2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders Now Received More Individual Campaign Contributions Than Obama’s Entire 2008 Campaign
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-hanley/bernie-sanders-has-alread_b_9671406.html
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Until we can move to 6-month severely donation- and fund-limited campaigns.
pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)....but that's to our benefit, I suppose.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)not to be offensive, but I virtually never agree with you knowingly.
I was speaking to the vast amount of funding Sanders has been able to pull in from small personal donors -- the way it should be -- and his relatively small dependence on PACs and assistance from the, I believe, only large superPAC working to elect him, the nurses' union one. I don't count the help he's gotten from conservative power blocks -- I'm sure he didn't solicit it, and I'm also sure he intends to make that come back and bite them if he can.
pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)....the Nurse Union is not a superPAC, but a non-profit that has contributed less then .25% of the total he has raised. Even if he loses, I bet an overwhelming number of supporters wouldn't feel cheated out of their money.
What help has he gotten from conservative power blocks?
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)that I'm aware of. I haven't dug into it because this kind of thing is just to be expected. In any case, a miniscule fraction of the artillery lined up to unleash hell on whoever our nominee turns out to be.
pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)awake
(3,226 posts)Flushing all of there dirty Wallstreet money?
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Wave goodbye to your money.
think
(11,641 posts)That's the kind of company Hillary's been taking money from. Criminals.
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)They can put up with a little (or lot) diddling because they have faith. She's got that special ingredient that tingles.
pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)revbones
(3,660 posts)Could you point out one of those nuggets of brilliance please? I've only seen nuggets of something else.
pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Loudestlib
(980 posts)Poor Hillary, only the rich will give her money. That's a great way to end up broke. n/t
pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)Trajan
(19,089 posts)Especially the common cause we all strive for ...
People doing it together ... Not millionaires ... Not billionaires ... Regular people ....
Love you Bernie ...
This is post #6, but I don't see a single one ...
Block/Ignore is your friend ....
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)I don't think I stand alone on that front.
MFM008
(19,850 posts)you hate democrats. I refer you to Daily Caller or Brietbart.
pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)Loudestlib
(980 posts)You can like the people but not the party.n/t
pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)I heard the same thing from a Viet Cong soldier, a couple years ago. "It was your government, not you".
frylock
(34,825 posts)pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)Also check out "inverted totalitarianism", that may intrigue you.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Will defo read more on that. Thanks.
pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)ThePhilosopher04
(1,732 posts)fried eggs
(910 posts)So far, the Supreme Court nominee is still in limbo and Wisconsin's anti-gay judge won the election.
ThePhilosopher04
(1,732 posts)Newkularblue
(130 posts)More republicans than democrats voting in WI primary is confusing?
morningfog
(18,115 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)Buddyblazon
(3,014 posts)gerrymandering have to do with who we as individual's donate to? Two entirely different subjects.
Buddyblazon
(3,014 posts)just cause someone has a D next to their name? Been a registered democrat for 25 years and I have done that in nearly 15.
Go Vols
(5,902 posts)pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)Go Vols
(5,902 posts)Any one thing I can do helps.
Not sure it will help here tho.
pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)other candidates?
ThePhilosopher04
(1,732 posts)DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)how about keith ellison? isn't he supporting bernie? moveon.org is supporting him. how about a few buck for them.
ThePhilosopher04
(1,732 posts)DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)How Hillary Clinton Bought the Loyalty of 33 State Democratic Parties
<snip>
The idea was to increase how much one could personally donate to Hillary by taking advantage of the Supreme Court ruling 2014, McCutcheon v FEC, that knocked down a cap on aggregate limits as to how much a donor could give to a federal campaign in a year. It thus eliminated the ceiling on amounts spent by a single donor to a presidential candidate.
In other words, a single donor, by giving $10,000 a year to each signatory state could legally give an extra $330,000 a year for two years to the Hillary Victory Fund. For each donor, this raised their individual legal cap on the Presidential campaign to $660,000 if given in both 2015 and 2016. And to one million, three hundred and 20 thousand dollars if an equal amount were also donated in their spouses name.
From these large amounts of money being transferred from state coffers to the Hillary Victory Fund in Washington, the Clinton campaign got the first $2,700, the DNC was to get the next $33,400, and the remainder was to be split among the 33 signatory states. With this scheme, the Hillary Victory Fund raised over $26 million for the Clinton Campaign by the end of 2015.
The money was either transferred to the Hillary for America or Forward Hillary PACs and spent directly on the Hillary Clinton Campaign, often paying the salaries and expenses within those groups, or it was moved into the DNC or another Clinton PAC. Some of it was spent towards managing the Hillary merchandise store, where you can buy Hillary T shirts and hats and buttons.
<more>
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/04/01/how-hillary-clinton-bought-the-loyalty-of-33-state-democratic-parties/
DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)about bernie.
GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)a primary challenge against the DNC big wig DWS. He came very close to raising as much as her, and only had a small handful of max donors. And the week after the filing deadline he raised another $100,000. Who could be funding his campaign. Sure as heck ain't Hillary.
DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)fighting-irish
(75 posts)Now admit it when you get caught and defeated.
DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)link please?
frylock
(34,825 posts)How Hillary Clinton Bought the Loyalty of 33 State Democratic Parties
<snip>
The idea was to increase how much one could personally donate to Hillary by taking advantage of the Supreme Court ruling 2014, McCutcheon v FEC, that knocked down a cap on aggregate limits as to how much a donor could give to a federal campaign in a year. It thus eliminated the ceiling on amounts spent by a single donor to a presidential candidate.
In other words, a single donor, by giving $10,000 a year to each signatory state could legally give an extra $330,000 a year for two years to the Hillary Victory Fund. For each donor, this raised their individual legal cap on the Presidential campaign to $660,000 if given in both 2015 and 2016. And to one million, three hundred and 20 thousand dollars if an equal amount were also donated in their spouses name.
From these large amounts of money being transferred from state coffers to the Hillary Victory Fund in Washington, the Clinton campaign got the first $2,700, the DNC was to get the next $33,400, and the remainder was to be split among the 33 signatory states. With this scheme, the Hillary Victory Fund raised over $26 million for the Clinton Campaign by the end of 2015.
The money was either transferred to the Hillary for America or Forward Hillary PACs and spent directly on the Hillary Clinton Campaign, often paying the salaries and expenses within those groups, or it was moved into the DNC or another Clinton PAC. Some of it was spent towards managing the Hillary merchandise store, where you can buy Hillary T shirts and hats and buttons.
<more>
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/04/01/how-hillary-clinton-bought-the-loyalty-of-33-state-democratic-parties/
DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)much did bernie give to help other candidates.
frylock
(34,825 posts)DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)asked about bernie. if you can't answer then shut up.
frylock
(34,825 posts)And no, I'm not going to shut up, son.
DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Kittycat
(10,493 posts)We are supporting them, just like we support Bernie. That money isn't coming out of Hillary's personal account. It comes from her donors. We are his donors. This is how we donate. Deal with it. The DNC will never see a dime from me again. I stopped giving to them years ago, and went candidate direct.
DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)said "he'd think about it". he's collecting millions -- he should help other candidates.
questionseverything
(9,672 posts)altho we do have a liberal candidate list we are backing
Kittycat
(10,493 posts)He doesn't have a super pax. We find him directly, we find them directly. Get over it. Either they get with the program, or they have to get funded from you. Why aren't YOU funding them? Is something wrong with your checkbook? I'm doing my part, and funding candidates
Tell me why you allow corporations to speak for you?
pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)Myrina
(12,296 posts)Oh .... Hmmm .... I thought so.
pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)..saw their donations dry up, they were abandoned by the DNC. Bernie Sanders is helping them as he should, I'll be donating to their campaigns as well from now on.
Loudestlib
(980 posts)I am, and gave him that money to get elected not to give it away to other democrats.
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)ex 5 people giving five single contribution or 1 person giving 5 contributions?
ThePhilosopher04
(1,732 posts)fried eggs
(910 posts)when he knows that he doesn't have the numbers to win the nomination. I'm not going to call him an outright liar, but is he telling his supporters that he still has a chance?
fighting-irish
(75 posts)Be prepared for a rude awakening.
pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)Loudestlib
(980 posts)He should just take money from a few rich people (like Hillary.) Remind me, when did she end her campaign? I hope she didn't drag it out. That would be unethical.
pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)DianaForRussFeingold
(2,552 posts)May 12, 2015:
Zira
(1,054 posts)Loved it! Love you Bernie!!!
History in the making.
azmom
(5,208 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)Wish it wasn't needed, but it's good to see the grass roots support Dems can muster during Presidential elections.
Next is to solve the off-year elections debacle...
pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)It could have been a much more interesting article, but it leaves out information that might have helped to put everything into a clearer context and sharper focus. How much of that will be used to help make down-ticket Democrats more competitive in their races?
He's not doing that great of a job, in my opinion.
Well, that's ... uh ... an interesting hobby.
pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)and take on those incumbents who "could not be beaten without a superPAC and/or wealthy donors". Hillary has done a phenomenal job at utilizing her inside knowledge to fund 33 state democratic parties in August, the largest going to Wisconsin 200k. I think she's even going to Florida, or is there, to promote a candidate.
This sub-reddit sprang out of BernieForPresident, which address those downticket candidates.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GrassrootsSelect
Also from news today:
Bernie Sanders Endorses Three Women House Candidates
In fundraising appeals being sent Wednesday, Mr. Sanders asks for contributions to be divided among his campaign and those of Zephyr Teachout of New York, Pramila Jayapal of Washington state and Lucy Flores of Nevada. All three women have endorsed his presidential campaign.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/04/13/bernie-sanders-endorses-three-women-house-candidates/
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... as raising money to be shared throughout the party to help make ALL down-ticket Democrats more competitive. He's cherry-picking and being frugal (stingy?) with his written endorsements and photo, and really does not much to help the party.
Did you have any insights on the other question/s?
pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)....end up back at the DNC? Why did Alaska give back its entire donation?
She had more to offer those candidates when she received their endorsement, when Sanders was a fringe candidate. They don't have much to lose in supporting here, even if they are self-identified progressives, unless we hold them accountable...
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Did you have any other insight into my other question/s?
Loudestlib
(980 posts)pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)Zira
(1,054 posts)that $27 for the 7th time. I will be donating more times.
pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)Zira
(1,054 posts)Anyone else want to donate?
Here:
https://secure.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/39795
pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)Mudcat
(179 posts)pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)By the looks of it, the crowd may be even larger than the 24,000-person rally then-senator Barack Obama held there in 2007. (NYPD said around 28000).
CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)The Midway Rebel
(2,191 posts)And my teeth are falling out. First time we ever gave for a presidential campaign. Feel the Bern!
pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)The Midway Rebel
(2,191 posts)We are struggling, but we are living the life we want to live. That's the price we are paying, for now. There are elderly folks and people with children who are WAY worse off than we.
We've been nurturing a growing small business for 5 years now. (Thanks ACA!) It has wiped out all of our savings and we live on a below poverty level trickle of income. After all the aesthetic sacrifices and hard work, we have a thriving business, excellent credit, and are about to expand.
If the middle class makes it, we will do just fine...eventually. In the meantime, the house and my smile are embarrassing, but a lesson in humility. I've had a lot of those. Nothing matches the thrill of waking up to the sound of water dripping through your roof. Its even more exciting when the drips are on you pillow.
Also, I'm an academic and have taken an involuntary vow of poverty. I have an MA in history and twin BAs in Secondary Ed and History. If The Bern gets elected, I hope I can get a job doing what I spent a lot of money and time training to do. After I get my teeth fixed, of course. Right now, I won't even hunt for a job interview...as if there were those kinds of jobs in the first place. Feel the Bern!
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