2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumTo the Hillary supporters that can see this. Should Clinton pick a minority as her VP?
This is a real question with no snark intended.
For the record I'd be very disappointed if Bernie doesn't choose a female for his VP slot.
Renew Deal
(81,859 posts)Did Palin help McCain? How about we pick the person that is best ready to become president and also is an above average campaigner?
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)I also know that there's plenty of female and minority elected officials that can handle the job at hand.
Thanks for the reply.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Bad Dog
(2,025 posts)He didn't suggest any names though.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)I think it would be a good choice.
I follow that choice with Brown out of Ohio.
Bad Dog
(2,025 posts)I'll look those names up, thank you.
GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)If I recall correctly it was Julian Castro.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)But he's not really being talked about anymore.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)MineralMan
(146,308 posts)on long consideration of many factors. Race should not be one of those factors. Other things are far more important.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)There's plenty of viable minority candidates out there. I would like to think anyone Hillary picks would be very capable.
Glass ceilings are made to be broken!
MineralMan
(146,308 posts)We currently have the first President who is a person of color. If Hillary Clinton is elected, we will have our first female President. I think the question of glass ceilings has been answered and will be answered further if Clinton is elected.
As for her choice to be VP, I will leave that decision entirely to her, since that has normally been the manner in which vice presidents have been chosen. I'm sure it will be someone who will enhance the viability or her election chances. That's the only thing that seems certain.
Again, I do not believe that race will be one of the primary considerations.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)But the way you frame it seems like there's no more ceilings to be broken. I recognize that Hillary being a woman would be huge all by itself. I will be a little surprised if she doesn't tho.
MineralMan
(146,308 posts)I'm simply saying that I don't think race will be one of the considerations for a VP pick.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)More diversity isn't needed at this point.
I'm not trying to put words in your mouth so sorry if it came out that way.
MineralMan
(146,308 posts)I think many groups are very under-represented in government. I would definitely like to see that change. However, at the vice-presidential level, I doubt very much whether race will be a consideration. Political expediency is the usual consideration, and I doubt that will change. Frankly, I will not be surprised at anyone being selected as the VP candidate.
I'm always working on diversity issues in Minnesota, with regard to the state legislature and local offices. I helped a Hmong immigrant become the state senator from my district, despite all of the odds against his election. That community has long been completely unrepresented. Diversifying government to reflect the actual population has long been something I've tried to help happen.
We still have a long way to go. When there are 50 women in the Senate and over 200 in the House, along with representative numbers for every minority group, I'll begin to think we're getting somewhere. And every legislative body should also reflect the jurisdiction's ethnic and racial diversity in their make-up. Then, we will have something resembling representative government.
I doubt any of that will happen in what remains of my lifetime, though.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)And good job with your work in Minnesota! I actually had a Hmong neighbors from Vietnam growing up as a kid.
Onlooker
(5,636 posts).... VPs don't do all that much, so Hillary an Bernie should choose VPs who are strategically sensible. The goal is to choose someone who can help her win the election. A Latino would make sense and there are a number of highly qualified ones out there. I think I read that Thomas Perez, the Sec'y of Labor, is on the short list, and he sounds like he'd be a good campaigner and give prominence to labor rights, which is important from an ethical as well as strategic pov.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Thanks!
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)but if it's going to be Trump on the other side I don't think Castro will improve on 90%+ she's going to garner from the Latino community. She'll be free to pick a VP to aim for some other demo/state.
BreakfastClub
(765 posts)who is young and uncontroversial. I would love it if she chose a woman.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)That said I can agree with your take on Hillary choice.
reddread
(6,896 posts)surely, anyone from the .001% would as well.
we have had minority rule for so long now, we would not know how to act under a democracy.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Hillary not so much. If the Republican candidate is Trump then Hillary may choose a businessman type, but one who is obviously sane and nonbigoted.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)the House Democratic Caucus. That makes him the #4 ranking Democrat after Nancy Pelosi, Steny Hoyer and James Clyburn.
Jackilope
(819 posts)7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)Godhumor
(6,437 posts)Whomever wins needs a younger VP to bring in new life to the party apparatus.
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)SheenaR
(2,052 posts)and there is no showdown at the convention, Castro is the guy. I don't know why, and his resume is light, but he could certainly help us snatch some Red states with a high Hispanic voting bloc
If there is a close race and supers changing sides and a flat out mess at the convention where she still prevails, I think strategically her best bet would be to extend the offer to Sanders to unify both sides. This is the only scenario where that is plausible and I dont want him in that position anyways.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)She picked somebody from the 1%.