The correspondence between Secretary Hillary Clinton and Sidney Blumenthal.

[pantsonfire]

The purpose of this article is to shed a spotlight on the email correspondence between Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Sidney Blumenthal, a civilian, during her tenure as Secretary of State. Using https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/ and the search terms "Blumenthal confidential", 562 results appeared (this report lists only emails from the first 301 results). While, all the emails are marked "unclassified" they are also marked "confidential" and ostensibly paint a picture of utilizing Sidney Blumenthal as an intelligence source on various state matters.

This is problematic because while the emails were not classified, they show possible damning evidence of corresponding with Mr. Blumenthal, who was then employed by the Clinton Foundation, not the state department, and was not given proper security clearance to pass along sensitive intelligence to Secretary Clinton. In turn, he did not email her without response, she responded regarding these highly sensitive matters. Since, their correspondence is extensive, some emails will be referenced, that were and were not retroactively classified, to highlight her possible violation of state security rules.

Sidney Blumenthal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Blumenthal):
Relationship to Secretary of State Clinton:

"After her January 2009 appointment as Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton wanted to hire Blumenthal. However, Obama's chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, blocked his selection due to lingering anger among President Barack Obama's aides over Blumenthal's role in promoting negative stories about Obama during the Democratic primary. According to a report in the New York Times, "Emanuel talked with Mrs. Clinton ... and explained that bringing Mr. Blumenthal on board was a no-go. The bad blood among his colleagues was too deep, and the last thing the administration needed, he concluded, was dissension and drama in the ranks. In short, Mr. Blumenthal was out.

Blumenthal, a longtime confidant of Bill and Hillary Clinton, earned about $10,000 a month as a full-time employee of the Clinton Foundation. During the 2011 uprising in Libya against Muammar Gaddafi, Blumenthal prepared, from public and other sources, about 25 memos which he sent as emails to Clinton in 2011 and 2012, which she shared through her aide, Jake Sullivan, with senior State Department personnel...

The House Select Committee on Benghazi, headed by Representative Trey Gowdy (R-SC) served a subpoena on Blumenthal on May 19, 2015 for a deposition to be held on June 3, according to Reuters. Blumenthal's name came up during the October 22, 2015 full committee public questioning of Hillary Clinton regarding the Benghazi incident, as one of the alleged sources of Hillary Clinton's intelligence. During this hearing Democratic members asked that Blumenthal's deposition transcript be made public so that comments regarding his involvement could be placed in context. The motion was defeated by a voice vote, followed by a roll call vote along party lines."

Retroactively Classified emails between Secretary Clinton and Sidney Blumenthal and an explanation of the specific security codes cited as reason for retro-classification:

Emails completely blank or partly erased due to retro-classification.
See this website for classification procedure per "Executive Order 13526 - Classified National Security Information" (https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-classified-national-security-information).

Sec. 1.6. Identification and Markings. (a) At the time of original classification, the following shall be indicated in a manner that is immediately apparent: (1) one of the three classification levels defined in section 1.2 of this order (the 3rd pertains to documents marked "Confidential&quot .

Sec. 1.2. Classification Levels. (a) Information may be classified at one of the following three levels:

(1) "Top Secret" shall be applied to information, the unauthorized disclosure of which reasonably could be expected to cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security that the original classification authority is able to identify or describe.
(2) "Secret" shall be applied to information, the unauthorized disclosure of which reasonably could be expected to cause serious damage to the national security that the original classification authority is able to identify or describe.
(3) "Confidential" shall be applied to information, the unauthorized disclosure of which reasonably could be expected to cause damage to the national security that the original classification authority is able to identify or describe.

Sec. 1.4. Classification Categories. Information shall not be considered for classification unless its unauthorized disclosure could reasonably be expected to cause identifiable or describable damage to the national security in accordance with section 1.2 of this order, and it pertains to one or more of the following:

(a) military plans, weapons systems, or operations;
(b) foreign government information;
(c) intelligence activities (including covert action), intelligence sources or methods, or cryptology;
(d) foreign relations or foreign activities of the United States, including confidential sources;
(e) scientific, technological, or economic matters relating to the national security;
(f) United States Government programs for safeguarding nuclear materials or facilities;
(g) vulnerabilities or capabilities of systems, installations, infrastructures, projects, plans, or protection services relating to the national security; or
(h) the development, production, or use of weapons of mass destruction.

1. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/16223
RELEASE IN PART B4,1.4(B),B1,1.4(D),B6
From: Hillary Clinton
To: Sidney Blumenthal
Date: 2009-11-10 01:18
Subject: FWD: FROM JOE WILSON
"Berlin was terrific. Lots of good exchanges w leaders. Have you heard anything else? 1.4(B) 1.4(D)"

2. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/26180
RELEASE IN PART B1,1.4(D),B6
From: Sidney Blumenthal
To: Hillary Clinton
Date: 2009-07-14 04:18
Subject: IMPORTANT. NOT FOR CIRCULATION. YOU ONLY. SID
Re: Moscow Summit/Germany/UK

"1. I have heard authoritatively from Bill Drozdiak, who is in Berlin and has just met with

1.4(D) B1

This is the third message I have received from sources about the disastrous nature of the Obama trip. Drozdiak also says that the US is totally out of the loop in Berlin--no ambassador, no DCM and a political counselor who has just arrived. The Germans have nobody to talk to and they don't expect to deal seriously with Obama's ambassadorial appointment. We should expect that the Germans and Russians will now cut their own separate deals on energy, regional security, etc., and those deals will reflect narrow, parochial economic and political needs indifferent to whether or not we deem them to be in the broader interest of the Western alliance."

3. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/11467
Reason: 1.4(d)
Subject: Blank
"Sources with access to the highest levels of the governments and institutions discussed below. This includes."

4. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/11644
Subject: BAHRAIN, IRANIAN INTELLIGENCE
Reason: 1.4(d)

5. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/11789
Subject: H: INTERIM LIBYAN COMMITTEE IN FORMATION. SID
Partly Classified, Reason: 1.4(d)
"Some names of key people in interim governmental committee provided by former adviser to 1.4(D) B1 Qaddafi, now in exile, provided to Cody. (Cody has helped his son get jobs, etc.) Some names are obvious; some other interesting detail. May prove accurate and useful."

6. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/11869
Subject: MEMO FROM SHAUN WOODWARD ON LATEST NI DEVELOPMENTS. SID
Reason: 1.4(b) + 1.4(d)

7. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/11896
Subject: LATEST/N. IRELAND
Reason 1.4(d)

8. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/20931
Reason: B1,1.4(B),1.4(D ),B6
From: Hillary Clinton
To: Sidney Blumenthal
Date: 2010-03-05 23:12
Subject: H: VERY, VERY LATEST ON NI. IMPORTANT INFOR. SID (NI = Northern Ireland)

Emails marked CONFIDENTIAL, unclassified on 01/07/2016, and released in part and/or full:

1. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12560
From: Hillary Clinton
To: Sidney Blumenthal
Date: 2011-10-20 02:32 pm
Subject: H: URGENT INTEL POST-Q, INTERNAL NTC POLITICS. SID

"Thx again."

October 20, 2011
For: Hillary
From: Sid
2011-10-20 12:23pm
Re: Libya post-Q, internal politics NTC

"SOURCE: Sources with direct access to the Libyan National Transitional Council, as well as the highest levels of European Governments, and Western Intelligence and security services."

2. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/13013
May 2, 2011
For: Hillary
From: Sid
Re: Bin Laden, AQ & Libya

"Latest report: During the early morning of May 2, 2011 sources with access to the leadership of the Libyan rebellion's ruling Transitional National Council (TNC) stated in confidence that they are concerned that the death of al Qa'ida leader Osama Bin Laden will inspire al Qa'ida in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) to use weapons they have obtained, which were originally intended for the rebels in Libya, to retaliate against the United States and its allies for this attack in Pakistan."

3. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12171
For: Hillary
From: Sid
July 24, 2012
Subject: Re: Syria, Turkey, Israel, Iran

"SOURCE: Sources with access to the highest levels of the Governments and institutions discussed below. This includes political parties and regional intelligence and security services. 1. According to an individual with access to the highest levels of major European governments, the intelligence services of these countries are reporting to their principals that the commanders of the Israeli military and intelligence community believe that the civil war in Syria is spreading to neighboring countries, including Lebanon, Jordan, and Turkey . These European officials are concerned that the ongoing conflict in Syria will lead to uprisings in these countries that will bring increasingly conservative Islamic regimes into power, replacing existing secular or moderate regimes. This individual adds that, Israeli security officials believe that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is convinced that these developments will leave them vulnerable, with only enemies on their borders."

4. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/437
February 17, 2010
For: Hillary
From: Sid
Re: Iran, Saudi

"Had dinner last night (Tuesday, February 16) with Joschka Fischer. We had an interesting conversation on Iran and Saudi Arabia, among other things. (As you know Fischer is now director of the Nabucco pipeline project.) On Iran, harsh, targeted sanctions are absolutely necessary, but are most effective diplomatically when always coupled with an offer to negotiate.

The iron fist in the velvet glove approach achieves several objectives: According to Fischer's intelligence, Ahmanijehad wished some negotiated settlement but was blocked. The regime has splits at the top. Perhaps true, perhaps not. But constantly pushing negotiations alongside sanctions puts additional pressure on internal divisions, whatever they are. Extending an open hand while brandishing a stick closes diplomatic and political room to maneuver for Iran. Its refusal to accept the open hand justifies application of the stick. Even when sanctions are enforced it always remains useful to say another way is open. The damage done to Iran is therefore the result of its own choice. This approach also aids the opposition. A purely condign
sanctions strategy can contribute to the regime's will to punish and tighten repression. Talking of regime change, of course, undermines the cause of regime change. It is a gift to the regime. The opposition is a new factor in the Iran equation that must be taken into account on the political and moral level. Pushed to the wall, the regime may feel compelled to repress, which might involve thousands or tens of thousands of political killings. On Saudi Arabia, Fischer points out
that if Iran develops nuclear weaponry the Saudis already have their own bomb. The Saudis invested in Pakistan's nuclear weaponry partly for this eventuality; that's their bomb in reserve."

5. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12181
For: Hillary
From: Sid
July 14, 2012
Re; Egypt internal politics

"SOURCE: Sources with access to the highest levels of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, The Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, and Western Intelligence and security services. THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION COMES FROM AN EXTREMELY SENSITIVE SOURCE AND SHOULD BE HANDLED WITH CARE."

5. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12198
For: Hillary
From: Sid
June 6, 2012
Re: Libya Latest

"SOURCE: Sources with direct access to the Libyan National Transitional Council, as well as the highest levels of European Governments, and Western Intelligence and security services."

6. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12389
September 14, 2012
For: Hillary
From: Sid
Re: Morsi's private conversations & coordination with Magariaf

"SOURCE: Sources with direct access to the Libyan National Transitional Council, as well as the highest levels of European governments, and Western Intelligence and security services."

7. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12376
October 3, 2012
For: Hillary
From: Sid
Re: Turkey v. Syria (plus Iran)

"SOURCE: Sources with access to the highest levels of the Governments and institutions discussed below. This includes political parties and regional intelligence and security services.

On October 2 and 3, 2012, Turkish and Syrian forces exchanged fire across their border near the Turkish town of Akcakale; several Turkish civilians (including children) were killed, while Syrian casualties are not yet known.."

8. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3758
January 30, 2010
For: Hillary
From: Sid
Re: NI breakthrough

Shaun Woodward then Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, Mr. Blumenthal acted as a liaison to Secretary Clinton.

"Shaun has just called me—about 9 p.m. EST. He says it is very likely that an agreement will be announced on Monday. The parties have reached agreement tonight. Shaun will call you on Sunday to brief. Gordon will fly into Belfast on Monday for a ceremony if all goes according to plan now. He will mention your role. You should be prepared to speak to the parties before the event and issue a statement. Hope it doesn't come unraveled over the next 36 hours."

9. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/6551
March 27, 2011
For: Hillary
From: Sid
Re: Lots of new intel; Libyan army possibly on verge of collapse

"...Source Comment: Speaking in strict confidence, one rebel commander stated that his troops continue to summarily execute all foreign mercenaries captured in the fighting..."

10. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12566
From: Hillary Clinton
To: Sidney Blumenthal
Date: 2011-09-17 07:57
Subject: H: INTEL: ALLIES IN LIBYA/OIL. SID

"Thx. I'll try to check in w you this week."

September 16, 2011 1:32pm
For: Hillary
From: Sid
Re: France, UK, et al, jockeying in Libya/oil

"During mid-September 2011 French President Nicolas Sarkozy and British Prime Minister David Cameron traveled to Tripoli to meet with and express support for the leaders of the new government of Libya under the National Transitional Council (NTC). According to knowledgeable individuals, as part of this effort, the two leaders, in private conversations, also intend to press the leaders of the NTC to reward their early support for the rebellion against Muammar al Qaddafi. Sarkozy and Cameron expect this recognition to be tangible, in the form of favorable contracts for French and British energy companies looking to play a major role in the Libyan oil industry."

Email regarding Wikileaks itself: https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/1036

November 29, 2010
For: Hillary
From: Sid
Re: Wikileaks

"The Wikileaks documents can be cast as reflecting a positive light on the U.S. government and diplomacy. Your statement about how the documents underscored the Iranian nuclear threat is headed in the right direction.

1. The Wikileaks disclosure is the opposite of the Pentagon Papers. The Pentagon Papers provided evidence from an internal study conducted by the Department of Defense that the U.S. administration was not telling the truth about the Vietnam War. On the contrary, the Wikileaks papers prove that the U.S. government today has been telling the truth about the threats we face in the world.

2. The Wikileaks papers prove that American diplomats are hard at work at the difficult, often frustrating job of protecting and advancing our interests in the world. These documents are testimony to the diligence, intelligence and clear mindedness of our diplomats. Our diplomats are doing their work on the frontline of national security."

These two emails pertains directly to the Petraeus Scandal, which relates to the ongoing FBI investigation, though they are looking into 30,000 emails not publicly released (those released are still of considerable impact):

1: https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12339
From: Sidney Blumenthal
To: Hillary Clinton
Date: 2012-11-12 12:05pm
Subject: H: PETRAEUS. SID

"My operative theory on Petraeus scandal is that it became an October Surprise that failed. Forcing the scandal public and his resignation would have been the trifecta--leaks, Benghazi, then Petraeus-- allowing Romney to argue that Obama had created a national security collapse. It would have overtaken the end of the campaign.
My thought is that Leahy should be in this now and that Feinstein should be made aware, if she is not already, of the October Surprise scenario.

2: https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12340
From: Sidney Blumenthal
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 8:51 AM
To: H
Subject: H: Here it is, what did Eric Cantor know and when did he know it. Sid

"...The F.B.I. investigators were not pursuing evidence of Mr. Petraeus's marital infidelity, which would not be a criminal matter, the official said. But their examination of his e-mails, most or all of them sent from a personal account and not from his C.I.A. account, raised the possibility of security breaches that needed to be addressed directly with him. 'Alarms went off on larger security issues,'' the official said.

(http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/11/usgbi-said-to-have-stumbled-into-news-of-david-petraeus- affair.html?pagewanted=all)

Secretary Hillary Clinton's statements regarding her emails:
1. "I fully complied with every rule I was governed by."
2. "I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email. There is no classified material."
3. "I opted for convenience to use my personal email account, which was allowed by the State Department, because I thought it would be easier to carry just one device for my work and for my personal emails instead of two," she said. "Looking back, it would have been better if I'd simply used a second email account and carried a second phone, but at the time, this didn't seem like an issue."

Secretary Clinton's Statements Links:
1: http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world/ci_27689239/hillary-clinton-emails-fact-checking-her-statement
2: http://edition.cnn.com/2015/03/10/politics/hillary-clinton-email-scandal-press-conference/index.html

[grasswire]

1. EXCELLENT, Thanks!

bookmarking.

I have an article to write and this will be useful.

[pantsonfire]

2. Please do, I want my research to be utilized by anyone interested...n/t

[CentralCoaster]

20. "earned about $10,000 a month as a full-time employee of the Clinton Foundation"

How is this NOT a problem?

[grasswire]

32. interestingly enough...

.....that was not his only income. I'll be posting more about that in the next couple of days.

[pantsonfire]

38. +1 n/t

[Blue Meany]

3. If I am not mistake, it has been established that someone else was sending to

Blumenthal who appears to have been reviewing them for her and sending on those he thought she should read. Who was doing this, I believe, is part of the investigation.

[NWCorona]

9. He's conveniently gone now.

And won't be coming back.

[paulthompson]

16. Nice work, pantsonfire!

And yes, it appears that most of Blumenthal's "intel" came from Tyler Drumheller, who served in the CIA for 25 years, until 2005. In some cases, Blumenthal simply forwarded emails from Drumheller, with Drumheller's name and email address still on them.

But there's a big gap between 2005 and 2011. Where did Drumheller get his info from?! Did he have a friend or two inside the intelligence agencies, giving him classified info? In at least some cases, it's clear the info came from the NSA, not the CIA.

We may never know, since Drumheller died of cancer in August 2015.

[pantsonfire]

21. "Dead", he's probably assumed a new identity....n/t

[southerncrone]

54. Politics seems to breed untimely deaths. (Or are they conveniently timely?)

[Fawke Em]

58. Good money is on Tyler Drumheller.

Who has conveniently passed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyler_Drumheller

[2cannan]

82. Here's another link about Drumheller's role

The Man Behind Hillary Clinton's Private Libya Intelhttp://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tyler-drumheller-man-hillary-clintons-private-libya-intel/story?id=31834468

[yourpaljoey]

4. damn

[pantsonfire]

6. Thanks haha n/t

[Armstead]

5. Sleazy shit

"During mid-September 2011 French President Nicolas Sarkozy and British Prime Minister David Cameron traveled to Tripoli to meet with and express support for the leaders of the new government of Libya under the National Transitional Council (NTC). According to knowledgeable individuals, as part of this effort, the two leaders, in private conversations, also intend to press the leaders of the NTC to reward their early support for the rebellion against Muammar al Qaddafi. Sarkozy and Cameron expect this recognition to be tangible, in the form of favorable contracts for French and British energy companies looking to play a major role in the Libyan oil industry."

[FreakinDJ]

8. Blummenthal was pimping business in Lybia at the time too

Furthermore Pres. Obama specifically BANNED Blumenthal from Hillary's State Dept.

Sidney Blumenthal has served in many roles for Bill and Hillary Clinton, from political Svengali to opposition hit man. So it was probably inevitable that the man who whispered to reporters that Monica Lewinsky threw herself on Bill Clinton

Mr. Blumenthal was on the payroll of the Clinton Foundation at the same time he was being paid by groups helping Mrs. Clinton’s presidential run, at the same time he was advising a U.S. business seeking Libyan contracts, at the same time he was secretly advising Secretary of State Clinton about Libya

They reinforce, for starters, that the Clinton Foundation is not and never has been a charity. Bill and Hillary created it in 2001 as a vehicle to assist their continuing political ambitions, in particular Mrs. Clinton’s run for the White House

The Blumenthal Files are the latest reminder that Mrs. Clinton’s email deletions deserve a criminal investigation. Recall that Mr. Blumenthal was barred by the Obama Administration from working at the State Department

http://www.wsj.com/articles/who-is-sid-blumenthal-1432077350

Clinton lauded Blumenthal's intelligence as 'best info yet'

"Best info yet. Let's discuss before you forward this morning," Clinton wrote as she sent one detailed, four-page report to one of her top aides, State Department Director of Policy Planning Jake Sullivan.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/hillary-clinton-emails-state-department-denies-mess-217461#ixzz468XGCdAX

[NWCorona]

10. He was double and triple triple dipping.

Mills as well.

[FreakinDJ]

13. Question remains - Does the Sec of State have the power to grant security clearances

Without looking I would say NO

[NWCorona]

14. I would agree with you on that.

[FreakinDJ]

15. She passed classified information back and forth with Sid

[paulthompson]

24. No

Clinton's team has tried to spin this story as much as possible. If Blumenthal had a security clearance at the time, I'm sure they would have mentioned it. For instance, they mentioned her lawyer David Kendall had one. The fact they haven't said that means you can be sure he didn't, and that's how the media has reported it.

[FreakinDJ]

26. It appears from the Emails Hillary had a staffer for a go-between

I don't believe that affords her any thing as it would be easy enough to prove Hillary directed it

Hence the reason the FBI has summoned the staffers first

[grasswire]

34. the reason staffers are summoned first, most likely...

...is that is the usual protocol. Interview the low level people first. Then see if the so-called person of interest agrees in the details. That's what some former FBI have said.

[FreakinDJ]

39. Save the Big Fish for last

[paulthompson]

44. Actually...

When it came to Blumenthal, from the emails I've seen, it worked the opposite way. Blumenthal would email Hillary directly. Then, if she thought his email was interesting, she forwarded them to her staffers, especially Jake Sullivan, who was her foreign policy guy.

But in most other cases, info came to her through her staffers. It seems Sullivan wrote most of the really classified emails, so he has extra reason to worry.

[FreakinDJ]

47. There was a "Back and Forth" conversation containing Classified Information with Blumenthal

That is what has launched the whole investigation







Mr. Blumenthal’s June 8 report was derived from NSA reports,

[pdsimdars]

74. And they found many of those most sensitive emails were passed around on many of her

staff's accounts and they didn't have the security clearance.

And people say -- "nothing to see here." Even Obama commented on an ONGOING INVESTIGATION. And they NEVER do that. But he weighed in back in October and the FBI complained and then last week he did it again. He says he hasn't been briefed on what the FBI is finding but apparently he knows enough to know that Hillary didn't do anything bad. WTF?

[winter is coming]

78. Some think that's Obama signaling to the FBI that they'd better not find anything.

I think it's Obama covering his own back: if the FBI recommends charges, Obama can claim the FBI unearthed troubling facts he wasn't aware of.

[CoffeeCat]

48. No, but I think it's interesting

that the Secretary of State is one of a small group of people who can classify information. So obviously, any Secretary of State would have an expansive knowledge of what information should be classified and the classification level that the information should be assigned (Top Secret, Secret, Confidential, Restricted).

[Fawke Em]

60. No.

Security clearance are only granted by is issuing agency after a thorough series of investigations and it involves more than one person. No one person is (or should be) God in granting them.

More: https://www.clearancejobs.com/security_clearance_faq.pdf

[2cannan]

83. So was Huma Abedin. State Dept, Clinton Foundation and

Teneo.

Hillary Clinton signed off on job change for Huma Abedin
Abedin
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/09/24/hillary-clinton-personally-signed-off-on-job-change-for-huma-abedin/?_r=0

[Kalidurga]

7. Business opportunities in Libya and Iraq...

Now she wants to escalate things in Syria no doubt for business opportunities.

[glinda]

19. Statement says it all.

[CoffeeCat]

36. Yes, and she clearly wanted to do that when she was SOS

She was cheerleading for a no-fly zone in Syria and also for arming the Syrian rebels.

This was after the killing/ousting of Gaddafi. Obama greenlighted Libya only after Hillary talked Obama into it.

After Libya, Obama appeared to very pointedly publicize that he would more cautious in his foreign-policy approach (you have to wonder if that was because he trusted Clinton and saw the entire Libyan situation blow up in his face).

Obama made the very public off-the-cuff remark about his foreign-policy going forward would be, "Don't do stupid s---."

Hillary's response to that was to do an interview with the Atlantic and express her disapproval.

"At one point, I mentioned the slogan President Obama recently coined to describe his foreign-policy doctrine: “Don’t do stupid shit” (an expression often rendered as “Don’t do stupid stuff” in less-than-private encounters). This is what Clinton said about Obama’s slogan: “Great nations need organizing principles, and ‘Don’t do stupid stuff’ is not an organizing principle.”
She softened the blow by noting that Obama was “trying to communicate to the American people that he’s not going to do something crazy,” but she repeatedly suggested that the U.S. sometimes appears to be withdrawing from the world stage.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/08/hillary-clinton-failure-to-help-syrian-rebels-led-to-the-rise-of-isis/375832/

Obama has most recently said that his biggest foreign-policy regret is failing to follow up after Gaddafi was killed.

I don't mean to be off in the tall weeds here, but I find the dynamic between Hillary and Obama to be fascinating and more than a little bizarre. I think there is a great deal of PR that has been done to position these two as great friends and supporters of one another. I sense that the exact opposite is true.

"In June 2009, Clinton complained that she had twice shown up for meetings at the White House organized by Jones, the national security adviser, only to be told they had been canceled some time before.

“I arrived for the 10:15 mtg and was told there was no mtg,” Clinton wrote to her aides. “This is the second time this has happened. What’s up???”

Earlier that month, Clinton emailed her aides to say she’d heard “on the radio” there was a Cabinet meeting that day. “Is there? Can I go?” she asked.

The emails also show that aides kept Clinton informed when the White House highlighted Vice President Joe Biden’s role in Iraq policy in a way reporters interpreted to signal that Clinton might have been displaced.

Sullivan told an inquiring State spokesman that Clinton would “be back in Iraq before long.” He sent the exchange to Mills, who immediately passed it to the secretary.

“Read traffic all the way down,” Mills wrote. The bottom of the email chain consisted of White House spokesman Robert Gibbs’ comments that Biden would now “oversee” Iraq policy."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/state-dept-releases-new-tranche-of-hillary-clintons-emails-119624#ixzz469ZCx4P7

[Agony]

45. Thx for posting this...

[think]

11. Thank you for posting /nt

[pantsonfire]

17. Welcome +!! n/t

[NWCorona]

12. This is a very informative post!

And if people think that Obama will let Hillary going behind his back and working with Sid ($10k per month) slide are fooling themselves.

[BillZBubb]

28. What's Obama going to do? Is he going to endorse her opponent? Admit she broke the law?

He could have done either of those things but did not. Obama still, for some reason, wants her to be elected.

[NWCorona]

33. He won't stop the DOJ if it actually does happen.

He already threw some shade her way in that interview.

[CoffeeCat]

49. I'd call this some shade

Executive Order 13526 and 18 U.S.C Sec. 793(f) of the federal code make it unlawful to send or store classified information on personal email.

President Obama issued this executive order on Dec 29, 2009.

[NWCorona]

62. And Hillary was the reason for that order

But I'm sure you know that.

There's a good video of Valerie Jarrett speaking on this.

[Fawke Em]

64. It was illegal before that, but Obama clarified it. eom

[pdsimdars]

75. But he has inserted himself into the conversation.

Usually Presidents say they won't comment on a ongoing investigation, but Obama has done it twice, once in October and once the other week with Mike Wallace. Remember that? And spoke in support of Hillary.

[PufPuf23]

18. Ouch. I have always considered likely that the substance of some emails on the private server

might be more important than the setup.

SOS Clinton was insubordinate to POTUS Obama regards to Blumenthal.

There were at least 562 Blumenthal emails.

[pantsonfire]

23. All there to look at thanks to WikiLeaks....n/t

[CoffeeCat]

91. And those are the emails that she didn't delete!

These are the emails that she deemed safe enough for public consumption.

The FBI has the other 30,000 that she deleted. Ponder on that for a moment.

"Investigators with the FBI have recovered a trove of personal and work-related Hillary Clinton emails that had been thought to have been deleted and lost from a private computer server, one source familiar with the investigation tells NPR's Carrie Johnson.

The recovery might mean that those emails may one day become public.

Bloomberg, which first broke the news, reports that the FBI is in the midst of an investigation looking at how and why classified information moved on Clinton's private server."

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/09/23/442797133/fbi-investigators-recover-clinton-emails-thought-to-have-been-deleted

[grasswire]

35. yes

She ran a rogue foreign policy out of sight of Obama. She transmitted and received classified information from Sid Blumenthal, who was banned from advising her by Obama himself. Blumenthal was getting flawed intel and passing it on to her. And then she convinced Obama to attack Libya over the advice of his other people.

[CoffeeCat]

51. The Blumenthal intel may have been flawed

but it's also probably true that Clinton's Libya song-and-dance--that ultimately convinced Obama--was not the real reason for her wanting the action. Blumenthal was actively furthering American business interests in Libya, and those businesses were, in turn--donating to the Clinton Foundation to obtain a piece of the action.

Tons of rebuilding that needs to happen after a government is toppled and an entire country is reduced to a failed state.

[grasswire]

57. yes, absolutely

That was Blumenthal's particular interest. I'll be sharing some more info about Blumenthal when I get a chance to write it this week.

[truedelphi]

52. SO I guess if she ends up as the Chief Executive of the USA,

We can hope for another Watergate.

The Watergate era shed so much light on so many things, and would have had an even greater effect had the Secret Government not set Jimmy Carer up for a major fall, via the stoppage of oil shipments and the hike in interest rates.

The Church hearings made people realize how bogus the activities of the CIA, that much of what they were doing to "save the republic from our enemies" was really about protecting the neo-colonialist proclivities of the Big Corporations. (That is, pulling democracy away from the peasants of South America and Central America.)

[CoffeeCat]

37. Obama reportedly didn't know that Clinton had a private email server

Obama has said that.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/08/us/obama-says-he-didnt-know-hillary-clinton-was-using-private-email-address.html?_r=0

Can you imagine, finding out that Hillary was using a private email address and an unsecured server, and that she was corresponding with Blumenthal about foreign-policy on a regular basis?

Furthermore, Blumenthal was feeding her very sensitive (possibly classified) information on Libya. Meanwhile, unbeknownst to Obama--Blumenthal was working for the Clinton Foundation and leveraging business interests in Libya. Clinton lobbied heavily for action in Libya and is credited with convincing Obama that action should be taken in Libya and that the US should support those who wanted to take Gaddafi out.

It's possible that Clinton's reasons for wanting Gaddafi out, were the same reasons that Blumenthal did? The basic necon plan is to destabilize through war or regime change--then rebuild/opening business channels--all of which would benefit US corporate interests.

Is it possible that Obama feels duped? And that Clinton's rationale for Libyan regime change had less to do with her concern about Libyan oppression under Gaddafi and more about war-centric business plans that could only happen if Gaddafi was toppled?

[2cannan]

88. Whenever I see this photo, I think, oops, this is the day Obama found out about the server

or Blumenthal or Libya.

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[Samantha]

89. I think this sentiment is right on target

Clinton was running her own rogue Department of State (IMHO).

The other part of the FBI investigation involves public corruption. We have not heard much about that but it is there.

Obama and Hillary are oil and vinegar.

Sam

[pdsimdars]

76. There are at least 22 emails they have identified that were at the TOP level of the Top Secret

classification, that she were on her server and some passed around to her inner circle. The Inspector General had to have briefing and granted higher security clearance because they were too high for him to look at. They say they were critical to national security.

[CoffeeCat]

92. Yes, and Top Secret is a very special classificiation

The furor over Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email account grew more serious for the Democratic presidential front-runner Friday as the State Department designated 22 of the messages from her account “top secret.”
It was the first time State has formally deemed any of Clinton’s emails classified at that level, reserved for information that can cause “exceptionally grave” damage to national security if disclosed.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/22-hillary-clinton-emails-declared-top-secret-218420#ixzz46Z14BClD

[DisgustipatedinCA]

22. Who here has been caught lying to their boss? Did you get a Christmas bonus that year?

Or did you get thrown out onto the street? And if you did lie to your boss, did you also just happen to compromise national security when you did so?

[Peace Patriot]

25. Thank you for this excellent research!

Well done, pantsonfire!

[pantsonfire]

30. It was actually sort of fun putting it together....n/t

[northernsouthern]

27. Now this is one thing that did concerned me when I first heard of it...K&R

But at the time I only saw three of them. Thanks for this list, very good details. This is a troubling as her and Google over throwing Libya just to mess with Iran.

[HooptieWagon]

29. I am guessing that the correspondence with Blumenthall is what will ultimately bring her down.

He was not cleared to handle classified information. Clinton should not have been discussing such matters with him. Further, even if her server is determined to have been secure, his email obviously wasn't, since it was hacked.
Then there is also the matter of the incestuous relationship between State Dept business and Clinton Foundation business. Several of her aides were working both, and there's a strong appearance of quid pro quo.

[pantsonfire]

31. They haven't released his closed-door meeting from the Benghazi hearing. n/t

[pdsimdars]

77. Nah, there's a whole lot more than that.

National security seemed to be too inconvenient for her. It got in the way of her personal business.

[winter is coming]

80. There is a lot more than that, but not reporting that someone without clearance

was sending her classified info should be pretty straightforward to prove.

[pdsimdars]

87. I'd also like to hear her explanation for the 2 emails she sent to her staff member

telling them to remove the classified markers from a message and fax it on the unsecure network. Well, look at it from her side, she wanted it and was inconvenienced by those pesky rules.

That seems like something I would consider as "bad", right? I want to hear that triangulation!

[Uncle Joe]

40. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, pantsonfire.

[pantsonfire]

41. Thanks Joe! n/t

[ViseGrip]

42. To be SOS, she promised Obama, the President she would not take advice or

confer with Sid, over foreign relations. If she could not promise, he would not give her the job. Not much is being said, how she just didn't give a shit what he said, or what she promised him. Awful....

[Fawke Em]

61. Do you have a link for this info?

[pdsimdars]

79. You aren't insinuating that Hillary Clinton LIED? How can that be?

Wouldn't that make you sexist for telling the truth about her because she's a woman?

(I get so confused by this)

[felix_numinous]

43. Nice job

Thank you!

[Agony]

46. double thumbs up!

[Tarc]

50. Camp Sanders is still peddling Emailgate?

[Fawke Em]

63. We never were.

What we're discussing is the violation of 18 US Code 793, which bars officials charged with handling classified or sensitive information from removing it from its proper place of custody through either gross negligence or with fore-knowledge.

Trust me. You'll need to understand this law soon.

[Tarc]

67. Poor l'il poppet

Nothing Clinton did was illegal. At most, unwise judgement, so not even close to the high bar of 793.

Keep carrying the GOP's water though, it is amusing in a pitiable sort of way.

[pantsonfire]

69. You like to hide behind the GOP far too often, it's like you are a Republican....n/t

[Tarc]

71. Says the one carrying their water?

[amborin]

53. excellent research and compilation! thanks for posting this!

[southerncrone]

55. Can't K & R this thread enough! Thanks pantsonfire! Excellent!

[2banon]

56. I would have expected a higher level of intellect from Sid

given that Hillary gave him cart blanche personal intelligence advisory role..


but then I get to this one:

To: Hillary Clinton
Date: 2012-11-12 12:05pm
Subject: H: PETRAEUS. SID

"My operative theory on Petraeus scandal is that it became an October Surprise that failed. Forcing the scandal public and his resignation would have been the trifecta--leaks, Benghazi, then Petraeus-- allowing Romney to argue that Obama had created a national security collapse. It would have overtaken the end of the campaign.
My thought is that Leahy should be in this now and that Feinstein should be made aware, if she is not already, of the October Surprise scenario.

Something rather pedestrian about this one, it seems to me.

And this person is going to be one of her "wide array of advisors" .

Death Squad Kissinger and this guy, and more like them.

[Little_Wing]

59. Thank you pantsonfire!

Your hard work is much appreciated.

[AzDar]

65. K & R

[pantsonfire]

66. +1 :) n/t

[nc4bo]

68. Behind Pres. Obama's back; reward, gets to run for potus.

Sounds like something you'd expect from China or North Korea.

smmfh.

[randome]

72. "Behind his back"? You really think it was a secret?

It was a political decision to prevent her from hiring Blumenthal directly so she found another way to get his advice. Big deal.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
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[riderinthestorm]

70. Great research! Bookmarking

BIG K&R!

[pdsimdars]

73. From what I understand there isn't a "retroactive" classification.

The INFORMATION is classified or not. Even if it is not MARKED as being classified it is STILL classified information. That is right in the contract SHE SIGNED under oath. Most things are not marked.
AND if a message had information that is considered classified SHE is supposed to MARK it classified. And she can't just unclassify something unless she was the one who originally created it.

[KoKo]

81. This is an odd one from Sid:

3. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12171
For: Hillary
From: Sid
July 24, 2012
Subject: Re: Syria, Turkey, Israel, Iran

"SOURCE: Sources with access to the highest levels of the Governments and institutions discussed below. This includes political parties and regional intelligence and security services. 1. According to an individual with access to the highest levels of major European governments, the intelligence services of these countries are reporting to their principals that the commanders of the Israeli military and intelligence community believe that the civil war in Syria is spreading to neighboring countries, including Lebanon, Jordan, and Turkey . These European officials are concerned that the ongoing conflict in Syria will lead to uprisings in these countries that will bring increasingly conservative Islamic regimes into power, replacing existing secular or moderate regimes. This individual adds that, Israeli security officials believe that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is convinced that these developments will leave them vulnerable, with only enemies on their borders."

[ViseGrip]

84. Best, most informative post in the presidential cycle.

You should get an award for putting this together in such a revealing way, that it should be presented.

I keep asking why Obama is not going after her? Sid was not to be consulted. Obama said he's not hiring him. Hillary promised Obama she would not confer with him on state matters. Or she could not have the job. Sid was running the country's foreign affairs! And Hillary paid him 10K a month via the 'foundation'?

She should be in fucking jail for this. Any one of us would be.

Nor under the law, is she allowed to seek public office, ever again!

BRING IN ON OBAMA!

[Matariki]

85. Ah, and here is the heart of the Clinton Foundation

Blumenthal, a longtime confidant of Bill and Hillary Clinton, earned about $10,000 a month as a full-time employee of the Clinton Foundation.

Easy money for the Clinton family and their good friends.

[Octafish]

86. WikiLeaks exposed secret government warmongering and insider warprofiteering.

Guess Big Sid missed this one:

Wikileaks Release Suggests Stratfor Inside Info Plan with Goldman Sachs Exec

By Ryan Villarreal: Subscribe to Ryan's RSS feed
IBTimes.com
February 27, 2012 6:26 PM EST

WikiLeaks released more than 5 million e-mails Monday hacked from U.S.-based global intelligence firm Strategy Forecasting Inc. (Stratfor), revealing an alleged plan between the firm's CEO and a Goldman Sachs executive to set up an investment fund that would rely on inside information gathered by the company.

A September 2011 company-wide e-mail composed by Stratfor CEO George Friedman indicates that Goldman Sachs financial adviser and former Managing Director Shea Morenz was directly involved in the establishment of the investment fund StratCap.

"Shea Morenz provided us with two opportunities," wrote Friedman.

"First, he made an investment in Stratfor designed to give us the capital needed to build our staff and our marketing. Second, he proposed a new venture, StratCap, which would allow us to utilize the intelligence we were gathering about the world in a new but related venue -- an investment fund. Where we had previously advised other hedge funds. We would now have our own, itself fully funded by Shea."

CONTINUED...

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/305532/20120227/wikileaks-stratfor-stratcap-goldman-sachs-fund-julian.htm

When money trumps peace, what chance does democracy have?

[ViseGrip]

90. Kick!

[nc4bo]

93. The information in this post still blows my mind. Gotta keep reminding myself THIS is a

Presidential candidate.

Who does this?