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tabasco

(22,974 posts)
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 03:49 PM Mar 2016

Despite The Math, Bernie Sanders Has Already Won

AP has not yet allocated all the delegates out of Washington State. More will be tallied in his column over the next several weeks, as the state party releases margins by congressional district. But if Sanders' share holds, when all's said and done, he could net more than 60 delegates out of Saturday.

That's impressive and would cut into Clinton's pledged-delegate lead significantly, by 20 percent.

It doesn't change the math much, but that might not even be the point. Sanders has a narrow path (laid out below in detail), but he is going to win in lots of places over the next two months in similarly sweeping fashion. Regardless of what happens, when people look back on this 2016 Democratic primary, Sanders won't be dismissed as a gadfly or fringe candidate, as he was treated at the beginning of this campaign. He has already had a major impact on the Democratic Party, on Hillary Clinton and how they talk about the issues he's cared about most for the last 40 years — income inequality, regulation of Wall Street banks and power and influence in politics.


http://www.npr.org/2016/03/27/472056754/despite-the-math-bernie-sanders-has-already-won

Lays out nicely what Sanders must do to get a majority of pledged delegates.
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Despite The Math, Bernie Sanders Has Already Won (Original Post) tabasco Mar 2016 OP
While I like this article, I think Montanaro is still placing too much emphasis on the PatrickforO Mar 2016 #1
Agree noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #3
Win or lose, Bernie has built an organization for his successor. /nt NCjack Mar 2016 #2
I wonder who that will be. tabasco Mar 2016 #6
My guess: O'Malley and Warren will be ready to run. NCjack Mar 2016 #8
Warren, maybe. tabasco Mar 2016 #9
They have been most reliant about the math in the fall PATRICK Mar 2016 #4
Hillary has more of the popular vote than any other candidate, Bernie or the GOP. MoonRiver Mar 2016 #7
Why have primaries when you can have a coronation? baldguy Mar 2016 #5

PatrickforO

(14,574 posts)
1. While I like this article, I think Montanaro is still placing too much emphasis on the
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 03:57 PM
Mar 2016

super delegates. The plain fact is, if I were a super delegate in WA, and I knew the people in my state had overwhelmingly favored Bernie, I would surely switch allegiance to Bernie come the convention. This is what happened in 2008, too, with Clinton's supposedly substantial super delegate lead.

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
3. Agree
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 04:10 PM
Mar 2016

The lobbyist super delegates probably won't care but the elected officials in states that went for Bernie want to be re-elected. They will pay very close attention to how their state voted and vote accordingly. They don't want a bunch of angry citizens voting them out of office or financing a primary challenger against them. They know we can fund a candidate so they are very wary right now.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
6. I wonder who that will be.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:01 PM
Mar 2016

Who will take over the leadership of this righteous political movement that Sanders has begun?

Won't be Al Franken -- LOL!

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
9. Warren, maybe.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 02:17 PM
Mar 2016

O'Malley is a former prosecutor and was all "law and order" as Maryland governor.

PATRICK

(12,228 posts)
4. They have been most reliant about the math in the fall
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 06:04 AM
Mar 2016

Only the GOP has the power to change that if Hillary is the nominee with an ever decreasing voter base. If Sanders is clearly the one by those numbers it is more than displeasing the voters in your state, it is the overall fate of the party itself. And oh, the nation too of course, who bears the the burden of propping up the weak centrism. Balanced against this greater pressure and even much more negativity about Clinton's real muscle in the fall, there has to have been a great more done to secure diehard superdelegate and even crooked superdelegate support. There will be some, probably not present career pols, totally unmoved even if 100% of the state went for Sanders. However, even then Sanders can "win" out over unfairness.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
7. Hillary has more of the popular vote than any other candidate, Bernie or the GOP.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:05 PM
Mar 2016

What's that again about the will of the voters?

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