legislation yesterday. This OP is pure flame bait, nothing

more

https://www.washingtonblade.com/2016/03/24/sanders-denounces-new-anti-lgbt-laws-in-n-c-kansas/

[JoePhilly]

29. Exactly.

[JoePhilly]

33. Yup ... there are a bunch of folks doing nothing but pposting ...

... flame bait OPs.

[still_one]

40. I self-deleted my posts, regarding Kansas, not because I didn't think the OP is flame bait,

but because I just don't want to engage in their petty games.

sorry. I have to spend less time on these hate infested threads

[rhett o rick]

50. Maybe you should open your eyes and notice that there are a lot of people in this country

that are sick and tired of the Ruling Class looting the lower 99%. Are we passionate about it, you bet. We don't want to see the immoral wealth gap continue to widen under Clinton and you know she has no incentive to do anything about it. She has given some weak rhetoric about asking Wall Street to behave, maybe look at closing a loophole or two. How many Americans living in poverty will you accept before you understand that a Wall Street dominated government WONT HELP THOSE OF US IN THE 99%.

How many of our families have to die in wars for MIC profits? How many jobs get moved to China before you recognize that Free Trade is killing our working class?

Clinton has supported tough (that's her, tough) laws that filled our Prisons For Profits. Do you think that's ok? Do you think she will change her mind?

It's time for the 99% to stand up against the destruction of our democracy and economy by the Wealthy. Call it hate if you must, because I hate seeing the poverty and joblessness that exist today and hate to think that some are ok with the status quo.

[still_one]

52. I wasn't talking to you. Go spew your Hillary hate to someone else

Lets see, latest Pennsylvania poll, Hillary 53, Bernie 28.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/pa/pennsylvania_democratic_presidential_primary-4249.html

Latest California poll, Hillary 48, Bernie 41.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ca/california_democratic_presidential_primary-5321.html

Latest Wisconsin poll, Hillary 50, Bernie 44.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/wi/wisconsin_democratic_presidential_primary-3764.html



Latest National Polls:

Bloomberg:
Hillary 48, Bernie 49

Fox:
Hillary 55, Bernie 42

Quinnipiac:
Hillary 50, Bernie 38

Monmouth:
Hillary 55, Bernie 37

CBS News/NY Times:
Hillary 50, Bernie 45

CNN/ORC:
Hillary 55, Bernie 44


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html

[rhett o rick]

60. Those that choose to side with the Wealthy and Super-Wealthy remind me of

those kids in jr high that hid behind the big bully sticking out their tongues. A Wall Street government will not help those among us that are struggling. In fact they will make it worse. As their profits go up so does poverty. There was a time when being a Democrat meant you helped the people and not the Wealthy.

The Wealthy may buy this election for Clinton a member of the top 1% or the top 1% club, but we will fight on until we drive the Big Money domination of our government. Join our fight. The status quo literally kills. Save our Working Class against the onslaught of shipping our jobs to China.

[LonePirate]

39. They also voted to prevent cities raising the minimum wage.

Now, only the state can raise it which will not happen so long as Repubs maintain dominant control of both NC houses.

[dsc]

42. and AG Cooper and Josh Stein

denounced, and voted against this bill and also endorsed Hillary. Incidentally, I imagine you left one off. My Rep. Larry Bell also voted for and likely endorsed Hillary.

[DanTex]

45. Was this before or after Bernie talked at Liberty U?

[still_one]

53. I am trying to avoid this damn flame bait thread, but they are very quiet about Kansas which went

for Bernie in a big way, and also passed some pretty draconian anti-LGBT legislation a couple of days ago

[Bluenorthwest]

59. Bernie's opening at Liberty:

"Thank you, President Falwell and David. Thank you very much for inviting my wife, Jane, and me to be with you even this morning. We appreciate the invitation very much.

And let me start off by acknowledging what I think all of you already know. And that is the views that many here at Liberty University have and I, on a number of important issues, are very, very different. I believe in a woman's rights....And the right of a woman to control her own body.

I believe gay rights and gay marriage."

What's the problem? Shall I post Hillary's lavish praise of Rick Warren, his wife and congregation when she spoke at Saddleback? She mentions how Bill also loves them and what a spiritual guide Rick has been to her. I can certainly post it if you'd like.....

[DemocraticWing]

46. Lots of homophobes backing Hillary in my state too. They think she's going to save them.

I think she should tell them no help unless they stop voting against LGBTQ rights. They'll refuse, because they are filled with hate just like the Republicans.

My state representative is one of those Democrats that opposes LGBTQ rights at every turn. He praised Kim Davis even. I will never vote for him, ever.

[Starry Messenger]

51. Well that does suck.

She did denounce it though. When you have hundreds of endorsements, I'm sure a few are likely to be problematic.