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2016 Postmortem

pantsonfire

(1,306 posts) Wed Apr 13, 2016, 03:54 AM Apr 2016

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55 guns from VT traced to NY out of 4,500 + ATF data doesn't include even if those guns were fired.

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55 guns from VT traced to NY out of 4,500 + ATF data doesn't include even if those guns were fired. (Original Post) pantsonfire Apr 2016 OP

Clearly just "Half a Lie" from Hillary when she said, what was it? Most guns. NT Joob Apr 2016 #1

Did she say "Most guns" or "Many guns"? NT pantsonfire Apr 2016 #2

More like a 98.8% lie. ThePhilosopher04 Apr 2016 #5

1397 from New York? Hillary's got a lot of splaining to do. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #3

I believe she said "guns per capita." aaaaaa5a Apr 2016 #4

Please don't tell me that Hillary misstated, distorted, or otherwise misrepresented the truth! highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #6

That distortion and the per capita bullshit earned her three Pinocchios: beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #7

Joob

(1,065 posts)

1. Clearly just "Half a Lie" from Hillary when she said, what was it? Most guns. NT

Reply to pantsonfire (Original post)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 03:55 AM

Apr 2016

pantsonfire

(1,306 posts)

2. Did she say "Most guns" or "Many guns"? NT

Reply to Joob (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 03:56 AM

Apr 2016

ThePhilosopher04

(1,732 posts)

5. More like a 98.8% lie.

Reply to Joob (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:10 AM

Apr 2016

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)

3. 1397 from New York? Hillary's got a lot of splaining to do.

Reply to pantsonfire (Original post)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 03:56 AM

Apr 2016

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)

4. I believe she said "guns per capita."

Reply to pantsonfire (Original post)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 03:59 AM

Apr 2016

This makes her statement technically accurate. But misleading within the overall gun debate.

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)

6. Please don't tell me that Hillary misstated, distorted, or otherwise misrepresented the truth!

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Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:12 AM

Apr 2016

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)

7. That distortion and the per capita bullshit earned her three Pinocchios:

Reply to pantsonfire (Original post)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:15 AM

Apr 2016

The number of crime guns in New York from Vermont is so small that it could even be attributed to one or two bad actors. Using the per capita measure of trafficked guns originating from Vermont is as pointless as counting guns trafficked per 100,000 head of cattle.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/04/12/hillary-clintons-claim-that-the-highest-per-capita-number-of-crime-guns-in-new-york-come-from-vermont/

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