Taking a trip back to 2008, Hillary got more than 60%

[XemaSab]

in Arkansas, West Virginia, Kentucky, and Puerto Rico.

After today, Sanders will have gotten more than 60% in Alaska, Washington, Idaho, Utah, Kansas, Minnesota, Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine. Hell, he will have gotten more than 70% in Alaska, Washington, Idaho, Utah, and Vermont!

I find this interesting and ominous.

It's ominous that so many people in so many states are looking at Hillary and going "nope," but she's still being treated like the presumptive nominee.

[dchill]

1. Ominous why?

[JoePhilly]

2. Learn to count delegates, that will help you.

[UMTerp01]

3. She's being treated as the presumptive nominee because.....math

n/t

[Avalon Sparks]

40. Math is showing right now that some US states don't want the front runner by a large margin...

That is concerning...

[bigtree]

43. did you miss her sweep of the south?

[Avalon Sparks]

46. is that what you call it?

Her and Bernie were neck and neck in most of the south.

[bigtree]

47. you won't get far with that untruth

Georgia
Hillary Clinton 543,008 71.3%
Bernie Sanders 214,332 28.2

Florida
Hillary Clinton 1,097,400 64.4%
Bernie Sanders 566,603 33.3

Arkansas
Hillary Clinton 144,580 66.3%
Bernie Sanders 64,868 29.7

Alabama
Hillary Clinton 309,928 77.8%
Bernie Sanders 76,399 19.2

Louisiana
Hillary Clinton 221,615 71.1%
Bernie Sanders 72,240 23.2

North Carolina
Hillary Clinton 616,383 54.6%
Bernie Sanders 460,316 40.8

Virginia
Hillary Clinton 503,358 64.3%
Bernie Sanders 275,507 35.2

South Carolina
Hillary Clinton 271,514 73.5%
Bernie Sanders 95,977 26.0

Tennessee
Hillary Clinton 245,304 66.1%
Bernie Sanders 120,333 32.4

Texas
Hillary Clinton 935,080 65.2%
Bernie Sanders 475,561 33.2

Mississippi
Hillary Clinton 182,447 82.6%
Bernie Sanders 36,348 16.5

http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results

[Trenzalore]

4. Demographics

States that don't have large populations of white privileged liberals vote for Hillary.

[XemaSab]

6. States like Alaska, Idaho, and Kansas?

[Trenzalore]

7. Care to enlighten me on Bernie's minority outreach in KS nt.

[Sky Masterson]

10. As a person who cacused in Kansas

Nobody reached out to me.
If you don't care enough to show up and vote for a candidate than you aren't inspired by them.
Hillary has a built in base that both likes her and dislike her. The "dislike her" is the prevailing choice here.

[Trenzalore]

11. My point was

Any state that does not have a large minority population tends to favor Sanders. Sanders doesn't do well in states that have diversity.

[Capt. Obvious]

21. That wasn't your point at all

You actually said, "states that don't have large populations of white privileged liberals vote for Hillary."

[Trenzalore]

23. Don't get mad at me

That Bernie only appeals to one demographic.

[Capt. Obvious]

24. Your dishonesty didn't make me mad

[Trenzalore]

27. Getting mad at people on the internet is unhealthy nt.

[AlbertCat]

41. Indeed.

"You actually said, "states that don't have large populations of white privileged liberals vote for Hillary.""
States with large conservative populations vote for Hillary. Maybe that's what was meant.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. You failed to mention..

You failed to mention that Secretary Clinton garnered 65% of the vote in the 2nd and 3rd most populous state in the union and those two states are also two of the most heterogeneous states in the union as well, am I right?

You also failed to mention more people live in South Florida than Idaho, Kansas, and Alaska combined, am I right?


So far six of the most populous states in the union have voted and Secretary Clinton has won five of them, three by double digits, am I right?

[JonLeibowitz]

29. what is wrong with being a white liberal? Also those with high incomes tend to back her over Bernie

so much for privileged backing Bernie..

[Trenzalore]

30. Nothing wrong with it

Just saying he hasn't been able to appeal much outside of one demographic. Maybe he'll do better in April.

[JonLeibowitz]

31. He split the difference 49-49 with Latinos in Illinois. And I hear Native Americans love him too.

Arab-Americans in Michigan (the largest community in the US) overwhelmingly voted Bernie. There are more demographics than black and white.

https://theintercept.com/2016/03/09/bernie-sanders-won-americas-largest-arab-community-by-being-open-to-them/

[onehandle]

5. Math says she is the nominee. nt

[Vincardog]

8. Tell that to Bernie when we nominate him

[onehandle]

9. Absolute fantasy.

See you in states with huuuuuge populations of Democrats.

[Live Bait]

12. In 30 minutes, Hawaii will be caucusing

It will also confirm what we knew about the West: It is Bernie's.

Arizona was a complete fuckup of epic proportions. It is also sending quite a loud message when Clinton didn't even support the petition to fix the problem. She was satisfied with the results. I am not. I consider Arizona Bernie's.

[Trenzalore]

20. Arizona wasn't close

and the area that had the problems are we she was outperforming. People stood in line, to vote for her.

The problem with Arizona was caused when the Voting Rights Act was struck down by the Supreme Court and the republicans there could determine where to put polling places without approval.

[Live Bait]

22. How come the only exit poll I could find regarding Arizona showed

a 60% Bernie majority?

[Trenzalore]

26. Does your exit poll include early voting nt.

[Vincardog]

14. That is rascist bs. You are saying my vote doesn't count. Why do you hate voters?

[onehandle]

15. I love voters! 2.5 million+ plus more voted for the nominee!

Voters. Delegates. Love 'em. Got 'em.

[Vincardog]

17. Me too let's look at the counts in a month

[onehandle]

18. I heard that last month. And the month before that. nt

[Vincardog]

19. What is that I hear? Is it whistling? Are we going past the graveyard?

[Live Bait]

25. We specifically told you after March 15th, the schedule shifts to Bernie

and will remain there for quite some time.

By then New York and Pennsylvania will have agreed along with Alaska and Washington that Clinton isn't worth their time or efforts.

Arizona's massive fuckup made sure of that. And people *ARE* checking their voting ID's and making sure that they are properly registered, and bitching if their registration was changed.

[Cobalt Violet]

35. what nominee? There is no nominee yet.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. Where did your interlocutor mention race?

Absolute fantasy.

See you in states with huuuuuge populations of Democrats.

-onehandle

Thank you in advance.

[ibegurpard]

39. incorrect

Probability says she is the nominee.

[brooklynite]

28. And of course the Southern States where Clinton got 60%+ don't count...

[Wilms]

33. Here. You need any more?

[brooklynite]

34. Am I to understand that this thread is just for Sanders supporters?

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The OP made an assertion that seemed inconsisten with the opinions that Sanders folks have made about RED States that Clinton has won, and I returned the favor.

[Wilms]

38. I only get around so much, so I may not have seen those opinions.

What I did see was an article that said quite clearly that Sanders needed to do really well in the north to neutralize Clinton's performance in the south.

On that thread, a prolific poster protested the OP claiming that it suggested the southern votes were only worth 3/5 a piece. And that logic turned into an incredible shit-storm that challenged the RAM of anyone logged into it.

And now, it seems, it has been managed and turned into a meme that Sanders supporters view Southerners as 3/5 a human. African American Southerners in particular.

You know what I smell? That's why I snarkly asked if you wanted to throw gas and a match on a bag filled with dog poop left on DU's doorstep.

That's not you, BKite. Not here, not in the real world. Despite our differences I have every faith you are better than that. Please don't prove me wrong.

[XemaSab]

36. My point was that the "losing" candidate is still kicking ass

and that's a problem for the establishment.

[bigtree]

45. did you say the same after MI

...when she swept five states?

Ohio, NC, Illinois, Florida, and Missouri?

[Mary Mac]

32. shes winning states Obama won last time

And losing the Caucasian caucuses that she won last time. Seesaw.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

37. I try not to describe the primary in such stark racial terms...

But what we are witnessing is a reprise of 2008 with demographics being a much better predictor of results than momentum.

[Vote2016]

42. she was better liked and not universally distrusted in 2008.

[morningfog]

44. She was not even viable in VT. No front runner in a 2 person race

has ever been non viable anywhere. She did not even get 15%.

In the most recent 3 states she didn't win a single county.