2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHere's the latest from electoral-vote
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2012/Pres/Maps/Oct23.htmlThe great news is that we've solidified Michigan and swung NH back into our column. Bad news is Romney appears to be trending in Colorado; hopefully the debate will swing it back.
President Obama won a decisive victory last night. Praying it has a huge impact on swing state voters as the PPP thread indicated.
yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)Even a 2 point bump in the battleground states could make a real big difference in a hurry and based on the post debate flash polls it appears that Obama will get at least that much of a bump if not more. And any bumps now are more likely to last until election day (no more debates to anticipate), particularly if the job numbers are good (keeping my fingers crossed on that)
ItsTheMediaStupid
(2,800 posts)There was a rally at Delray Beach at 8:00 this morning and traffic was backed up for a mile trying to see the president speak.
Debate 2 blunted Romney's momentum. Debate will put us back where we we in September. (IMHO)
JiminyJominy
(340 posts)Still just want Wisconsin, Iowa, and Ohio and we are good to go.
As much as O mentioned Israel and teachers though I expect to get an additional bounce from the Jewish vote and female vote.
LisaL
(44,974 posts)Did we have any good polls in there?
GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)it is very possible AZ could go Dem, depending on Hispanic turnout.
http://www.kpho.com/story/19814639/new-az-poll-dead-heat-in-presidential-race-latino-vote-key
For some reason I can't find the latest AZ polls.
GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)Sorry, sometimes in the AM I'm really
John2
(2,730 posts)Chuck Todd and Paul Begala states President Obama gave up on North Carolina. Jim Messina ( Obama's campaign manager) states not so. The last Poll done out of North Carolina was dome by Grove showing Obama with a 47-44 lead.
The updated total for North Carolina's Early voting shows an increasing Democratic lead similar to 2008:
51.23 % Dems
30.21% Rep
African Americans so far are 31% of that vote.
The media gave the reason North Carolina will go Republican because of white conservative Democrats voting Republican. They also cite 20% of the primary vote did not vote for President in the Democratic Primary. That is their caveat. Only 966,000 people voted in the Democratic primary because there was no opposition. 200,000 people did not vote for President Obama.
16% of white conservative Democrats didn't vote for President Obama in 2008. These are likely voters. That 20% will be a smaller percent in a larger sample. So this is easily debunked.
Therefore there is no evidence for Paul Bengala or Chuck Todd to make a claim North Carolina is leaning Romney. He is behind in early voting period. Many of the people voting did not even vote in the Democratic primary for President. More evidence is Obama is still spending in North Carolina. His staff is still there.
LisaL
(44,974 posts)Why in the world would Obama give up on NC when they are voting like crazy and so far democrats appear to have a big advantage by party affiliation?
BlueDemKev
(3,003 posts)...barring a disaster in PA or MI.
We know we have 201 electoral votes locked away (ME, VT, MA, RI, CT, NY, NJ, DE, MD, DC, IL, MN, NM, CA, OR, WA, and HI).
Add in: PA (20) and MI (16) takes us to 237.
Add in: OH (18) and WI (10), puts us at 265.
Add in: IA (6) or NV (6), will put us at 271, and we'll win the election regardless of what happens in CO, NH, VA, or FL.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)Colorado is barely red and Virginia is tied with Rasmussen included, but both are blue without.
GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)I forgot to check the Rasmussen-free.