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Quixote1818

(28,936 posts)
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:45 PM Apr 2016

Why I think Clinton and the Country Owners have decided to take Bernie down now


I don't think it's because Bernie has that great a shot of getting the nomination though I think there is still a slight chance, but even as a supporter of his I am not worried about him getting the presidency. In fact, I don't really think that is what this is about for Bernie. For him its more about him building a revolution and staying the leader of that revolution to keep those in charge accountable.

I am reminded of a business communications course I took in college where in one of the lessons we were split into three groups. The work force, middle management and upper management. In my eyes Hillary represents middle management and Wall Street and our owners represent upper management. Bernie represents the workers or perhaps something like a union leader. The course was taught in what is called experiential learning where the professor passes things along to each group designed to cause tension and conflict between the workers and upper management and middle management is left feeling torn because they answer to both. It was quite interesting listening to everyone talk about how they felt and the middle managers were the ones who took the brunt of stress because they got it from both sides. I think this is why we are seeing Hillary get a bit angry from time to time. It's because she is feeling pressure from "upper management" and from "the work force" and that kind of pressure is very real if you are in the middle of it!

For the most part this countries upper management has kept a lid on the workers and diverted attention away from themselves as a reason for peoples struggles toward brown people and poor people. My guess is that after Sanders has won 6 or 7 straight they see his power building and the revolution beginning and this scares the shit out of them! But here is the thing, Sanders doesn't have to win to have major impacts on the country he just has to build a watchdog movement that will hold Clinton's middle management feet to the fire which is exactly what they don't want. They don't want pressure on middle management from the workers, they want us angry at poor brown people!

Every time Sanders points out that it's Wall Street fucking things up and Clinton is beholden to them they must fucking be going berserk! The curtain is being pulled back on their middle management and who is pulling their strings is being exposed! The people are waking up! What Sanders will now be able to do is point out every time Hillary is not working in our best interest and his followers will protest and rise up! They see this as a huge threat and Hillary I am sure is feeling the heat from her donors to chop the legs off of the leader of the movement and do it pronto! Swift and harsh! Problem is every time they do this Sanders calls them out.

So to my fellow Sanders supporters, don't worry if Sanders loses to Hillary because he is building a revolution and he will be the leader of that revolution regardless of being president or not and he might actually be more effective at putting pressure on Hillary and making changes outside the Whitehouse than in it. And maybe Hillary really wants to do the things Sanders is talking about? The louder we yell and twist her arm the more she will be forced to start looking at her donors in the eye and say, sorry my hands are tied, do you not see the Revolution going on out there? And if she doesn't then we just have to get louder and fight back harder! The Revolution has begun and is beginning to take root. Lets keep it growing from a sapling into a Giant Sequoia!
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Why I think Clinton and the Country Owners have decided to take Bernie down now (Original Post) Quixote1818 Apr 2016 OP
He's still in the game to win! bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #1
And I will support him 100% no matter what. nt Quixote1818 Apr 2016 #2
We're in it to win it Rebkeh Apr 2016 #3
I am working for the revolution. oldandhappy Apr 2016 #4
The Clintons are anything but middle management. TM99 Apr 2016 #5
Hillary won't do shit to upset the status quo.. tokenlib Apr 2016 #6
The events of the past week are all on Bernie. n/t Lucinda Apr 2016 #7
I have a different outlook... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #8
It woulden't surprise me. If the process were just three months longer I think he would be Quixote1818 Apr 2016 #9
I can't wait til this BS is archived. Hoyt Apr 2016 #10

Rebkeh

(2,450 posts)
3. We're in it to win it
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:51 PM
Apr 2016

But you're right, it's so much more than an election. This is not a blip that will fade, it's a movement that will stay.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
5. The Clintons are anything but middle management.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:54 PM
Apr 2016

They are a part of the 1% now. They are the owner class. The amount of power, money, and influence they wield is well beyond being in the middle management arena. To pretend they are to excuse any of her narcissistic rage is spurious at best.

I do worry a great deal if Sanders loses. This country can not handle another 4 or even 8 years of failed neoliberalism and failed neoconservatism. We simply can not.

tokenlib

(4,186 posts)
6. Hillary won't do shit to upset the status quo..
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:55 PM
Apr 2016

It was Bill and Hillary who brought in the bed bugs and cockroaches of the Third Way/New Dem/DLC types to mutate the Democratic party into the corporate/Wall Street puppet that it is today.

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
8. I have a different outlook...
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:56 PM
Apr 2016

Every day the polls are tightening. Bernie has time to really work on New York, his organization is even more powerful now with armies of phonebankers and canvassers, and he is able to out fundraise Hillary Clinton which has now forced her to spend a large amount of her type gallivanting off to big fundraisers to shore up her funds.

If we continue to stand strong and support Bernie through to the nomination I have a hunch we can pull this off.

edit: I'd also add this week was terrible for Hillary Clinton, so many bad OPTICs this week. And to end cap the week we get the juxtaposition of Bernie going to the Vatican and Hillary going to schmooze with wealthy donors as well as Bill Clinton reaffirming his Superpredator comments and removing any doubt that superpredators did not refer specifically to black children.

Quixote1818

(28,936 posts)
9. It woulden't surprise me. If the process were just three months longer I think he would be
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:58 PM
Apr 2016

the favorite right now.

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