2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHonestly, how likely is it just anybody can loiter in the papal residence and "ambush" the pope?
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)This is very entertaining.
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)to accomodate the "drive by."
This was a craven move on the part of the campaign to save face for this whopper:
"You're meeting with the Pope?"
"Yup." On his way out the door at 4am...
C'mon folks, it is what it is.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)if he was not amenable. Give up the unhingery.
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)"The Pope was obviously gracious enough to accomodate the drive by."
What's your point?
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Most people don't make a conscious choice to participate in a "drive by". Sorry for your butthurt.
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)"Common courtesy." No surprises there.
Yup.
fried eggs
(910 posts)Setting aside the creep factor, why did Sanders run to the US media and say he had a "meeting" with the pope. How is that not a flat out lie?
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)But either way Sanders didn't do that...
DrDan
(20,411 posts)". . . helped facilitate an audience for Sanders with the Pope at the Casa Santa Marta, the Vatican guesthouse where Francis keeps his residence."
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/04/bernie-sanders-meets-pope
DrDan
(20,411 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)got it
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)He did both.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)buncha fucking bananas around here.
fried eggs
(910 posts)Sanders was staying at the same residence, because thats where all participants in the Vatican conference he attended on Friday were spending the night. The only exceptions were Presidents Evo Morales of Bolivia and Rafael Correa of Ecuador, who stayed at their countrys embassy in Rome.
This morning as I was leaving, Senator Sanders was there, Francis said. He knew I was coming out at that time, and he had the kindness to greet me.
When I came down, he introduced himself, I greeted him with a handshake, and nothing more, the pope added. Its common courtesy, this is called common courtesy.
If someone thinks that greeting someone is getting involved in politics, he said, I recommend that they find a psychiatrist.
link: http://www.cruxnow.com/church/2016/04/16/pope-francis-calls-sanders-greeting-only-common-courtesy/
This morning, Bernie Sanders told reporters that he had a meeting with the pope, which forced the pope to respond with the facts when he was asked about it. Bernie made it political. He loitered and waited for the pope to exit the hotel they were both in, and introduced himself. Then he ran and told US Media that he had a meeting with the pope. He's a liar.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Sanders was allowed to be in a location where he could encounter the pope, and the pope was made aware of this fact. The pope made a choice to greet him.
fried eggs
(910 posts)karynnj
(59,533 posts)Clearly he could have had Jane or someone else get a photo or even video the whole thing. He didn't.
uponit7771
(90,408 posts)... was there waiting for him at 4am
Avalux
(35,015 posts)This tells me that Bernie was informed when the Pope would be leaving so they could meet.
The Pope thanks Bernie for greeting him.
Yet, this gets all twisted up as if Bernie pushed himself on the Pope.
fried eggs
(910 posts)It doesn't take rocket science or an invite to know what time the pope would have to leave to get there on time. The pope went out of his way to avoid direct contact with Sanders, but Sanders stalked the exit to force an encounter.
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)The misrepresentations keep coming.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)uponit7771
(90,408 posts)... with the pope
panader0
(25,816 posts)Matt_R
(456 posts)we greeted each other and shook hands. Its called a MEET and GREET.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)...perhaps due to their close proximity.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)Downwinder
(12,869 posts)and "ambush" voters?
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)`threads about actual issues.
Move on.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Someone who believes that is no longer reachable.