2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWolf Blitzer was the loser last night, he could not/would not control the debate.
Do we really need a button to cut the mics? That would be rude.
How many times did Hillary talk over her time? How many times did she cut into, interrupt Bernie on his time? How many times did the moderators tell her her time was up and to stop, and she did not?
How many times did Bernie have to wave at them, to hold her accountable for not following the rules, again, cutting into his time.
When Bernie had enough, he kept on with his speaking while she began to talk over him, and kept talking. Then Wolfy had to do something, cuz you could not hear two people at once. So when they STOPPED ALL conversation to get the debate back on track....they asked BERNIE to please continue, and for Hillary to allow him to answer.
Hillary was absolutely the rudest she could have been, participating in a contest. She.....was absolutely horrible last night. Fucking awful.
Just my two cents...but all the video shows it, and the spin isn't fixing her image from last night. Internals are bad again this morning, before Bernie spoke at the Vatican. Hillary is a really bad sport, and doesn't follow the rules. But I don't fault her, Wolf Blitzer had a job to do, and he is the one that failed. Did he allow her to continue to break timing rules on purpose? Or is he just that big of a failure?
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)I would say 6 to many since they all say the same thing debate after debate. 3 total in a primary.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)And every day. Iraq war cheerleaders are born losers.
Wolf Blitzer is a self-important, pompous prig. He regularly over-hypes his stories and continually fails to ask important follow-up questions in interviews. He's one the the main reason I stopped watching CNN years ago.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)speaking when it was his turn, and neither could be heard, they had to stop it. Then of course, they said Bernie please finish.
Very bad optics for Hillary last night. Again, it's the arrogance that makes her miss the point of what's she's trying to do.
She is losing....
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)... important than any control of two people fighting for the presidency
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)ya think? Just cuz he didn't say it....that's your gal.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)... became law either.
The rest of it is hearsay from the NYT
Not even close
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)to vote cause Bill had heart surgery, and it became law...she'd have voted for that too.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)... bring it up is cause its from Warren and she's not taking sides.
If that's all Sanders has to go on is hearsay then that's weak.
On the other hand Sanders did vote to give gun corps immunity after the NRA helped him with his earlier campaigns.
That's a fact he doesn't dispute
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)a come to Jesus moment..it was just the timing of Bill's heart surgery that saved he on this issue..
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)angstlessk
(11,862 posts)part was included in the 2001 bill, but not in the 2005 bill..hey, when I'm wrong (about .00003%) I admit it!
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)He could have just recited Elizabeth Warren's comment on the Bankruptcy bill. There are a number of other examples as well, but that one is a slam dunk.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)... bring it up.
Sanders has nothing but rhetoric on that account
On the other hand he voted to give gun corps immunity after the NRA helped him with his earlier campaigns..
That even he isn't going to argue with
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)I don't think much of Wolf, and I think even less of Dana Bash, but they did everything short of telling Hillary to shut up and she just kept talking over them for as long as she wanted. After awhile, Bernie decided he had to start doing it too to get a reasonable share of the debate time.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)I felt certain she was going to snap a couple of times.
Kittycat
(10,493 posts)I was almost stunned. I only say almost, because they didn't do it for every question (probably because they got worn out, LOL), but they did make them (Hillary far more than Bernie) go back and answer the questions. And they were pretty forceful on it.
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)And they even let Bernie push Hillary to answer the question on whether or not she favored raising the cap on income that is subject to Social Security taxes. She never gave a direct answer, but they went after multiple times and she made herself look ridiculous with her determination to avoid giving a straight answer.
imari362
(311 posts)...being extremely rude, she agrees to the rules of the debates then doesn't even attempt to follow them.
The mods should ask respectfully twice, then cut off the mic of the offender..which is her 99.99% of the time.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)They're not going to risk their seven figure paychecks.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)But....they tried it again. Hillary is Hillary, and even the media never learns!
That's why this IS on Wolfie, the loser.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)I'm hearing this around the races......
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Anyone can roll over the guy.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)clinton clinton clinton
jillan
(39,451 posts)brought up that never were before.
They actually talked about climate change!
Hillary and Bernie were just battling it out - as they should when the stakes are so high.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)I don't know if she thinks being rude and pushy makes her look like a strong leader but I don't think it worked for her. The more she did it, the more I disliked her.
northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)But instead of the Holtzman field it uses sexism, so like the Dune one any direct attack does not work, he has to be passive because a single finger-wag could be explosive.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Nincompoop.