Hillary Clinton has anger issues

[Seeinghope]

For a long time we have seen the Clintons fighting the Republicans constant onslaught of attacks. We have seen Bill Clinton's affairs publicised for all of the world to see. Then we went thru Monica.
She has been personally attacked as 1st Lady for taking an active role in the advisement and then the her pet healthcare proposal. Which of course failed dismally. She was criticises for her hats and her always changing her hairstyles.

She has always taken a back seat to Bill. He has always been the star.

She snaps out in "ugly" anger....her constant, measured control breaking. She is more aggressive than need be in her foreign policy. This is widely acknowledged and been blamed on her wanting to look strong enough to be able to be equal in a man's world. I think that is part of her problem with seeming so cold and scripted. Over the years she has lost the feeling of freedom and confidence to feel secure with who she is, or was to be able to present that part of her. This is not to bash Hillary Clinton or to make excuses for her either. In life we always make choices. Some of the choices that we make, we make because of circumstances out of our control. If there are enough of those unforeseen circumstances, we can become very sheltered, closed off and even changed to a point.

Being in Bill's shadow all of this time and then aspiring to be, as he was, President of the United States has got to be extremely nerve-racking. Worried about being compared to him and wondering if she will measure up to his "popularity" "at least with the Dems". I think that she is walking a tightrope.

I was a very staunch supporter in the 90's and into early 2000, until Obama. Time went on and things came out, more and more, I started to become very disenchanted with the Clintons.

I look at Jimmy Carter and I cannot say enough good about him. He made mistakes in his presidency but who doesn't. His life after the presidency has shown who this man is deep in his soul. That is the kind of person that I want to represent me and my country. The Carters make me proud and they have set an example for the American People.

[MFM008]

1. Sanders stalked red faced out of an interview

and always seems to be yelling at clouds. So if everyone has anger issues who do you vote for????????????

[Viva_La_Revolution]

2. video?

Link?

[athena]

46. Here is the video:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/273570-sanders-walks-off-interview-after-arpaio-question

It took a three-second Google search, much shorter than it takes to accuse someone on DU of lying.

[rachacha]

59. Red-faced from the sun, and notice the lack of yelling and finger-jabbing

Notice I said finger jabbing, not wagging. YUUUUGE difference.

In the one instance that he was criticized for "interrupting" Hillary, he said "excuse me, I'm talking", and if you watch the video, you'll notice she is interrupting him.

Here is the video:

[athena]

65. But it was her turn to speak when he interrupted.

That's the hypocrisy of it. She was speaking, then he interrupted and started to speak. When she interrupted back, he said, "Excuse me, I'm talking."

This is what sexist men do. It's happened to me in the past. They will interrupt you, and then accuse you of interrupting them. Because in their world, as a woman, you should be seen but not heard.

You need to watch a much longer clip. I actually watched the debate in which it happened. She stays quiet so long after he interrupts her that you think she's the one interrupting him.

[rachacha]

66. No, he was responding in turn.

I actually watched the entire debate, too. Here's a longer clip. Go to 26 minutes.

Notice how she interrupts him THREE times during this exchange, once starting at 26:50, after which Anderson said "Let him respond", then again at 26:57, then again at 27:29. She then begins responding in turn, at 28:02, immediately after Sanders finishes and Anderson gives the signal.

Interrupting someone can be done for a variety of reasons, many of them tactical. I don't know why Hillary does it, but the record is clear: She has a history of interrupting and speaking past her turn in debates. If she's not called on it, it will continue. Here's another example. Skip to 4 minutes.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

60. oh, the one where the reporter went over time and kept asking questions?

Casca clarified his remarks in a follow-up tweet published later on Friday.

"Correction: this previous tweet is inaccurate, the interview was over time," he said. "I tweeted without full context, which is always a bad idea."

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/273570-sanders-walks-off-interview-after-arpaio-question

[TM99]

3. Really?

Let's see the video proof of that.

[Punkingal]

4. Has he ever jabbed his finger in someone's face like she did the other day?

No, he hasn't, because he respects people. He isn't an entitled elitist like she is. And he is angry about what people like the Ckintons have done to this country. He isn't angry because someone is interrupting his coronation like she is. So there's anger, and then there is anger.

[LanternWaste]

22. A most wonderful distinction lacking any any relevant difference.

"So there's anger, and then there is anger..."

A most wonderful distinction lacking any any relevant difference. We pretend the difference is objective, yet it lies nowhere but our own biases.

[Punkingal]

24. Anger at a question is different than anger at a corrupt political system.

[athena]

49. In other words, his anger is OK, but her anger isn't.

How very feminist.

[Kalidurga]

28. Oh but it is completely relevant even in court

I assure you if you get angry because someone is beating up your kid and you injure that person while they are abusing your child it will be seen as justifiable. OTOH if you hit that same person for retrieving something off of your property that had accidentally got there the courts might see fit to lock you up.

[athena]

48. Jabbing a finger in someone's face?

Really? Bernie supporters are now accusing Hillary of doing that? How funny.

http://www.glamour.com/inspired/blogs/the-conversation/2016/02/everyones-talking-about-bernie

[beam me up scottie]

5. I agree, I want to see the video.

I love how Bernie doesn't take guff from the bobbleheads in the press.

[Samantha]

6. If you are referring to the interview that he had told the reporter he could give him 4 minutes

then your statement is demonstratively erroneous. The reporter complained when Bernie stood up and said your time is up (meaning the 4 minutes he had promised). There was another person waiting to talk to Bernie, whom he had also promised a few minutes. The interviewer said words to the effect don't walk out of this interview. Bernie remained standing but did not continue the interview. The reporter walked away, and Bernie sat back down in the chair to meet with the next person.

Sam

[tabasco]

12. If you knowingly post false information,

you are a liar.

[athena]

47. See video link above.

I bet your post accusing the OP of lying took more time to type in than it took me to find that video using Google.

[pacalo]

69. I'm with tabasco; if you knowingly post something false...

you have no respect for the truth.

[scscholar]

51. And, his wives!

phew

[CoffeeCat]

54. Red faced?

Oh my God. You people could spin any neutral detail into a frickin four-alarm catastrophe, couldn't you?

Little dose of reality. Bernie was in Arizona. The sun is hot there. He had large-scale speeches at outdoor Arizona venues. He was sunburnt throughout the duration of his time there.

Red faced, indeed!

[PufPuf23]

7. Hillary Clinton reminds me in policy and mannner to Richard Nixon.

I was there and a good Democrat during Nixon.

[Autumn]

8. Yes she does, and she's just really not nice, I too supported her until the very end in 08.

Her behavior as SOS and in this campaign have been very eye opening to me

[polly7]

10. Yikes ..... that snubbing of Bill's smooch. That had to smart. nt.

[PonyUp]

9. She's a narcissist and thinks the world revolves around her. How dare anyone question her. n/t

[athena]

50. Running for president makes her a narcissist?

Apparently, the only thing that will satisfy some people is if Hillary knows her place and stays home baking cookies.

To me, Bernie is the one who is the narcissist. He is hurting the Democratic party's chances in the general election with baseless smears and insinuations against Hillary, all because of his ego.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

52. But even if that is true, what does a thinking person do when presented with the option

of socially liberal for the most part Hillary vs right wing assholes who seek to punish many?

??

[840high]

63. I will vote for Bernie.

[bigwillq]

11. And I think she's very insecure.

I tend to think that Hillary has several issues. I guess that's what happens when one's husband cheats on them over and over. Monica was not the first time.

[GreatGazoo]

13. Hillary's policy positions are now so convoluted that her supporters cannot repeat them.

That is a huge handicap in any contest. Hard to get people excited about policies that are subject to change.

The Clinton campaign by all accounts is obsessed with message control and polling. As women and POC started to leave them, the Clinton campaign went back to what they think works best for Hillary -- responding to attacks.

Bill is a big believer in the method and famously said "every time they attack you it gives you chance to get your message out." However, what is missing in Hillary's response to Greenpeace the other day is her message (!) She insisted that the "Sanders campaign (is) lying" but even SHE didn't put out what her position is (now).

Her line seemed rehearsed, much like the "they're leaving" bit. I really think they want to show us Hillary the Fighter and they think it will fire up her base.

If the laugh is fake and rehearsed then maybe the anger bits are too.

[Seeinghope]

15. No, I think the anger, when she amps is authentic

It is too spur of the moment. She "acts" strong when she is doing her speeches and ties to portray strength and "lead the charge" "feigned anger" but it comes off wooden and stiff. When she snaps she is just plain mean and dismissive.

I think that she has swallowed a lot over the years and is just a very bitter woman with "anger issues". Who wouldn't be with a husband like Bill Clinton. Then the Republicans on top of that.

I don"t blame her but she doesn't thrive in the limelight. It drains her.

I don't know if Hillary Clinton knows who Hillary Clinton is anymore.

[pangaia]

53. A lot of truth in what you say, in my view.

[oldandhappy]

14. Thank you for your comments.

I got so disgusted with clinton in January when she told so many lies that I forgot to remember the hassles she has endured. Certainly agree with you re the Carters. Have wondered why when former presidents are together, Carter is always hanging out at the end without anyone talking with him. Maybe his real values make it hard for others to relate to him.

[JoePhilly]

16. Only Bernie is allowed to get angry.

[FloridaBlues]

41. Gotta admit Bern has it down with his crooked index fingers

wagging in everyone's face so only Bernie has the right to be his angry self

[anotherproletariat]

17. Wow...people just don't see the innate bias against women in our society.

No, I'm not playing the gender card. But honestly. The little bit of emotion that Hillary has shown during this campaign is NOTHING compared to what we've seen from every single male running. People see a man get angry and think that he is passionate and driven. When a woman does the same thing, she is shrill and bitchy - and has anger control problems.

Personally, I would rather see Hillary more animated. She is trying so hard to stay cool that she often looks robotic. Totally caught between a rock and a hard place.

[Nonhlanhla]

18. THIS. nt

[firebrand80]

19. +1

[Arkansas Granny]

23. Absolutely agree.

[all american girl]

56. +1000

[hack89]

20. Strong assertive women scare even some "Democrats" it appears. nt

[rachacha]

62. No, substance matters. Carly Fiorina and Hillary are different from

Elizabeth Warren and Nina Turner.

All are strong and assertive. But only the first two would frighten me as heads of state.

[Orsino]

21. Oh, good grief.

Campaigns are grueling, and any candidate paying attention will be angered. "Anger issues" is a silly charge.

[Ino]

31. So if Bernie doesn't explode like Hillary...

he's not paying attention?

Hillary's poor anger management, her biting sarcasm, jabbing finger, furious expression, etc., indicate an unstable person. It's not just anger, but anger ISSUES.

[Onlooker]

25. Women should not get angry

It's unseemly for a woman to get angry. Just as Obama had to accept that he can't be the angry black man, Hillary needs to accept she can't be the shrewish woman. If she does that, some of the many men who support Bernie might find her more acceptable if she wins the nomination.

As far as the Carter's go, let's not forget that Jimmy Carter was a union busting, regulation destroying Democrat. He became a good man, but was not a particularly good man as president.

[LexVegas]

26. This is sexist bullshit. Plain and simple. nt

[Nye Bevan]

27. Hey, nothing wrong with a little anger sometimes.

[Hiraeth]

29. She volunteered for this.

[redstateblues]

30. Her anger at someone spouting lies was justified

I liked seeing it-the smug look on the idiot that confronted her says it all.

[Zorra]

32. Anger issues. Red Button.

Not good.

[MisterP]

33. there was a great Vanity Fair article on this: 08 was devastating for her

and she only decided in 15 after the pollsters assured her she had massive support in the party

"woundedness" is her main trait, motivating both her retreats and her assaults--and explaining why everything's so personal and paranoiac: everything flows from one source, first the VRWC and now Sanders supporters attacking the only true progressive, who knows you can advance liberal causes ONLY by triangulating for the GE and compromising with the GOP afterwards

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/10/hillary-clinton-inside-circle-huma-abedin

they really CAN'T understand that, since Sanders is left of Kucinich, he should have less votes--and yet the opposite's happened, the economic left, which they branded "a third of a third" (since the political spectrum's one-third of each party and a third centrist "swing voters&quot

[Kip Humphrey]

34. "look strong enough to be able to be equal in a man's world" -making up to her daddy for being

female and not being a son.

[LAS14]

35. What an incredible bunch of nonsense.

[Myrina]

36. Oh, I think Lady MacBeth wanted Bill front & center ...

... until the time was right for her to make her own move. Sadly, regardless of her 'qualifications', she is simply not likeable, authentic or easy-to-deal-with.

Supporters say "Well you're just intimidated by a strong woman" ... uh, no. I *AM* a strong woman. I'm not intimidated, I - and many others - just dislike her & her methodologies. Some people are just unlikeable. She's one of them.

[zappaman]

37. awwww

[rbrnmw]

38. There is a name for this defense mechanism.

It's called projection!!!

[Seeinghope]

39. Every time that someone makes an observation about Hillary Clinton emotions

Get accused of sexism.

When men get angry they are just called assholes. is that sexist?

Sorry, but you COULD be a WOMAN and COULD have ANGER issues. It does happen.

She is wound really tight, her speeches are wooden, she is totally guarded, her smile is even insincere. Most of the real Hillary Clinton is hidden away.

When she shows such aggression in foreign policy as her history in foreign shows in Libya, Honduras, Haiti and Syria. snapping at people the way that she has it does show more insight to who she is.

There are leaders that we see that are more comfortable in front of the camera and do sound and look authentic..down to earth. She isn't a diplomat and she doesn't handle questioning too well. There is just too much buried there.

Bill Clinton, GW Bush, GeorgeH Bush, Regan, Carter all didn't seem to have anger issues. Nixon and Johnson did though.

It really is just a personality characteristic that I think she has and other have had before her.

[snooper2]

40. Do you guys get screened before you get hired?

"She was criticises for her hats"


LOL, who writes like that

[Seeinghope]

42. Me

And I wasn't hired. It was a typo. I am on a beach on vacation.

Hillary Clinton was criticised for her hats and hairstyle changes. Maybe you aren't old enough to remember.

[snooper2]

44. And, I wasn't hired it was a typo. I happen to be on the beach on vacation.

I hope you aren't tweening on a smartphone on DU while driving LOL....

[Seeinghope]

45. I'm not that that talented!

[yourpaljoey]

43. You would be angry too, if the FBI were coming for you!

[Land of Enchantment]

55. Have you noticed she has started cutting her hair

like she did in 2008? Women do this when they are upset, hack it and hack it and hack it off. I don't think she is trying to look more masculine as has been suggested here--it's a psychological reaction to something that I cannot identify.

[fun n serious]

61. Good grief.

Hair over substance..

[840high]

64. $$ expensive haircut - but she

is one of us.

[treestar]

57. No, she does not

You are using a new standard for women, for one thing. She would not have gotten where she is with "anger issues."

You are using every bias against women there is, "cold" for being ambitious, "scripted," (someone else must have written her speeches) and talking about her clothes and hairstyles! You could not be more transparent.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

58. Carter was sabotaged by Ted Kennedy.

Kennedy stupidly assumed he would be chosen to replace Carter after one term, if he screwed with his presidency deeply enough.

Unfortunately, his scheming backfired something fierce.

As for Hillary? Having been on the receiving end of her ire personally, I can attest to your basic point. She has a horrendous temper, and under pressure, she cracks.

[Seeinghope]

68. I didn't know about Kennedy sabotaging Carter. I was putting so much on Reagan.

Wow. That is all that I can say right now about that. I was in love withJimmy Carter the 1st time I saw him. I don't know what it was about him but I saw something som special and inspiring. It was like there was this aura about him. I know it sounds crazy huh?

As far as Hillary and Bill, back then I had a lot going on in my personal life and I didn't know much about them. When I started to learn about them I had just moved to GA from IL and I heard all of the Fundamentalists going on and on about them. I started listening and learning. I got educated real fast down there. I became a steadfast fat supporter of them and of course the Republicans made it really easy. I moved back to Il and am back to my roots.

After Bush and into 08 things began to change with me about Hillary and Bill slowly but surely. Now I am totally disenchanted with the 2 of them. With Hillary, I do see a deep seated anger waiting to boil over and that scares me. I also see misplaced anger. I just don't see her being even keeled enough to have the objectivity and the ability or desire to want to go the extra mile to keep peace.

It is interesting that you were up and close enough to her that you can confirm my observation. Is there anything else that you can share?

Thanks for the input!

[wildeyed]

67. Jimmy Carter was Republican roadkill.

Good man but a horrible politician. He left the door open for Reagan. Also, he was not actually liberal. My mom, who has always identified as socialist, loathes him to this day, because he marked the end of the "real" liberals. She voted for Jerry Brown.

As far as your analysis of Hillary Clinton, I cannot roll my eyes hard enough. You are not inside her head. It is fine to disagree with her foreign policy, but to claim that it is because she has some sort of complex about being a woman..... I think that Jimmy Carter was a weak leader, but can you imagine the shit storm if I posted that I thought it was because he felt deficient and insecure about his manhood (I am absolutely not saying that, just using it as a comparison)? I wold be ridiculed and perhaps hidden, and rightly so. But somehow you think this is OK to say about a female leader?

It would be one thing if SHE had said this, but you have no idea if it is true, and no right to make that claim.

SMH

[Seeinghope]

70. Where did I say that she "has a complex about being a woman?"

You don't either get the facts or you are simply closing your eyes to reality.

You can tell a lot about a person by their actions and demeanour. You don't have to be "inside their head". Hillary Clinton is one of the most visible public figures of today. If you have watched her over decades and read about her, watched her child grow up, observed and been inundated with information on Bill Clinton then you have a wealth of information to form intelligent opinions.

She has told us about herself by telling us about her policies, what she has accomplished, why she will do what she has planned to do in the future.

After her failed foreign polices, she plans on continuing down the same road. What might you ask does that tell me about her? She does not learn from her mistakes and she does not have much compassion for human life in general.

This has nothing to do with sexism. You are wrapped up with the idea of sexism not me.

I don't think she has a complex about being a woman per-say she has a complex about how she would be able to perform as President of the United States. She is trying to convince this country as well as herself that she can be the most important and powerful leader of the world. Who wouldn't be insecure? Especially when it is a woman who would be the first woman ever to be President of the United States? Just like President Obama, he is the first African American man to be President of the United States I am sure that he felt insecure at times but he really didn't show it though. He was a very composed candidate, he was as attacked during the Primaries and campaign for President of the United States . He was gracious and he didn't have all of the questions and, what seem to be, impending scandals and ethic problems as Hillary Clinton. His attacks and unprecedented stonewalling from Congress during his Presidency has shown a man of unsurpassed strength and grace. Intelligence and composure are things I think about when I think about President Obama.

Hillary Clinton is who she is. She has determined that she needs to come across as strong and not soft like a "silly female". That is her. Many women do that when they break into what was a "man's" world. They do have to put up with discrimination and different kind of treatment. So she is just being a realist. Just as Obama was a realist. A difference is that President Obama didn't show having any kind of anger issues and all of the baggage that Hillary Clinton has.

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama have a lot in common in that they are both the 1st candidates that ran for President of the United States that would not be a Caucasian male. So because of this they both were saddled with prejudices, sexism, racism......they each are handling it in their own ways. You can see the difference in the way that they handle these added challenges not defined by sex or the color of their skin but by personality traits. Copping to Hillary Clinton criticisms as being based in sexism is in itself sexist.