BREAKING: The Pope DEFINITELY won't be meeting with Sanders...

[brooklynite]

Gabriel Debenedetti Verified account @gdebenedetti
I'm told the conference was just given a message from the Pope, confirming apologetically that he would not be able to attend today.

Gabriel Debenedetti ?@gdebenedetti 43m43 minutes ago Vatican City
This apologetic message from the Pope, saying he couldn't make the conference, was a hand-written note shown to the attendees

[onehandle]

1. They've learned their lesson when it comes to people showing up for media attention. nt

[liberal from boston]

21. Go Bernie

Talk about Anger issues--you are not helping your candidate at all. You do know that Pope Francis released a greeting to Senator Sanders. http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017356452

[roguevalley]

26. says the hill insider. Tell me when hilly is heading for the Vatican. I'll say a rosary for the Pope

[rachacha]

74. BREAKING: Now that they've met, this thread is now hilarious.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/16/bernie-sanders-meets-pope-francis-at-the-vatican

[Loudestlib]

111. Not just wrong, so wrong.

[TheBlackAdder]

130. Days of bullshit OPs about this trip and meeting the Pope. This type of mentality does not evolve.

[Stuckinthebush]

2. So who is Sanders (I-VT) going to get to meet?

A papal secretary?

What is the point of this expensive trip to Rome? PR? Trying to sway catholic votes?

What a goofy strategy.

[JonLeibowitz]

3. Some things are bigger than politics.

[Stuckinthebush]

5. Uh huh

I'm sure that's why he's going to Rome right now. Bigger stuff than politics.

Right.

[bkkyosemite]

11. You are certainly stuck in putting Bernie down. He went now because he was invited now.

25th anniversary.

[Stuckinthebush]

13. By the pope he tells me!

Go Bernie.

[bkkyosemite]

15. Wow you must be special cuz you say he told you...you got to see Bernie just wow!

[Stuckinthebush]

20. Wow

Awesome

[saidsimplesimon]

28. Great response Jon

Perhaps if you had said some people are bigger than politics?

[passiveporcupine]

35. Yes they are

And some people aren't big enough to accept that.

[liberal from boston]

24. Go Bernie

Sad that Hillary supporters do not see the integrity,character of Bernie. Pope Francis, millions of others have responded to his message to those who have no voice. Pope Francis statement greeting Senator Sanders: " I see in Senator Bernard Sanders a man of great integrity and moral conviction, who understands these principles and genuinely wants what's best for all people".

[lunamagica]

30. The Pope never said that. That meme was debunked a long time ago. Please, stop spreading this false

rumor.

http://www.snopes.com/pope-francis-endorses-bernie-sanders/

[liberal from boston]

33. Go Bernie

Amazing that you turned Pope Francis`note greeting Senator Sanders as an endorsement. The Pope Sends Greetings, Blessings and a Personal Handwritten Note to Visiting Senator Bernie Sanders: Pope Francis: " I see in Senator Bernard Sanders a man of great integrity and moral conviction, who understands these principles and genuinely wants what's best for all people." http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017356452

[Lucinda]

36. Uhm. no. The Pope sent a message that was read to the attendees saying

he was sorry that he wouldnt be able to meet with them.

[liberal from boston]

140. Go Bernie

Suggest you Click on link, scroll down & You will see under the photo of Pope Francis` personal handwritten greeting to Senator Sanders. Sad that your anger has blinded you to facts. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1743442

[lunamagica]

42. What? Where did I say that it was an endorsement? Don't put words in my mouth

The post I replied to had the " I see in Senator Bernard Sanders a man of great integrity and moral conviction, who understands these principles and genuinely wants what's best for all people" quote. This was from a made up endorsement on a fake site. The Pope has never said those words.

The handwritten note wasn't even addressed to Sanders. And it was a note just saying he would not attend the event. Sanders is never mentioned on the note

[passiveporcupine]

37. He did not say the Pope endorsed Bernie

But I would like to see a link to where this personal greeting and note information came from. I can't find anything on it.

[lunamagica]

39. I did not say that the Pope endorsed Bernie, either. But the post I replied to had

this supposed quote from Pope Francis " I see in Senator Bernard Sanders a man of great integrity and moral conviction, who understands these principles and genuinely wants what's best for all people".

This was part of the made-up endorsement from the Pope. The reason you can't find anything on it is because this was a lie, made up by the fake site. Pope Francis has never made such statement.

[passiveporcupine]

137. Oh, then I stand corrected

I misread your post. I too have asked for proof of the personal welcome Bernie supposedly got from the Pope, in a note, but no evidence yet. That doesn't mean it didn't happen, but until I see proof, I'm not buying it. There have been a few people here who are just not willing to seek the truth, and need something to happen too badlly.

[beam me up scottie]

78. The pope:

Bernie Sanders meets privately with Pope Francis

ROME — U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders met privately with Pope Francis during his overnight trip here, his spokesman said.

The brief meeting took place at the papal residence early Saturday, according Sanders spokesman Michael Briggs.

"They discussed the issues that the senator raised, that the pope has raised so often, at the conference yesterday," Briggs said, adding that there was no discussion of U.S. politics or Sanders's candidacy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/04/16/italian-media-sanders-met-privately-with-pope-francis/

[NurseJackie]

4. Not even to meet with the family? Even after they traveled such a LONG way!

Note to Jury: It's a freakin' joke... lighten up. I'm making my point and expressing my opinion through the use of humor. No DU rules or terms of service have been violated. It is not against the rules to have a sense of humor that differs from the Alerter. Even jokes that fall flat aren't against the rules.

[rachacha]

79. BREAKING: Your prayers have been answered!

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/16/bernie-sanders-meets-pope-francis-at-the-vatican

[NurseJackie]

91. Ha!! :-D (I should have expected as much!)

He said the couple met Pope Francis in the foyer of the hotel as he was leaving for Greece. The meeting lasted about five minutes, Sachs said.

I guess Bernie's "Pope-Spotter" walkie-talkie team did their job very well! :-D ("Hey, spotted him! He's in the foyer! Over. You guys need to get down her right NOW before he's gone. Over. Looks like he's headed to the loo. Hurry! Over.&quot

This type of staged and corralled "bumped-into-the-Pontiff" while he was on the way out the door, is HARDLY the same as the formal sit-down "meeting-with-the-pope" that Bernie originally wanted everyone to believe.

But still, I'm sure it was a very thrilling moment for Bernie.

[beam me up scottie]

85. ...

[global1]

6. Why Is It So Important To You That Bernie Doesn't Get To Meet With The Pope?....

Last edited Fri Apr 15, 2016, 01:45 PM - Edit history (1)

It is an honor just to be invited to the Vatican and bring Bernie's & the Pope's message to the People of the World.

Can't you just accept that and not try and find something negative in everything Bernie? I kind of feel sorry for you that you can't be proud of a fellow countryman that was provided such an honor to speak at this conference.

[morningfog]

8. PEtty little people with hate filled hearts.

[alcina]

84. So true

And so poetically phrased.

[morningfog]

7. Those tweets do not way what your headline claims.

I don't expect the Pope and Bernie to meet, but those tweets do not say that.

[bobbobbins01]

9. BREAKING: Some made up bullshit!

Not that it matters whether or not they meet, those tweets prove nothing.

[Stallion]

10. But We Came All This Way to Wallyworld and its CLOSED?

[NurseJackie]

25. Excellent!

[azurnoir]

43. still berned because the Pope told Hill and Bill nope about appearing their @ 'foundation'?

guess his refusal wasn't hand written

[ViseGrip]

12. Such a shame Hillary was not invited to share her message, of 'why I have to be greedy'.

[bkkyosemite]

14. Slam him for his effort to make a difference...Karma

[astrophuss42]

16. Awww

I'm sorry you are having a hard time.

[Go Vols]

17. Someone better tell MSNBC

Because they are saying both are staying at the same hotel tonight and could meet at dinner.

[NurseJackie]

27. Maybe Bernie will slip the maître d' $27 to seat his family near the Pontiff's table...

... and if he can sneak past Papal Security, he might be able to sneak a selfie with Francis in the background. (Or at the very least, he can wave to His Holiness from across the room. That would be a thrill, especially if the Pope waves back.)

Note to Jury: It's a freakin' joke... lighten up. I'm making my point and expressing my opinion through the use of humor. No DU rules or terms of service have been violated. It is not against the rules to have a sense of humor that differs from the Alerter. Even jokes that fall flat aren't against the rules.

Go, Hillary! We love you!

[tonedevil]

54. Looks like the Senator...

took your advice and here he got to meet the Pope. I know this must make you very happy, congratulations.

[saidsimplesimon]

29. A meeting with the Pope requires discretion.

It is unseemly to brag, pre-announce, discuss or use for political advantage. IMHO

[itsrobert]

18. This was already well known, but Camp Pinocchio held out hope

oh well.

[tonedevil]

56. Hate to burst your bubble....

this may put a damper on your smug-a-thon.

[anotherproletariat]

19. I'm a Hillary supporter, and I don't see what difference it makes if he meets the pope.

Lots of people met the pope recently in the U.S. It's not all that novel. I guess if Sanders has an epiphany and becomes religious, that would be a plus for his campaign, but otherwise I don't see it changing any minds.

[NuclearDem]

34. The issue is that Bernie Sanders is a candidate in a major national election.

It's completely improper for someone in a major diplomatic position like the Pope to give the appearance of favoritism, as it could complicate relations if their opponent wins the election.

[delrem]

46. Ah, so you blame the Pope of the RC church. Cool. /nt

[NuclearDem]

129. No, actually, I blame the others in the Vatican who tried to arrange it in the first place.

He originally seems to have wanted to drop by the conference, but he ducked out at the last minute when it became patently clear a candidate for a major national election was going to try to use him as a campaign prop.

[PufPuf23]

22. Hope you grasp that whether or not the Pope would have met with Sanders became moot

when the Hillary Clinton campaign deliberately made Sanders visit to the Vatican a national embarrassment.

The Pope could not meet with Sanders regardless of intent or own druthers because the Clinton campaign deliberately set out to make the event "manipulative and dishonest".

The Vatican just about had to distance itself over what could have been a low key but positive event.

The Clinton campaign nipped most positive in the bud.

Hope you are proud.

Recall Hillary Clinton versus POTUS Obama in 2008; Clinton may well have lost that nomination by the ugly negative campaigning that the Clinton campaign initiated and expanded. I have been surprised how many at DU forgot 2008.

Hillary Clinton set the negative tone. Hillary Clinton hired David Brock. Hillary Clinton lies, deflects, and preserves the privilege of wealth and power.

Hope you are proud in your gloat.

[hill2016]

41. how did the Clinton campaign

interfere in any way over the messaging of the visit?

[delrem]

47. Oh, you guys didn't try to do nuttin, on DU esp. You're so cool. /nt

[Logical]

115. WHT does that have to do with anything? nt

[Fawke Em]

23. BREAKING: Most of us never cared.

The point is that he was respected enough to get the Vatican's ear and to be invited to this symposium on the very topic he's been discussing this entire campaign.

Oh - and I'm Catholic, btw.

Give it up. We really don't care.

[Bobbie Jo]

31. This wouldn't even be a "thing"

If he (and his campaign) hadn't completely misrepresented the nature of the event.

[Lucinda]

38. This.

[tonedevil]

57. Here is a...

link when you read it you can come back and apologize for prematurely counting your chickens prior to egg acquisition.

[Fawke Em]

32. I love it when bubbles bust

:large

[ibegurpard]

40. awww

Does this give you a sad?

[reddread]

44. i doubt it

there will be something else to lie about next.

[delrem]

45. Y'know what, your taunts are for shit. They are totally for shit. /nt

[Kentonio]

48. So then, this op is looking a bit silly right now. :)

[Segami]

49. LOL!...WISHFUL THINKING.

[beam me up scottie]

50. ...

[Segami]

51. lol!....poached!

[beam me up scottie]

62. Goes well with crow!

[berni_mccoy]

55. Lol glad I was up to see this!

[beam me up scottie]

61. Today is going to be a good day!

[Aerows]

125. I agree!

[me b zola]

59. You gave me a happy

[beam me up scottie]

60. Hey you!

[tomm2thumbs]

52. You can bury this post in the woulda, shoulda, coulda file

[Fumesucker]

53. K&R for the prediction fail

[Petrushka]

58. Ahem --- > "Sanders met privately with Pope Francis"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/04/16/italian-media-sanders-met-privately-with-pope-francis/

[nenagh]

63. Bookmarking...

[delrem]

64. Why don't you try to walk this shit back a bit. Amuse me. /nt

[Segami]

66. They're looking for their dancin' shoes...

[delrem]

69. It must get wearisome for them

[Live and Learn]

65. Yikes, wrong again! nt

[Sky Masterson]

67. Breaking:

Shitting on Bernies Rome visit is petty and stupid and childish.
And he did get to chat with the pope.
You guys really need to grow a heart. Scratch that. I mean a mind and a Heart.
Instead we fling poo

[passiveporcupine]

139. Probably the most concice and accurate post on this topic so far

[Cha]

68. Never thought he was.. that was hogwash.

[Kentonio]

70. Err, he did. Did you miss that?

[beam me up scottie]

71. Wait, wut? umm...do they have cable news where you live?

You might want to turn on the teevee.

Bernie Sanders meets privately with Pope Francis

ROME — U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders met privately with Pope Francis during his overnight trip here, his spokesman said.

The brief meeting took place at the papal residence early Saturday, according Sanders spokesman Michael Briggs.

"They discussed the issues that the senator raised, that the pope has raised so often, at the conference yesterday," Briggs said, adding that there was no discussion of U.S. politics or Sanders's candidacy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/04/16/italian-media-sanders-met-privately-with-pope-francis/

[Segami]

72. Bwhahahaha...

[beam me up scottie]

76. Are we having FUN yet?

[Segami]

82. Thanks for asking....YES!...and its about time!

[beam me up scottie]

83. This is even better than when we won Hawaii. Mahalo, Segami !

[Segami]

86. Mahalo, BMUS!....

[DisgustipatedinCA]

132. Turns out it doesn't matter in the least what you did or didn't think.

Dead wrong, Cha. Dead wrong.

[rachacha]

73. BREAKING: Now that he has, this thread is hilarious. Kicked!

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/16/bernie-sanders-meets-pope-francis-at-the-vatican

[Cha]

75. Pure Hogwash.. they got into enough dust up when Kim Davis met with him.. someone was

replaced over it.

[rachacha]

80. BREAKING: They met, and the topic of discussion wasn't Hillary

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/16/bernie-sanders-meets-pope-francis-at-the-vatican

[Android3.14]

77. Fricken' giggleheads

I learned an enormous amount about you and your tactics.

If this is what Hillary's leadership does to her followers, paid or otherwise, then she will never be President in my mind.

[morningfog]

81. Great work cub reporter! You look foolish making shit up.

[randome]

88. To be fair, nothing was made up. The Pope said he wouldn't be there. Obviously he changed his mind.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.[/center][/font][hr]

[morningfog]

96. Read the tweets in the OP. The headline was a total fabrication.

I corrected him yesterday.

[randome]

100. The headline was too much, I agree.

I wouldn't fault someone for coming to that conclusion based on what the Pope said about his London trip but that's just me personally.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.[/center][/font][hr]

[morningfog]

116. Given the posters history of lying and then refusing to edit,

[Bluenorthwest]

121. Also given the fact that the OP presents himself as an Ultra Clinton Insider closely associated with

the campaign.

[randome]

122. I don't see any reason to doubt that the poster hosts Clinton's staff as he's said.

Which sometimes results in him directly communicating with the Clintons. Absent evidence to the contrary, of course.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.[/center][/font][hr]

[DisgustipatedinCA]

133. You're DEFINITELY WRONG. Check the OP again.

This is so much fun. Give 'em enough rope, they'll handle the rest.

[mainer]

87. Now it's been revealed that the private meeting was always planned

It just so happens that the Pope, Bernie, and the Vatican didn't see why they should tell you.

[Buns_of_Fire]

89. Well, I must say that THIS thread didn't work out as originally planned. nt

[Betty Karlson]

90. The Washington Post calls BULLSH*T on your bashing OP:

Washington Post
4/16/2016

Bernie Sanders meets privately with Pope Francis

ROME — U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders met privately with Pope Francis during his overnight trip here, his spokesman said.

The brief meeting took place at the papal residence early Saturday, according Sanders spokesman Michael Briggs.

"They discussed the issues that the senator raised, that the pope has raised so often, at the conference yesterday," Briggs said, adding that there was no discussion of U.S. politics or Sanders's candidacy.

"He said that there was radiance in his presence and that he was very honored and humbled to have the opportunity to meet with the pontiff."

Sanders does not consider the meeting in any way an endorsement of his bid for the Democratic presidential nomination, Briggs said.

Under Vatican rules there were no photographs of the meeting because it took place at the papal residence, Briggs said.

A source inside the Vatican, speaking on condition of anonymity, also confirmed the meeting.

"It was a private meeting and was not supposed to become public," the source said. "It had been planned for, and it happened."

And the Pontifical Academy of Sciences confirmed the meeting via Twitter.

[randome]

92. How is it 'bashing' to take the Pope at his word?

He said he wouldn't be there because of his London trip. It was a fair conclusion to make that Sanders wouldn't be able to meet with him. Obviously the facts changed but why blame anyone for going with what was known at the time?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.[/center][/font][hr]

[Betty Karlson]

93. OP has a long history of trying to make mountains out of any molehills in Sanders' path.

The envy and jealousy over Sanders' connection with a major religious person are just to obvious to pretend this article is about 'taking the pope at his word'. The OP, like many by the same author, is intended to bash Sanders.

[randome]

95. Well, the OP consists of a couple of Tweets, nothing more.

Well, and a premature and overblown subject line. I agree it's ridiculous to stake out a claim one way or the other on whether Sanders would meet with the Pope but this specific OP doesn't meet my definition of 'bashing'. Poster was correct that the Pope said he would be unable to attend and that's all the OP says.

Just trying to interject a little calm into this nonsense. Too many on both sides are going overboard with this and other topics related to the Primary.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.[/center][/font][hr]

[PufPuf23]

94. An unethical and wrong OP from a shill eom.

[Bread and Circus]

97. Will you please apologize for being part of the mockery now?

[IdaBriggs]

98. You conflated two different things.

The conference and meeting Bernie Sanders.

The Pope met privately with several of the conference attendees, but did not attend or plan to attend the conference.

The meeting with Bernie and the Pope was arranged in advance and was not at the conference.

You called Bernie a liar because you were ignorant of these things.

You mocked and belittled Bernie and his supporters on this board for believing him when he said he was going to meet with the Pope.

He met with the Pope.

You owe everyone you misled and bullied an apology.

[panader0]

99. Oops! I think you made a little error there.

How's that crow taste this morning?

[Capt. Obvious]

101. Kick

[wendylaroux]

102. He won't?

[Autumn]

103. Looks like this bit of BREAKING kinda fucking broke

[beam me up scottie]

104. When the op breaks the news it stays broken!

[lumberjack_jeff]

119. Heh. +1 n/t

[polly7]

105. mmmmmm mmmmm .........

[PeoViejo]

106. As usual, spewing bullshit and disinfirnation

[islandmkl]

107. this is one beautiful series of threads....

this is a regular Apocalypse Now beach morning, ain't it?

[awake]

108. Now that you were wrong about the "meeting" let's have more fun & make the polls wrong about NY

Let us make the MSM eat their words about how large Hillary will win on Tuesday, why don't we go all the way and let her lose on Tuesday if for no other reason just to watch all of the pundits heads explode.

[Katashi_itto]

109. Kicked...LOLOLOLOL!

[jack_krass]

110. Youre a really good sleuth reporter...

You should consider investigative journalsm as a career

[panader0]

112. Breaking: brooklynite won't be responding.

[QC]

113. He has a history of that sort of thing, you know. n/t

[Logical]

114. Kicking to expose the poster!

[DefenseLawyer]

117. This attack on Sanders is so yesterday.

All right minded people have already moved on to today's attack.

[Bluenorthwest]

118. DEFINITELY won't? Is that the insider scoop? Is that what those in the know tell you is so?

nt

[DisgustipatedinCA]

135. DEFINITELY. All billionaire city government employees have the inside scoop.

[Warren Stupidity]

120. K&R! Your track record is stupendous!

[frylock]

123. Kick and rec

[ViseGrip]

124. FFS You're wrong again! POPE MET WITH BERNIE SANDERS! YAY!

Hillary was not invited.

[tabasco]

126. Kickaroo!

[cherokeeprogressive]

127. Yeah I'll rec this you fucking bet!

[revbones]

128. Going to retract now that they've actually met? nt

[DisgustipatedinCA]

131. MOAR ALL CAPS! DEFINITELY. You couldn't have been more wrong with your flat proclamation.

Your word is of no value.

[Paulie]

134. IBTSD

[Logical]

136. Hit and run away post, as usual! nt

[QC]

138. He's probably at a Salon. I'm sure

he'll address this matter when he gets back.