If you don't think having your registration mysteriously switched,

[onecaliberal]

Changing poll places 24 hours before the election, prohibiting early voting, opening the polls at noon to keep people from voting are problems, then you're not a democrat and you definitely don't believe in democracy.
American men and women died in Iraq protecting their right to vote, and we have idiots here trying to keep folks from voting. This is not DEMOCRACY. Who cares what party you're in, it doesn't matter, you should be able to go to the poll and vote for the candidate of your choice, that is freedom. Anything else is the rigged bullshit the wealthy are fighting us to keep.

[vintx]

1. I remember back during 2000 and 2004, those things used to matter to Dems.

My what a difference a huge influx of concentrated corporate cash and turd-way voters brings.

[onecaliberal]

4. I seriously can't believe I'm seeing dems support the same republican tactics

Used by bushco and republicans. It's as though I'm living in an alternate universe.

[vintx]

8. And dems using the same responses republicans use

to defend the indefensible.

The prison industrial complex used to be a big deal, now it's just a meme.

Torture used to be abhorrent, now if she supported it and only changed just before an election, that's a good quality in a leader.

Exploiting labor used to be anathema, now we're bad people for not supporting the TPP.

The environment used to be important. Now dems cheer on 'clean coal' and defend fracking.

[onecaliberal]

9. These people are not democrats. Look at the national platform.

hell, they can just borrow the republican platform. Hillary policy lines up well with them.

[Punkingal]

20. And this very site was created because Bush stole the election from Gore in 2000.

Alternate universe is right. I don't care if it is a Cruz voter (and I loathe him) anyone who wants to vote should be allowed to vote.

[CorporatistNation]

32. One Party... "$THE MONEY PARTY$!

Think AFC vs NFC! This is the Corporatist Nation... Read that... The Tactics are that of a FASCIST Nation... No Democracy HERE!

Lots of STUPID people in NYC basically!

[Thinkingabout]

2. I had my voting location changed, I did not allow tbis to keep me from voting.

[highprincipleswork]

3. "Bully for you", as Teddy would say. But the lack of compassion, empathy, and ability to fight for

justice for others does not bode well for the Democratic Party, in my opinion.

[Thinkingabout]

6. I believe in justice, what are you implying. I have heard this more than once

In the last few days. Maybe the lack of concern is something else.

[highprincipleswork]

13. I am sure you do. And we should all be concerned, in my opinion, with voting irregularities. Next

time they could happen in an election where we as Democrats want to win against a Republican. Wherever they happen and whenever they happen, I believe we should all be concerned and do all we can to remedy the situation. After all, we are the people who want the votes counted, and I'm sure you are with me on that.

Sorry if my words were overly harsh. I'm only saying we should all be concerned about any signs of disenfranchisement. And, in fact, we might even be concerned about people being ill-informed. But at least not disenfranchised.

Thanks for your comments.

[Thinkingabout]

29. This was a primary, this was not a general election, choices of party was made, this is

A far cry from voter irregularities or voter suppression. Caucuses did not allow lots of seniors and disabled from participating. Where was the talk of voter suppression?

[highprincipleswork]

42. If you don't think having your registration mysteriously switched...

This was the intro to the post.

Yes, this was a primary. But to have irregularities significant enough to catch the attention of the NYC Mayor and also to inspire an audit of the New York City Election Board by the Comptroller sounds significant to me, and concerning for now and for the GE.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/20/nyregion/new-york-voters-face-problems-at-the-polls.html?_r=0

The original poster goes on to note "changing poll places 24 hours before the election and opening the polls at noon to keep people from voting" as problems.

Perhaps these don't concern you. They concern me. I don't see why the United States can't run elections that everyone agrees are uniform and fair.

[Thinkingabout]

43. As I stated previously I have also had my voting precinct changed, went to the place I was to vote a

and given the information of where to go, I don't call that a voting irregularity. I read through the article and it did not mention why names was removed, an important part of the information needed, ergo, without the important information it is not possible to determine if there are more irregularities which truly exist. Voting precincts are not perfect and in most places a provisional ballot is provided, if that provisional ballot is verified then the ballot is counted, again the person is not refused the opportunity to vote but there are restrictions to voting.

I do get concerned when the accusations run against those in charge of the voting procedure such as may have occurred in NY where it is a closed primary and those who are registered other than Democrats was upset because they were not able to vote.

I also see in caucuses where seniors and disabled are unable to participate in the caucuses and were therefore excluded.

[nadinbrzezinski]

45. Next time?

It has been happening. A minor thing with caging in 2000 cost Dems the presidency. 2004 was not better. People chose to think we are ahem exceptional



Alas that is like. As long as my politician wins I am ok with this...which is the prevailing attitude.

Myself, none of our elections are legitimate or transparent at this point. I "vote," but it really does not matter...

[highprincipleswork]

46. It is a disgusting mess. We would never advocate for this process in another "democracy".

[nadinbrzezinski]

47. Of course not

But Americans are too propagandized to realize that as corrupt as elections are even south of the border, they are actually cleaner not by much mind you.

[dinkytron]

16. Damn straight.

[Ghost Dog]

18. Did you risk losing your job

by spending (how much time?) on finding your polling-place and voting?

[Thinkingabout]

44. No, I did not risk my job, it happened I was off on primary day. I sought the information before

the primary day but it did make a difference when the two parties voted in different places. I went to the place where the listing said I would vote, was not there, poll workers made a phone call and verified where I was to vote. I still followed through and voted.

[Ghost Dog]

53. Then, you'd appreciate that others might have had to abandon

the task due to shortage of time, surely.

[Thinkingabout]

55. I do realize the time constraints. I did not run around complaining about this, running elections

is not easy.

[notadmblnd]

5. They don't care about Democracy. They care about their damn Party.

You know the one. The party the moderate conservatives hijacked from real Democrats.

[Thinkingabout]

7. Yes, we the people have voted 2.7 m more votes for Hillary, we care about democracy,

It is about getting the most delegates, that would be democracy.

[notadmblnd]

10. I wasn't disputing what democracy is

I said, HRC supporters don't give a shit about Democracy. They only care about the party they hijacked from real Democrats.

[flor-de-jasmim]

11. Democracy is not the 2.7 who voted, but about the hundreds of

Thousands who have been effectively STOPPED from voting...literacy tests, different rules or poll opening times for different peole, confusing ballots, too few polling places, manipulated machine tallies, etc. You should care about it ALL.

[Thinkingabout]

23. This was a primary election, it was not a general election, there is a difference.

I am surprised the campaign did not get this information to the supporters. Just like the seniors and disable was unable to participate in caucuses, there is not any difference. Thousands did not get to not get to show their choice. BTW, it is 2.7 more votes for Hillary than has been for Sanders, we the people has spoke .

[Adrahil]

28. Yeah,don't go into the details..

They aren't listening. Most of them don't care about details anyway and are perfectly content with "yada yada yada" policies.

Besides, they going through the stages of grief at the moment.

[Thinkingabout]

31. Yes, I know, hopefully some will come away with new information.

[msongs]

12. you can vote for the candidate of your choice in the general election -IF YOU ARE smart enuff

to do

[Voice for Peace]

14. ...

[nolawarlock]

15. I would think it were terribly wrong ...

... If it were actually true but I think some of these activists will say and do anything to get Bernie elected.

I care about voter disenfranchisement. I don't care about false accusations of it made out of desperation.

[Waiting For Everyman]

17. Those who have to cheat to win are losers.

Real winners don't have to cheat. I think it's pretty obvious something very shady went on in New York, and in a bunch of other states.

Stealing votes is as low as pond scum.

[Thinkingabout]

24. Just as caucuses "cheats" the senior and disabled.

[PBass]

19. Interesting thread, in the context that Bernie was on TV last week saying

that even if he is behind Hillary in pledged delegates and trailing in the popular vote at the time of the convention, he will pull aside superdelegates to try to persuade them to switch their vote from Hillary to Bernie. This is the essence of the "back room deal".

I wonder how the OP feels about Bernie's plan to flip superdelegates to the runner up?

Apologies for linking to Andrea Mitchell, but I couldn't quickly locate the clip where Bernie also explains his plan to Rachel Maddow.

[pnwmom]

22. He's also said he's willing to try to flip pledged delegates, on the theory that the most important

votes are those in the last weeks of the primary season.

[djean111]

37. But it was okay for Hillary to buy up super-delegates before a single vote was cast.

Oh, please. IMO, harping on getting super-delegates is ridiculous. And hypocritical.

[stillwaiting]

40. The superdelegates endorsement of HRC so early in the process has been used to get

much more support for HRC than she would have received from voters otherwise.

They made it so that the media could claim she was inevitable from the very beginning. You don't understand human psychology if you don't get how that garnered support from regular voters for HRC throughout this entire primary process.

[Zira]

54. Hillary and Bill have been meeting super delegates for months. There's NOTHING wrong

with Bernie trying to get them to vote their conscience and not for the 1 percent.

[pnwmom]

21. Not all those problems are of the same level of problem. And you could make similar

complaints about caucuses -- and yet most people here didn't seem to have any problem with them, as long as they resulted in a win for Bernie.

Caucuses don't allow early voting. They allow only very limited absentee voting (my out of state college student didn't qualify). They are only open for a few hours and require you to stay for those hours.

Should I say that if you like caucuses then you aren't a Democrat and don't believe in Democracy? As much as i dislike caucuses, I've never said that.

[Thinkingabout]

26. Exactly, caucuses left out the seniors and disabled. It was a primary election, republicans

Or other party selections was not able to vote in this election.

[Agschmid]

25. Hmmm...

This part isn't true...

American men and women died in Iraq protecting their right to vote

But that's not on you.

[Thinkingabout]

27. Very true.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

30. All those things are A-OK as long as they benefit Hillary

And here I thought this kind of rampant hypocrisy was limited to republicans.

[brooklynite]

33. A million Democrats figured out how to vote for Hillary Clinton yesterday...

...but the cool kids, who grew up with the Internet, couldn't?

[smiley]

34. Democracy left us a long time ago.

The system has been corrupt for far too long. And the media is silent to the madness.

[WhiteTara]

52. Voters have been complacent and don't vote.

voter turnout is less than 40% and I think that is stretching it.

[Hoyt]

35. You think it's bad automated, you should have voted back when it was all on paper. Talk about

screw ups. Plus, you couldn't check status on-line, vote early, absentee was limited, etc. Not saying this doesn't need to be corrected, but things happen with tens of millions of transactions. And, I suspect a whole lot of the problems were caused by the voter or their memories. In any event, I don't think it changed the election results, or was aimed at any candidate.

[Skwmom]

36. Think back to the 2000 election and all the fraud. Who would have thought.......

[onecaliberal]

38. It's unbelievable. The disturbing thing is that supposed dems are doing it and supporting it.

[Skwmom]

39. It is. n/t

[stillwaiting]

41. Yes. The Establishment. It makes it clear why Dems did not change things when they had power. nt

[redwitch]

48. My 30 something friend couldn't vote yesterday.

She changed her reg. to her married name last year and had no idea that by doing so her party affiliation was dropped. She has always been a Democrat.

[onecaliberal]

50. Why in hell would her affiliation be dropped because she changed her name. Complete ridiculousness.

[redwitch]

51. I know!

She was very upset.

[lagomorph777]

49. K&R