Sun Apr 10, 2016, 07:54 AM
nc4bo (17,651 posts)
I finally understand the Clinton Campaign rules! (the smearing of Jane Sanders)
Posted with the permission of my Facebook friend Bob Lamb.
I agree but he said it so much better than I ever could! Thanks Bob ![]()
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22 replies, 4749 views
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Author | Time | Post |
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nc4bo | Apr 2016 | OP |
Vinca | Apr 2016 | #1 | |
peacebird | Apr 2016 | #3 | |
Vinca | Apr 2016 | #6 | |
Trenzalore | Apr 2016 | #10 | |
nc4bo | Apr 2016 | #5 | |
peacebird | Apr 2016 | #2 | |
beam me up scottie | Apr 2016 | #4 | |
GreatGazoo | Apr 2016 | #7 | |
ebayfool | Apr 2016 | #21 | |
CharlotteVale | Apr 2016 | #8 | |
B Calm | Apr 2016 | #9 | |
mmonk | Apr 2016 | #11 | |
Democrats Ascendant | Apr 2016 | #12 | |
nc4bo | Apr 2016 | #13 | |
Democrats Ascendant | Apr 2016 | #14 | |
nc4bo | Apr 2016 | #16 | |
beam me up scottie | Apr 2016 | #15 | |
jillan | Apr 2016 | #19 | |
dr60omg | Apr 2016 | #17 | |
MisterP | Apr 2016 | #18 | |
nc4bo | Apr 2016 | #20 | |
nc4bo | Apr 2016 | #22 |
Response to nc4bo (Original post)
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:01 AM
Vinca (49,387 posts)
1. Has #8 actually been done?
I ask because I've been holding my tongue about Hillary Clinton's stylist . . . assuming she has one.
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Response to Vinca (Reply #1)
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:03 AM
peacebird (14,195 posts)
3. Oh my... Yes. On twitter they ripped Jane apart for her looks. Let me go get you quotes....
But please don't do th same back to Hillary. She gives us more than enough to work with just based on her horrible history and her own words.
Hillary2016 - Jane Sanders need to shut her fat ugly face! #feelthebern are losers and poor bums with no success in life listening to a submissive woman! @2016HillaryGo Oh so its not in any way derogatory to call her "fat" and "ugly" and tell her to "shut up" Ones behavior reflects ones truths @Old_Hag_Art Jane is #notqualified to be 1st lady!! And it's true that she's fat and ugly fucking look at that hag! |
Response to peacebird (Reply #3)
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:11 AM
Vinca (49,387 posts)
6. Have our Hillary-supporting friends screamed "sexism?" Didn't think so.
No, I'll muzzle myself . . . somehow.
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Response to peacebird (Reply #3)
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:19 AM
Trenzalore (2,235 posts)
10. The Hillary campaign did this
or was it trolls on twitter.
There is an obnoxious Bernie supporter that posts ridiculous Facebook memes 6 times a day I know from High School. I don't think he is doing it on behalf of the Bernie Sanders campaign. |
Response to Vinca (Reply #1)
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:06 AM
nc4bo (17,651 posts)
5. Yes.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511682634 by GeorgiaPeanuts.
But I'm also an occasional Twitter user and I saw far too many comments similar to what was mentioned above. Nasty stuff. |
Response to nc4bo (Original post)
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:01 AM
peacebird (14,195 posts)
2. I like the way Jane looks. She looks like an honest woman, happy in her own skin.
Response to nc4bo (Original post)
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:05 AM
beam me up scottie (57,349 posts)
4. Well done, Bob!
![]() We were told those weren't real Hillary supporters who posted those things about Jane. ![]() |
Response to nc4bo (Original post)
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:11 AM
GreatGazoo (3,937 posts)
7. It was Number One on the list given by someone claiming to have been paid to troll Sanders
1) Sexism. This was the biggest one we were supposed to push. We had to smear Bernie as misogynistic and out-of-touch with modern sensibilities. He was to be characterized as “an old white male relic...”. Anyone who tried to object to this characterization would be repeatedly slammed as sexist until they went away or people lost interest.
2) Racism. We were instructed to hammer home how Bernie supporters were all privileged white students that had no idea how the world worked. We had to tout Hillary’s great record with “the blacks” (yes, that’s the actual way it was phrased), and generally use racial identity politics to attack Sanders and bolster Hillary as the only unifying figure. 3) Electability. All of those posts about how Sanders can never win and Hillary is inevitable? Some of those were us, done deliberately in an attempt to demoralize Bernie supporters and convince them to stop campaigning for him. The problem is that this was an outright fabrication and not an accurate assessment of the current political situation. But the truth didn’t matter – we were trying to create a new truth, not to spread the existing truth. 4) Dirty tactics. This is where things got really bad. We were instructed to create narratives of Clinton supporters as being victimized by Sanders supporters, even if they were entirely fabricated. There were different instructions about how to do it, but something like this (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/31/1443064/-Dis-heartened-Hillary-Supporter) is a perfect example. These kind of posts are manufactured to divide and demoralize Sanders supporters, and are entirely artificial in nature. http://socialnewsdaily.com/59087/reddit-user-claims-he-was-paid-to-troll-bernie-sanders-supporters/ |
Response to GreatGazoo (Reply #7)
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 07:28 AM
ebayfool (3,411 posts)
21. Striking how well it matches up to what I've been seeing on DU ...
like a punch list.
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Response to nc4bo (Original post)
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:15 AM
CharlotteVale (2,717 posts)
8. So true. I've never seen anything like their sexism, they
deny the very existence of female Bernie supporters with their Bernie Bros bullshit.
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Response to nc4bo (Original post)
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:16 AM
B Calm (28,762 posts)
9. That's about the size of it Bob. You could add, when Bill Clinton kicks black
people to the curb and pats his bad cops on the back, well hell, he's not running for president!
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Response to nc4bo (Original post)
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:29 AM
Democrats Ascendant (601 posts)
12. Did the Clinton CAMPAIGN really do that to Jane Sanders???
If so, then I'd be utterly surprised and thoroughly appalled, but I think this didn't happen.
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Response to Democrats Ascendant (Reply #12)
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:41 AM
nc4bo (17,651 posts)
13. You know, I'd never believe I'd see any anti-semitic views on DU but they exist
Are definitely here and are equally disgusting. It is not Sanders' supporters holding those views! I'm sure there are several folks that saved the links.
It should be of no surprise that these pov show up on FB, Twitter, messageboards. |
Response to nc4bo (Reply #13)
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:44 AM
Democrats Ascendant (601 posts)
14. I'm not really surprised by anything on DU anymore....
Trolls abound!!
My sticking point is on whether or not the Clinton CAMPAIGN made any such remarks about Jane Sanders. |
Response to Democrats Ascendant (Reply #14)
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:55 AM
nc4bo (17,651 posts)
16. It's the supporters as far as I know.
Clinton would never be seen dirtying her hands but gotta wonder, so called Bernie Bros were told to calm it down by the Sanders campaign. It did not matter whether these people were actual Sanders supporters or trolls. Yet we have silence so far from Camp Clinton (some HRC supporters...think DU) about this even though it's been going on for quite some time.
It is what it is. |
Response to nc4bo (Reply #13)
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:49 AM
beam me up scottie (57,349 posts)
15. They've existed since its inception, it's just more obvious since their hatred of Bernie outs them.
Similarly in 2008 the primaries brought out the racists.
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Response to Democrats Ascendant (Reply #12)
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:20 PM
jillan (39,451 posts)
19. Not the campaign but her supporters were very vicious towards Jane's looks.
Response to nc4bo (Original post)
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:26 AM
dr60omg (283 posts)
17. It is the same old same old Clinton fun and games
Nothing is new it is the same triangulated b.s. so on display during the protest when Clinton went off on young people this week
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Response to nc4bo (Original post)
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:05 PM
MisterP (23,730 posts)
18. ugh, like the "not Black enough" shit they were pulling when it was race they were instrumentalizing
Response to nc4bo (Original post)
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:52 AM
nc4bo (17,651 posts)
20. BillyBob brought out the sexism card otw. K&R for Monday.nt
Response to nc4bo (Original post)
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 09:34 AM
nc4bo (17,651 posts)