HRC Supporters: How comfortable are you with David Brock?

[DFab420]

Is it a hold your nose and swallow the nasty medicine type thing, or are you just happy he's on the payroll now?

I'm just curious how you, as Democrats, can rally behind anything this proven liar and character assassin ever says.

[BernieforPres2016]

2. By any means necessary

They wouldn't be Hillary supporters if people like David Brock and Sid Blumenthal bothered them.

[msanthrope]

3. Just fine with David. He's offered contrition and accepted forgiveness.

I think the story of him and his partner is a lesson .

[DFab420]

7. So a white man ruins the career of a black woman and 20 years later apologizes for it

And you are fine with that???

Jesus fucking christ, the Clinton camp knows no shame. No wonder they can forgive the Iraq War, and Goldwater, and the Crime Bill..

[fun n serious]

18. Tad is paid 800k a month and is pro monsanto. nt

[DFab420]

21. Does that mean he ruined a woman's career to help install a conservative SCJ?

[beam me up scottie]

37. Did he call a black woman "slutty" and humiliate her for money?

No?

What an absurd comparison.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

61. Sanders pays Tad Devine 9.6 million per year? Do you have a link?

[fun n serious]

67. Yes here you go

http://docquery.fec.gov/pres/2016/M3/C00577130/B_PAYEE_C00577130.html

[DisgustipatedinCA]

68. Thank you. That is for his company, not for him individually.

I'm sure he gets a nice cut, but not the entire amount. That goes to his company.

[fun n serious]

74. He owns his company.

His company is him.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

75. You don't really know anything about companies, do you?

I thought we Sanders fans were supposed to be the corporate know-nothings. Nope.

[msanthrope]

54. He didn't apologize 20 years later. Ironically....Tad Devine supported Brock in 2004.

How soon Democrats forget.

[msanthrope]

57. He apologized for it years ago....so much so that Tad Devine used Media matters in 2004. Nt

[hollysmom]

29. wow, just like republicans - sin and then claim you asked forgiveness from Jesus and

then sin again and everyone loves you in the republican party.

Clinton may unite the country as totally under republican rule. good work

[islandmkl]

4. he went through a Jedi-mind-conversion program that, when utilized in tandem with the

'Move-the-Left-to-right-past-center' leadership program the Democratic Party leadership adopted, allows for his full integration into a position of influence in the campaign...with full approval and endorsement of all advocates of said campaign...

of course, it also required those same advocates to exercise the 'Past History Selective Memory Eraser' program to aid in their full and complete satisfaction with the updated policies of the campaign....

[NWCorona]

5. They seem perfectly fine with Brock

Even though he destroyed a black woman named Anita Hill to get a Republican Supreme Court judge in. He no doubt stopped plenty of women coming forward with abuse complaints. After Clarence got in he admitted it was all lies.

I guess that's all fine now that he works for Clinton.

[DFab420]

8. Apparently because he apologized 20 years later after being brought into the fold

we are now supposed to forget his misogyny

[NWCorona]

10. I know right? Somethings aren't forgivable

Brock will never get a pass from me.

[Jitter65]

45. Obviously Bernie gets a pass for signing voting for bills he now blames Hillary for. nt

[NWCorona]

46. Nope!

I've called him out before.

Bernie isn't perfect or above criticism.

[berni_mccoy]

6. If they're fine with David Brock, they're fine with James O'Keefe.

[GoneFishin]

9. He's an asshole, but he's their asshole. And that's how they roll.

[Still In Wisconsin]

11. He's winning.

[Scuba]

12. Brock, Kissinger, private prisons, XL Pipeline... there's no bottom for Hillary.

[ThePhilosopher04]

27. When you bathe in the sewer, you stink. The stench from the Clinton camp is nauseating

[pdsimdars]

56. And that's what makes her the real progressive, right?

[Scuba]

60. Hey, what's more progressive than the private prison industry? Loan sharks, maybe?

[firebrand80]

13. We're going to need him against Trump

The high-minded ideals about what a Presidential race should be is nice, but the reality is that politics is sometimes a bare-knuckle brawl.

[Armstead]

31. So instead of trying to elevate politics we should help push it further into irrelevant mud?

[ThePhilosopher04]

14. Lie, cheat, steal, smear, as long as they "win"

ethics and morals be damned.

[pdsimdars]

58. lie, cheat, steal, smear and then whine about Bernie's "tone" Give me a BREAK!!!!

[Bluenorthwest]

15. I assume they agree with him about Antia Hill and are grateful he helped us get Clarence on the

SCOTUS. They proudly stand with him.

[beam me up scottie]

16. If Karl Rove were to defect and join their team they would welcome him too.

Brock is Hillary's Rove and they've absolved him of his misogyny because he does their dirty work.

[fun n serious]

20. Tad Devine

:large

[beam me up scottie]

24. Did Tad publicly humiliate a strong, intelligent, accomplished black woman for the GOP?

Did he call her a slut and take money for shaming her in front of the entire world?

No?

Then don't insult my intelligence by comparing him to that vile pos Brock.

[Mass]

38. They do not care. They are reapeating Clinton's talking points and that is enough for them.

And they do not spend one minute bringing proof to their claims.

[beam me up scottie]

87. Exactly, it's all a game to them.

They just keep repeating the same memes over and over again.

[Avalux]

25. Really? Let's not forget what Brock once said about ol' Hillary.

I'd love to know how much she's doling out to the former conservative American Spectator writer, who is now urging Republicans to support Hillary. When you like down with dogs, you get up with fleas.....

‘Dangerous character flaws’

Hillary Clinton set up a bogus advisory committee [while working on education reform in Arkansas] and staged an elaborate public consultation process to validate a preconceived initiative. She gave the appearance of working very much within the established political process, building consensus and seeking votes, while short-circuiting debate within her own advisory group. She also discovered the usefulness of identifying an enemy and demonizing it to galvanize public support. Thus the idea that the failure of health care reform was largely due to Hillary’s political inexperience cannot be sustained. … Unfortunately for Hillary, the same tendencies and characteristics that had worked for her in Arkansas, and appeared there as strengths, when tested now in a truly partisan political environment, would reveal not just surprisingly poor judgment on her part but character flaws of a particularly dangerous and self-destructive sort.

http://freebeacon.com/issues/flashback-david-brock-warns-of-clintons-dangerous-character-flaws-in-book/

[polly7]

42. Hey, fun ...

Clinton was on the board at WALMART, and did NOTHING towards helping workers unionize or women get equal pay.

Plus all those 'speeches' she's given or gotten lobbyist money from pretty much everyone you've highlighted there. They're her life-line.

[fun n serious]

47. I know.

I am pointing at the hypocrisy of the "revolution"

[polly7]

48. It is a political revolution.

Trying to help millions of people through winning an election funded by those people and not depending on the same corporations who absolutely do affect and control decisions by people who owe them - and, that we've all seen all around the world, do not help ordinary people. You're a very smart person ... you're confusing me lately.

[fun n serious]

49. You don't do it by Bullying and torpedoing people who have worked hard for years..

If you look close at Sanders you will see. He wants to destroy the Democratic party and rebuild it. Some might like that idea.. Some say it's dangerous! It will fail and land us in Zombie land with Trump and Cruz. I feel like he is MORE against us DEMS than he is the Repukes. He hates us, that is how I feel. I come here and I see his supporters hate us too. It's a big turn off. I'm not alone in this.. I voted for Obama and started neutral about Sanders but once I saw the POUNDING Clinton, the DEM party and supporters where getting I shut down. I can not see past the nasty anymore. I tried. I am now a Jew hater, a racist and a neo nazi. That is how I have been portrayed. Tell me how that is appealing? If you knew how and where Sanders Camp is spending their money you will say they set the tone for all this. It's ugly. Also, I LOVE Obama. I think he did a really good job. Bernie doesn't here is proof.

&feature=youtu.be

So.. basically. If you are a democratic socialist you might want to vote for Bernie. If you are an Obama Democrat, you might want to vote for Hillary. I am an Obama Democrat. If you look on Twitter, and other online media.. it's clear who the bullies are. They are even bullying superdelagates now.

Terrible stuff about Hillary getting sexually assaulted with a brick, the C* word used a lot of horrific stuff never gets a hide but if I am slightly critical of the messiah hell breaks loose.

[polly7]

51. I have seen all of this. I completely disagree with you on who has done what.

100% bass-ackwards from the way you've portrayed it.

[fun n serious]

53. I do not know you don't see it

and you probably do not know how I do not see what you see. It's all over GDP everyday. I can not post anything slightly critical of Sanders.

[fun n serious]

55. This is GDP

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1251


Count the anti-Hillary threads.

[beam me up scottie]

89. Who called you a "Jew hater", racist and Neo-Nazi? Did you alert on their posts?

That is awful, I would definitely vote to hide such accusations!

Who called Hillary the c-word other than trolls who were banned?

[beam me up scottie]

93. So no one actually said those things about you, good to know.

And no DUer called Hillary the c-word either, I'm very happy to hear that, when I was on MIRT we banned a serial troll who uses that kind of language.

I'm sure Skinner would ban anyone who called Hillary that name so if you do see it happen make sure you alert and pm him.

[ky_dem]

50. Guess who also worked at a law firm representing Monsanto?

Hillary Clinton. (and do we really want to get into the Whitewater land deal in Arkansas and Hillary’s legal representation of convicted felon Jim McDougal and Madison Guaranty?). And she actually sat on Walmart's board.

[floriduck]

59. Do you really want to go down this road with Podesta's history?

Let it be for everybody sake.

[onehandle]

17. He'll be fighting on the right side long after the 'Not Hillary' Party is forgotten. nt

[SecularMotion]

19. I think David Brock has redeemed himself since working for the darkside

and I am suspicious of those who attack him.

[whatchamacallit]

26. Lol! Rabid RWer finds home in the Clinton's DLC nest

and you're suspicious of those who attack him. I'm suspicious of anyone who doesn't.

[ThePhilosopher04]

28. For real?

[DFab420]

33. This is the same forgivness that can look past the Iraq War, DOMA/DADT, the Patriot Act,

and Super Predators.

[whatchamacallit]

22. They'd be thrilled to have Goebbels working for the campaign

I shit you not.

[ThePhilosopher04]

30. This is true. They seem to admire his work.

[polly7]

62. Agree!! nt.

[libodem]

32. When KKKarl isn't available for ratfucking

This works for dirty tricks: I'm sure what ever it takes to win is fine with 'em.


http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/28/sanders-is-furious-at-david-brock-hillarys-loyal-servant-and-spin-master/

[LexVegas]

34. I like him better than Susan Sarandon and Cornel West. nt

[beam me up scottie]

36. You like the man who called Anita Hill "slutty" better than Susan Sarandon?

Well that certainly says a lot about you, doesn't it?

[Hydra]

39. It's nice to see them being so upfront with it, isn't it?

It seems no monster would be too evil to associate with as long as they win.

When are they trotting Poppy Bush out to endorse her? Unrelated question, of course...

[beam me up scottie]

40. Any port in a storm, any vile pos as long as he works for them.

If that misogynist worked for Bernie we'd never hear the end of it, now he's a better person than Susan?

The double standards are amazing, aren't they?

[insta8er]

35. Morally deprived comes to mind, history has shown us many times what happens if people look the

other way when the very people they adore commit crimes and misdeeds.

[ucrdem]

41. Compared to what he's dealing with he gets a merit badge for discretion.

And despite contrary assertions Clinton is running a squeaky clean campaign.

[Tarc]

43. Better question is how comfy does it feel for Sanders supporters to be in bed with Judicial Watch?

As they both try to make something out of nothing, i.e. Emailgate?

[salinsky]

52. + eleventy gazillion ... nt

[noiretextatique]

84. I am fine with Obama's FBI

Unless he's on it too.

[brooklynite]

44. Are you saying that the video is false?

I think the issue is how you interpret it.

As for factual material, I've gotten to know David over the past five years; his AMERICAN BRIDGE PAC does some of the best tracking and oppo on Republicans candidates out there.

[riderinthestorm]

63. There's no context for that video

He tells her "don't stand there." Someone else said she was almost about to stand on the taped down mic and sound cords.  

Its just as reasonable to assume he was alarmed for her.

This ASSumption that its "disrespect "or "rude" isnt supported by the many other thousands of hours of tape where its obvious the Sanders are a loving couple.  

[HumanityExperiment]

64. BWahahahahahahaha....

"I've gotten to know David over the past five years; his AMERICAN BRIDGE PAC does some of the best tracking and oppo on Republicans candidates out there"

"best tracking and oppo"

I can't stop laughing at that bit right there

[brooklynite]

69. Feel free to share the joke

I've been to their war room. How would you like to spend every day watching FOX NEWS for six hours in case a Republican says something stupid?

[HumanityExperiment]

70. Punch line...

David Brock

'nuff said

[brooklynite]

72. David brock leared from his past mistakes and switched from Republican to Democrat...

...like Elizabeth Warren.

[HumanityExperiment]

76. "Learned from his past mistakes"...

what did he learn? he's republican light supporting a republican light candidate

ideologically he's no liberal nor progressive

He's a political operative of the worst kind, all he did was change his jersey from 'red' to 'blue'

[brooklynite]

79. You're entitled to your personal opinion that Clinton is "Republican Lite"

...but since the majority of Democrats don't agree with you, maybe you want to come up with another argument.

[HumanityExperiment]

82. Not opinion, fact...

Shall we go over both candidates policy positions point by point?

here's a primer to start with...

from this post: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511595320

[treestar]

65. I don't think about him much

Bernie apparently is unable to take any heat, which is something you have to be able to do to be elected President.

[Onlooker]

66. From a negative politicking angle, both campaigns are equally good

I think the Sanders campaign have done a good job of convincing his supporters that Hillary is terrible. Hillary's campaign has not done a good job against Sanders -- maybe they should play up the VA scandal, his support for AUMF (that led to the Iraq War), his support for the anti-immigrant vigilante Minutemen, his support for the stealth bomber, his admiration for Castro, and so on. The Hillary campaign has actually been less aggressive in their negative attacks than the Sanders campaign, but both campaigns know how to play dirty.

[grasswire]

81. Hillary did that to herself. nt

[noiretextatique]

85. They've tried all of that eom

[upaloopa]

71. This is another push poll gothcha thing isn't it.

[DFab420]

73. If you think coming out and saying you like David Brock is a gotcha....well

then I think that says everything we need to know about how you feel about him...

[upaloopa]

86. No see you got a thing about David Brock which is your opinion

You act like you have some sacred truth you can use to judge other people by
So you post this question to do it

[DFab420]

88. No see, the Clinton Campaign has a thing about David Brock.

And I'm just trying to suss out wither or not personal convictions matter or if a port in any storm will do.

So I post this question to do it.

[upaloopa]

94. No I think not. You have your opinion and you want to judge us with it.

That is what all ideologues and fundie religious people do.

[creeksneakers2]

77. Everybody makes mistakes

Some are worse than others. I'm grateful that most of mankind recognizes that people can change and forgives. It would be a terrible world if it weren't for that.

Brock apologized, changed, and has done fantastic work for the left for many years now. I can't believe all these people can't find it in their hearts to forgive him.

The most beautiful gift God gave the world was second chances.

[DFab420]

80. god is a social construct, politics has nothing to do with the divine.

He ruined the career of a woman who was sexually assaulted.

And is now trying to ruin the career of a man who just wants to provide free education and healthcare...

I thought this was a democratic website...

[creeksneakers2]

83. This is a Democratic website.

In the first place, he didn't ruin Anita Hill's career. She's a college professor now, as she was when Brock wrote about her.

I read Media Matters sometimes and I've never seen him attack Bernie. If he did, he might have been trying to defend Hillary from invalid attacks in the media.

Do you have a link to where Brock tried to ruin Bernie's career?

[creeksneakers2]

90. I just ran a search of

Media Matters under the search term "Sanders." I couldn't find a single negative article about Bernie.

[beam me up scottie]

91. Try his propaganda outlet bluenationreview.

Then there was the time he accused Bernie of not caring about black lives:

Top Clinton Ally: "Black Lives Don't Matter to Bernie Sanders"

He's Hillary's Karl Rove.

[monicaangela]

78. I don't know what they think, or how comfortable they are, but I am sure not comfortable with him

and his switch to the democratic party after years of being a republican. And then there is this: