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bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 03:40 PM Mar 2016

HRC to a Resolution Trust Corp/RTC interview May 1995: "I don't believe I knew anything about any of

these real estate parcels and projects..." re: Castle Grande and the Madison Guaranty S&L failure

Castle Grande (Wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Grande

I simply don't believe you at all today Madame Secretary. That much I do know. This one example opens a bottomless pit of corruption to review and discussion, doesn't it, DU?

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HRC to a Resolution Trust Corp/RTC interview May 1995: "I don't believe I knew anything about any of (Original Post) bobthedrummer Mar 2016 OP
Hey bobd - the real estate stuff was part of the GOP ruse USED only to get INTO Rose Law Firm blm Mar 2016 #1
Thanks, blm. Wilms Mar 2016 #2
Visit 1993 to learn how Bill and Hillary Clinton tie to Jackson Stephens... Octafish Mar 2016 #3
I don't like how easily confused people can get here since some RW trolls are purposely blm Mar 2016 #4
Private Prisons for Profit and other current problems got a lot of help from her copresidency too bobthedrummer Apr 2016 #25
We both love the truth-and the BFEE has a lot of moles and red herrings still, blm. bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #8
Mark Rich pardon was done for GHWBush - not for Denise Rich like GOP wanted repeated blm Mar 2016 #10
If so, doesn't that make it worse? karynnj Apr 2016 #16
I'm just keeping it real for those who think the media got it right. blm Apr 2016 #17
Ahhh ... another old RW Zombie smear returns from the dead. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #5
What specifically is a smear, JoePhilly-tell us in detail-not with your broadbrush trigger words. bobthedrummer Apr 2016 #15
Not long before the Vince Foster threads start appearing nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #6
I know that Arkansas was a major center of black operations during the 1980's regardless of all else bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #7
In 2010 one of the Clintons major donor sources, Cornell Corrections, merged with GEO Group bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #9
holy fuck Blue_Adept Mar 2016 #11
"The Bible was and remains the biggest influence on my thinking..." Hillary Rodham Clinton 2015 bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #12
How Secretary of State Hillary Clinton cared for Democratic donors bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #13
"I don't believe I knew anything about any of these..." Well, I can't believe you. n/t bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #14
If her memory was that BAD 21 years ago, then heaven help us now. CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #18
I voted for him, twice. Same for President Obama. It's a very selective memory CentralCoast. bobthedrummer Apr 2016 #19
K&R EndElectoral Apr 2016 #20
Kick bobthedrummer Apr 2016 #21
KICK! Pa rum pum pum pum, rum pum pum pum, snooper2 Apr 2016 #22
Back at you for the final laugh, sweetheart, with one of those musically coded messages from history bobthedrummer Apr 2016 #27
Knowing what we know now about the Clintons, I recommend everyone look what happened back then snagglepuss Apr 2016 #23
Yep. n/t bobthedrummer Apr 2016 #24
It's worth a second look regardless of all else-there's a pattern of magical thinking or something bobthedrummer Apr 2016 #26
Kissinger, Kagan, Koch... bobthedrummer Apr 2016 #28

blm

(113,052 posts)
1. Hey bobd - the real estate stuff was part of the GOP ruse USED only to get INTO Rose Law Firm
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 03:47 PM
Mar 2016

so Bushies could scrub it clean for Poppy Bush and his crony Jackson Stephens who was named in the BCCI Report.

I am for sticking to the REAL problems with Clintons, but, will NEVER use any of the made-up cr@p that was intended ONLY as the smokescreen that covered up the REALLY nefarious dealings of BFEE/Jackson Stephens/BCCI.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
2. Thanks, blm.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 03:52 PM
Mar 2016

I'm not familiar enough with these episodes, but I have believed there's been a lot of made-up stuff to cover others...maybe even the Clintons, as in limited hangouts.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
3. Visit 1993 to learn how Bill and Hillary Clinton tie to Jackson Stephens...
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 03:53 PM
Mar 2016

...and where they got their idea to help the financial services sector by helping repeal Glass-Steagall, becaming empathetic with those in natural gas and fracking and other mineral extraction industries, and seeming to find contentment with irregular international banking practices a la BCCI; then check out this article from the great Barbara Demick, once of The Philadelphia Inquirer, which ran three days before the inauguration of President Clinton in 1993:



Clinton's Wealth Of Support

An Arkansas Family Has Been A Backer,
And A Source Of Controversy.


By Barbara Demick
PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER STAFF WRITER, January 17, 1993

EXCERPT...

Early in the game, the Stephenses raised $100,000 in Arkansas to get Clinton's candidacy up and running. Then last spring, when Clinton was trailing both George Bush and Ross Perot, Worthen Bank supplied the cash- starved campaign with a $3.5 million line of credit.

SNIP...

The centerpiece of the family's $1 billion empire is Stephens Inc., one of the largest investment banking firms off Wall Street. In addition to its 38 percent interest in Worthen Bank, the family owns stakes in oil and natural gas, utilities, nursing homes, waste management, diamond mining and hog farming.

SNIP...

The Stephens businesses are often represented by the Rose law firm, where Hillary Clinton has been a partner. Until the mid-1980s, they owned Arkla Inc., the Shreveport, La., natural-gas utility from which Clinton tapped chairman Thomas F. "Mack" McLarty as his White House chief of staff. Their investment firm serves as business manager to Linda Bloodworth-Thomason and Harry Thomason, the Hollywood couple who helped choreograph Clinton's public image.

SNIP...

In 1978, federal securities regulators alleged that Stephens, along with Lance, helped Middle Eastern investors linked to BCCI secretly buy up shares in a Washington bank. Stephens and the others settled the civil lawsuit by signing a consent decree in which they neither admitted nor denied wrongdoing.

SNIP...

The Stephenses have extensive holdings in natural gas, a resource strongly supported by Clinton. They, along with Bradbury, have been vocal proponents of easing banking regulations - in particular the limits on interstate banking and the Glass-Steagal Act, which separates banks from brokerage firms.

CONTINUED...

http://articles.philly.com/1993-01-17/news/25959645_1_worthen-bank-stephens-family-bill-clinton



Old news to blm and bobthedrummer. A shocker for those interested in grokking Ms. Clinton and where she's coming from -- and where she will lead.

blm

(113,052 posts)
4. I don't like how easily confused people can get here since some RW trolls are purposely
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:08 PM
Mar 2016

trying to push off alot of Bush crimes onto Clinton.

Not our pal, bob d, but, a whole pack of more recent members.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
25. Private Prisons for Profit and other current problems got a lot of help from her copresidency too
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:54 PM
Apr 2016

Dillon, Read & Co. Inc. and the Aristocracy of Prison Profits: Part I (Catherine Austin Fitts 2006)
http://narconews.com/Issue40/article1644.html

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
8. We both love the truth-and the BFEE has a lot of moles and red herrings still, blm.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:29 PM
Mar 2016

So I have a REAL Hillary/Bill Clinton problem-their veracity in 2016.

Bill Clinton pardon controversy (Wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_pardon_controversy

blm

(113,052 posts)
10. Mark Rich pardon was done for GHWBush - not for Denise Rich like GOP wanted repeated
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 05:05 PM
Mar 2016

in all media stories around the pardon.

blm

(113,052 posts)
17. I'm just keeping it real for those who think the media got it right.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 04:19 PM
Apr 2016

IMO, just about ANYTHING done to please Poppy Bush is wrong.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
15. What specifically is a smear, JoePhilly-tell us in detail-not with your broadbrush trigger words.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 04:09 PM
Apr 2016

Dillon, Read & Co. Inc. and the Aristocracy of Prison Profits: Part I by Catherine Austin Fitts
http://narconews.com/Issue40/article1644.html

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
7. I know that Arkansas was a major center of black operations during the 1980's regardless of all else
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:21 PM
Mar 2016

that isn't "speculation", "RW propaganda", "crazy conspiracy theory" or any other politicized trigger word.

And those of you that attack the authors, investigators and documenters of the truth because their work has been posted all over the Internet (including some very extreme sites that most of us avoid here on DU) are a bunch of hypocrites or worse when you call your super-circumscribed selves the "DU reality-based community".

Some of these investigators/authors have paid the ultimate price to illuminate what is in the dark of tptb aka the shadow government.
I post from a source spectrum that has increasingly become more vital to those of us that love the truth above all else.

So, for all that consider themselves to be a member/associate of the real DU reality-based community (a lover of truth) below are some links crucial to the general topic of the OP- a lack of trust in Hillary Clinton. I encourage you to add your own.

Dillon, Read & Co. Inc. and the Aristocracy of Prison Profits: Part II (Catherine Austin Fitts 2006)
http://narconews.com/Issue40/article1650.html

CIA Drug Operations In Arkansas (Rodney Stich September 2014)
http://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20140901170230-29817943-cia-drug-operations-in-arkansas

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
9. In 2010 one of the Clintons major donor sources, Cornell Corrections, merged with GEO Group
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:51 PM
Mar 2016

Cornell was a major part of what Fitts was referencing in her series about "the Aristocracy of Prison Profits" in the Post 7 hyperlink.

Cornell Companies (Wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornell_Companies

I simply don't trust her.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
11. holy fuck
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 05:06 PM
Mar 2016

And to think I thought I might never have to hear about the RTC crap again

lo and behold, it's being used right here on DU.

The world has gone topsy-turvy, mama, and I want off this ride.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
12. "The Bible was and remains the biggest influence on my thinking..." Hillary Rodham Clinton 2015
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:38 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary Clinton Showed Up For Church Today. Will Faith Help Or Hurt Her On The Campaign? (9-13-2015 WP)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/09/13/hillary-clinton-showed-up-for-church-today-will-faith-help-or-hurt-her-on-the-campaign

Unholy is the operative word, isn't it, Blue Adept?

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
13. How Secretary of State Hillary Clinton cared for Democratic donors
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:02 PM
Mar 2016

As top diplomat Clinton found time to nuture supporters like Soros and Spielberg (Issac Arnsdorf January 6, 2016 Politico)
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/clinton-emails-fundraising-soros-spielberg-216535

 

CentralCoaster

(1,163 posts)
18. If her memory was that BAD 21 years ago, then heaven help us now.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 04:24 PM
Apr 2016

You knew or you didn't know.

"I don't believe" is a CYA tactic so that if proof emerges later she can claim that she very explicitly stated that she wasn't entirely sure.

Worst outcome in a Democratic primary that led to a POTUS in my lifetime was Bill Clinton. I liked Brown, Kerrey, even Harking, but this loudmouth wanker got the nod.

I didn't care for him then but I tried to like him as president. Some of his first moves made me literally think that some evil group was blackmailing him into making bad policy, and then I realized that he just wasn't a very good Democrat.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
19. I voted for him, twice. Same for President Obama. It's a very selective memory CentralCoast.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 04:34 PM
Apr 2016

Here's another link by a woman who has a very good memory, overall.

Inside the Financial World, Government Agencies and their Private Contractors Lies a Hidden System of Money Laundering, Drug Trafficking and Rigged Stock Market Riches

Dillon, Read & Co. Inc. and the Aristocracy of Prison Profits: Part I (Catherine Austin Fitts 2006)
http://narconews.com/Issue40/article1644.html

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
27. Back at you for the final laugh, sweetheart, with one of those musically coded messages from history
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 12:54 PM
Apr 2016

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
23. Knowing what we know now about the Clintons, I recommend everyone look what happened back then
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 01:52 PM
Apr 2016

How different things would be if the internet was available back then.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
26. It's worth a second look regardless of all else-there's a pattern of magical thinking or something
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 03:02 PM
Apr 2016

"I don't believe I knew anything..." it's creepy and reminds me of The Manchurian Candidate's character Raymond Shaw's hypnotic commands...

I don't believe you, Hillary. Not one bit.

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