Patton Oswalt Wants You To Know ‘You’re A F**king Child’ If You Don’t Vote Because You Hate Hillary

[baldguy]

Oswalt has been a supporter of Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders, but made it clear in the interview that he’s not “Bernie or bust.”

“I will vote for whoever the Democrats nominate against either of those two psychopaths,” he said. “I think they’re both equally dangerous and backward-facing for this country.”

Asked what he would say to a Bernie supporter who would rather not vote than cast a ballot for Hillary Clinton in the November general election, Oswalt replied, “Well, then you’re a fucking child.”

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[Lucinda]

1. :)

[SidDithers]

2. Patton Oswalt is brilliant...

I'd highly recommend following him on Twitter, if you don't already.



Sid

[sabrina 1]

36. No, he's not, but hey, he did choose Bernie so there is that. He's free to do what he wants, so is

everyone else. Looks like he thinks he has some kind of influence on voters. If it makes him happy, let him think so, he did get one major thing right, Bernie rather than Hillary so I'll give him a pass.

[SidDithers]

69. ...

Oh, sabrina.



Sid

[obamanut2012]

71. Agreed -- love his twitter feed

A great liberal, and smart and funny as hell.

[Bleacher Creature]

3. Simple and spot on.

I couldn't agree more.

[PowerToThePeople]

4. Bernie or Bust!

Patton Oswalt can go fuck the hell off.

[ciaobaby]

5. +1 and that says it all !

[PFunk1]

16. Same here. No more letting terror, fear and which is the lesser evils decide my vote

Time to vote for the better REAL democratic candidate and not a DINO (even a well disguised and well funded one).

[840high]

54. Amen.

[SciFiRK]

87. Ditto

[2pooped2pop]

62. ditto

Gots to give us someone we share values with to vote for. That's not Hillary.

[Joob]

66. +1 (and almost every other young voter)

[Carolina]

74. Agree

Can't be liberal and vote for $hillary, the MIC loving corporatist, who helped found the DLC, supported hubby's: NAFTA, Telecommunications Act, Welfare Deform and Crime bills, and Glass-Steagall reversal.

Can't be liberal and vote for a disastrous warmonger, regime changer and weapons dealer who used her position at State to peddle arms and fracking while enriching that slush fund known as the Clinton Foundation. In the general, BTW, the repukes will go after that like Whitewater on steroids.

We, the people... the real liberal, progressive people don't give a fuck what Oswalt says. No more falling in line behind not so lesser of two evils

[LanternWaste]

101. No doubt, M.r Oswalt will allow your sentiment as the consideration it is in fact, worth.

No doubt, M.r Oswalt will allow your sentiment as the consideration it is in fact, worth.

[nolawarlock]

6. Always thought he was great!

Stella Doro Breakfast Treats. Definitely worth a YouTube.

[angstlessk]

9. And here is Hillary

‘I believe marriage is not just a bond but a sacred bond between a man and a woman.”

“…the fundamental bedrock principle that [marriage] exists between a man and a woman, going back into the midst of history as one of the founding, foundational institutions of history and humanity and civilization, and that its primary, principal role during those millennia has been the raising and socializing of children for the society into which they are to become adults.”

[nolawarlock]

11. Most politicians said that at one point or another ...

including Obama.

It's not where you start, it's where you finish. I like that she was willing to evolve on things. I want a president who can adjust to changes in society and on the global stage.

[angstlessk]

12. NEVER DID BERNIE

Of course he is not MOST politicians

[nolawarlock]

14. This article from Time Magazine says otherwise ...

This Time article would seem to suggest that, while he was certainly ahead of his time on this issue, he, too, evolved in how he communicated it.

http://time.com/4089946/bernie-sanders-gay-marriage/

I personally think most of these politicians, including Hillary and Obama, were for gay marriage long before they actually admitted to being for it, but they were playing to the will of the voters at the time.

And either way, it's hardly my one issue. I believe Bernie's policies will hurt small businesses in his zeal to attack corporations, which, of course, would only result in more corporations and fewer small businesses. I think Hillary cares about the middle class, which includes small business owners like me.

[angstlessk]

19. PROOF he was for gays before it was cool! From YOUR article

By all measures, Sanders was ahead of his time in supporting gay rights. In 1983, as mayor of Burlington, he signed a Gay Pride Day proclamation calling it a civil rights issue. He was one of just 67 members in the House of Representatives to vote against the Defense of Marriage Act, a politically tough decision he prides himself on and points to as a key progressive bona fide. Sanders opposed Don’t Ask Don’t Tell in 1993, another President Bill Clinton-era policy, and supported civil unions in Vermont in 2000.

[baldguy]

21. Someone didn't read the article.

In 2006, when the Bush White House proposed an amendment to the Constitution defining marriage as between a man and a woman, Sanders spoke out against the Republican plan, saying it was “designed to divide the American people.”

But when Sanders was asked by a reporter whether Vermont should legalize same-sex marriage, he said no. “Not right now, not after what we went through,” he said.

[angstlessk]

38. Then there is this!

but a Sanders’ campaign spokesman, Michael Briggs, stressed that he has a “long and consistent record on gay rights.” He pointed to a YouTube video showing Sanders taking a fellow member of Congress to task over Don’t Ask Don’t Tell in 1995.

“You said something about ‘homos’ in the military,” Sanders said. “Was the gentleman referring to the many thousands and thousands of gay people who have put their lives on the line in countless wars defending this country? Is that the group of the people the gentleman was referring to? You used the word homos. You have insulted thousands of men and women who have put their lives on the line. I think you owe them an apology.”

[nolawarlock]

44. He's also far more pro-gun ...

... and I actually agree with him on that. But that's neither here nor there. I won't vote for anyone on the Right because they're still against my marriage and host of other issues, but Hillary represents the greatest balance of what I care about. I am all about improving the lot of the working class and the poor but I don't believe we should be hurting the job creators who actually make our lives interesting in order to do it and small businesses are what give our downtowns and our daily lives the type of experience that goes beyond the stale boxes of corporations. Bernie Sanders will steamroll right over us to get to his corporations, they will weather that storm, most of us won't, and you'll be left with just more corporations. Now, he probably won't get much of that past Congress but I'm not taking a chance. If he's the nominee, I'll vote for him because I support far more of his policies than anyone on the right, but I still don't like him. I don't like how one-note he is. And I don't like that he's just not ready for primetime. That Vatican fiasco was an embarrassment.

[angstlessk]

46. JOB CREATORS....what a big fricking joke!

You believe in 'trickle down'?

"job creators who actually make our lives interesting" as in the Chinese CURSE...may you live in interesting times?

[nolawarlock]

48. You're missing the point.

I was very clearly talking about small businesses as job creators. And many of us have interesting business models you don't see at the big corporate level. If you steamroll over us to get to the corporations, then you won't have many of us left and many have already fallen. How many small pharmacies are still out there? My grandfather was a pharmacist with his own pharmacy. You just don't see much of that anymore. But, maybe you really did know what I was talking about and that just proves why I can't support your candidate. I am not, as a small business owner, willingly going to become your sacrificial lamb. Sorry. No dice.

[angstlessk]

49. Small business is exempt of almost everything big business is required

Almost every federal requirement for business does not effect small business, unless you do business with the government.

I have been there and done that

[nolawarlock]

50. That is just not true.

Take the minimum wage. It's not something I like to spend much time on because it's such a lose/lose topic of discussion, but if we just instantly do that, most small businesses would be devastated. Work up to it, yes. That's fine, but there's got to be tax incentives for small businesses to go along with that. Just think of all the unique items that many of us get from small businesses, at least where a lot of them are left. I have visited some areas of America where all they have are strip malls and national chains. It was truly disheartening to me because I can't imagine my life without the various places I shop and dine and I hope that this kind of unique quality of life is considered.

One Sanders supporter made the comment, "if small businesses can't pay a living wage, they shouldn't be in business." It's just not that simple. We don't create inflation. It hurts us just as bad as it does anyone. Our shipping costs alone have gone up astronomically, including anything we ship through the post office, which just a few short weeks ago saw a gigantic increase. That money has to come from somewhere. There are years that small business owners I know didn't make a living wage. Iv'e been lucky but not so lucky that a few shifts in policy couldn't knock me out of the game. So yes, when I hear "incremental change" and changes that come from a comprehensive strategy rather than simply pulling one lever, I'm all ears.

I don't do business with the government but what I do is unique and is in no way served by any corporate chain store in any strip mall anywhere and there are countless businesses like mine that would suffer if economic shifts were made without a conscientious strategy and I feel like Hillary is far more on the ball in that arena than Bernie is.

Frankly, nearly all the people in my industry pay under the table, so what really sucks is that people like me who don't are going to have it much harder. I'll sacrifice that prosperity to put in a person who will support my marriage like Bernie, but I will not go out of my way for him. I am not interested in being anyone's sacrificial lamb, especially if I'm not even the real target. If Bernie can't find ways to gun for big corporations without hurting small businesses, I'm not interested in him.

[angstlessk]

52. Move to Viet Nam, I hear they have cheap labor there n/t

[nolawarlock]

53. That's exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about.

Most of these Bernie supporters don't care about how much much small businesses struggle. I make less from each of the three individual shops I own than any of the people who work in them. It's a struggle sometimes. And your answer is to send labor overseas? I'm not disagreeing with the increase. I'm disagreeing with him not having a sensible plan for how to implement it.

God, it's comments like yours that make me want to sit November out if he's the nom. I won't, but checking off a box next to his name will be one of the most repugnant things I will have ever done in my life.

Your attitude is just so wrong. Small businesses are not corporations and they are not fat cats and they don't generally have it easy.

[angstlessk]

55. You prefer Hillary and the TPP trade agreement

I doubt that you will even have a company if that agreement is passed

[nolawarlock]

57. My understanding was that she came against it.

But that's not the case. TPP won't affect me. I have shops in tourism cities. Many people will go out of their way to get things that are locally made.

At this point, you're just rambling out talking points. You haven't spoken to a single thing that small businesses actually go through so if you're trying to evangelize your candidate, you're hardly going about it in the right way.

My state already voted, so I guess it doesn't matter, but still.

[angstlessk]

60. She is against it during the prelimaries....

but she will be for it if she happens to become president...

Hillary is to the right of Nixon and Bush Sr..

[griffi94]

59. $15.00 an hour federal minimum wage

is a sounds good one size fits all solution that wouldn't work.

In places like LA and NYC chicago and Boston it's still close or under the poverty level.

In a the middle of a rural state it'll bankrupt every business there.

Why not a living wage law tagged to the local cost of living.

Bernies position on this is because he's from a small not very populas state where one size fits all solutions
are more feasible.

[nolawarlock]

61. You're probably right about this.

I am also one of the few business owner in the entire world within my particular vertical of retail who has management staff that makes above a living wage and gets health insurance, paid vacations, and all sorts of perks in a retail category that is mostly operated by owners who, even without a staff or creating no jobs, make barely two nickels to rub together. I pay well above minimum here in Louisiana. In fact, I'm probably one of the highest paying small retail stores in the French Quarter. But $15 with no adjustment period or tax relief for small businesses would hurt us badly because we don't really have much room to pad the way a corporation does. It's just not right. There has to be a way that adjusts the economy without making small businesses the sacrificial lamb. My husband was a retail manager for a corporate mall store in Spokane, Washington for 13 years. When they went to $15, it killed the local economy and it barely cost the corporation a nickel. They just cut all these people back to part time, reduced hours and required more work. We can't do that the way corporations can because we're already a tight ship like any small business. But, in the end, we would probably have to have the management staff less on administrative time and hire fewer people. There has to be some way to adjust economic levers that don't kill small businesses and I want a president willing to give that serious thought.

[LisaM]

80. Interesting.

I hope they do a study on the impact the big jump had in Washington. Downtown Seattle is almost all chains; it's depressing. About a year ago it seemed as if a 7-11 suddenly opened on every block.

[nolawarlock]

94. I call it the department of unintended consequences.

Such as:

Lawsuit for bible study in classrooms after school => gay straight alliances

North Carolina law to keep trans women out of ladies rooms => hairy chested trans men in ladies rooms

I fear that the following is also true

$15 minimum wage with no adjustments for small businesses => more corporations

And of course, more corporations isn't just sucky because we don't want corporations running our lives. It's sucky because corporations do not provide the unique type of experiences that small businesses provide. I know it will suck when the only pizza I can order is Domino's.

Other economic factors also affect this. Skyrocketing rents in major cities make it so only the top brands can afford to be there, since they have the capital to weather the difficulty of such rents. And, even if they don't do well, they're essentially a giant billboard promoting the brand in places where they actually do turn a profit. It's why I do not have a shop in London, since that was next on my list.

[pangaia]

27. Evolve hohoho

[nolawarlock]

45. Do you think exactly the same on every issue as you did 40 years ago?

I say 40 years ago, since most of the most virulent Bernie or Bust people have "been a lifelong Democrat for over 40 years". It never seems to be 20 years, or 17 years, or 50 years or 5 years. It's always 40. No clue as to why but I am guessing Hillary hasn't totally locked up the older vote. Either that, or Hillary isn't the only one paying people to post.

[pangaia]

90. Your sig line is the filthiest I have ever seen here.

Such a disgusting display of ignorance is what I have come to expect from your fellow oligarchy supporters.

But, I imagine it makes you feel good. And THAT is the real shame.

[nolawarlock]

95. Um. Click the link.

It's not about feeling good. It's about the outrage we should all be having about someone who wrote that. Since it's not something people are talking about, I figured having a clickable banner in my signature will be a constant reminder of this egregious example of rape culture that you're turning a blind eye to.

[2pooped2pop]

63. yeah, she evolves

Like daily.

[winter is coming]

7. Who? n/t

[bvf]

8. I've always tried to live my life

in accordance with how my actions would be judged by Patton Oswalt, and I've got 11 years on him--which should tell you just how strong his influence is.

[The Second Stone]

10. Oswalt is sugar coating it

by using "fucking".

[jeepers]

13. A sure sign of brilliance

is to start off by insulting the person you want to persuade. How does that work in the world of business?

[basselope]

15. What if you don't vote for her because you think she is the worst possible choice?

[baldguy]

18. Worse than Trump or Cruz?

“I will vote for whoever the Democrats nominate against either of those two psychopaths,” he said.

[basselope]

20. Yes, worse.

His opinion of their psychopathy is noted and likely true; however, that doesn't mean she isn't more dangerous.

He said you are child if you don't vote for her because you HATE HER.

I pose the question, what if you think she is more dangerous to have in office?

[JoePhilly]

24. Hillary is more dangerous than Trump or Cruz?

That's fucking delusional.

[basselope]

31. Not at all.

[baldguy]

37. "Bernie Bros for the psychopath!"

Doesn't really roll off the tongue, but it is accurate it seems.

[Stuckinthebush]

40. You can't make this sh$t up

They've lost their minds. I swear we are in the rabbit hole. On this thread we have people saying Hillary is worse than Trump or Cruz. Worse! Let that sink in.

On another we have one spouting nonsense math screaming about how the MSM is feeding us lies about the delegates.

I'm speechless. It is pure unhinged wackiness around here.

GDP is a freak show these days.

[JoePhilly]

41. No kidding.

[Starry Messenger]

64. Word.

[Zynx]

33. Well, then such a person is just an idiot and worthy of contempt.

Not saying that's you necessarily, but that is how I would feel about such a person employing that rationale.

[basselope]

51. Then it is what you feel about me.

[obamanut2012]

73. You are saying Hillary is a worse choice than Trump or Cruz?

At best, CDS is strong in you.

[basselope]

93. Yes, very much so.

Because she will sell us out, as she has done so many times in the past. The GOP will actually MORE of what they want from Hillary.

Trump and Cruz can easily be gridlocked and filibustered.

[Adrahil]

25. Then I'd say moron is more appropriate than child. NT

[basselope]

30. And yet you would be wrong.

[SidDithers]

85. +1...

Sid

[840high]

56. You'll go to

hell with me.

[restorefreedom]

17. bless his heart. nt

[Dem2]

22. I like this fellow

[sadoldgirl]

23. A kind of revolution is coming, if not now

then in 2 years.His assumption about Trump or Cruz
are wrong in my opinion.
Neither one, I think, will be their nominee, because the
republican Party will put their own person in, willy nilly.

They want a) Clinton as opponent, because that will
unite them, and b) someone like Ryan or Kasich to beat
her, because they sound "more reasonable".

BTW, I don't care, who that guy is, but he certainly
does not understand the mood of the voters.

[Kelvin Mace]

26. I respectfully disagree

I love Patton Oswalt, but on this issue we part company.

[pangaia]

28. I have never knowingly voted for a lying corporate shill

[whatchamacallit]

32. Haha little turd says what?

[amborin]

34. no one should be asked to vote for someone who so violates one's core moral principles

[oberliner]

68. Think about the Supreme Court

Sometimes one has to be strategic in order to prevent something worse from happening.

[pengu]

77. Strategic is keeping the Clinton's hands off the party leadership

The last Clinton administration killed off liberal principles for 25 years. We can't afford it again. I'd rather lose and try again in 4 years if it keeps the third way from consolidating their power within the party. That is the real disaster - no party opposing money and power.

[oberliner]

83. I understand that sentiment

I just think that the alternative would be much worse. Imagine a Supreme Court with three more hard-core conservative justices. Imagine a president who thinks climate change is a hoax, who wants to build a giant wall with Mexico, who wants to ban Muslims from entering the country, and so forth. It seems like a Trump or Cruz presidency would have an even more damaging effect on especially the most vulnerable people in this country.

[Carolina]

78. I'm actually

tired of that argument. As long as gov't (pols), healthcare and education are controlled by corporations, then the USSC will be of, by and for the corporation no matter which corporate candidate (DINO or repuke) is in the White House.

Repukes won't overturn Roe v Wade, it's such a good campaign issue and they've had prior opportunities to do so. Gay rights/marriage ...again, good campaign issue.

[oberliner]

82. I understand

But if there are three more hard-core conservatives added to the court, it just will have such an impact for so many years to come that I think it's worth at least considering.

Also, it seems that there at least would be a better chance to get the sorts of issues Bernie has been fighting for into the conversation with HRC in the White House as opposed to Trump or Cruz.

[TSIAS]

35. There neeeds to be a better argument for Hillary

I understand what Oswalt is trying to do, but it's not enough. Even Bernie can't say much more than Hillary is better than Cruz or Trump. That's not a high compliment.

[oasis]

39. Yup and DU is Nursery Central. (eom)

[TM99]

42. Before the rise of culturally acceptable

pathological narcissism, adults communicated on an eye-to-eye level. I express my opinion and argument. You express yours. We may vehemently disagree but you are an adult and are therefore entitled to your own beliefs, actions, and thoughts. And so am I.

Now we have moved to this dysfunctional parental style of communication which is not eye-to-eye, mature, or healthy. If someone disagrees with mr, then I must flip into a parental role and try to shame them as a child. This can be done subtly or overtly as this asshole is doing.

No Patton Oswalt, you are not my parent. You are just another adult with an opinion. I may or may not agree with you. And just like I respect that you will act, think, and believe what you consider is right for you, you better fucking respect that I will do the same. I am not a 'fucking child' because I don't act the way you say I should.

[betsuni]

43. K&R

[AgingAmerican]

47. This is childish nonsense

Playground level insults, insinuations, threats and neener! neener! neener! as a way to support a Democratic candidate for president?

The McDonaldization of the Democratic party.

[Bobbie Jo]

58. DU Rec

Well said, Mr. Oswalt.

[Starry Messenger]

65. K&R

[Meteor Man]

67. O?

Paton Oswalt?

This is a joke right?

[obamanut2012]

70. He is such an underrated actor

Love him on SHIELD as the Koenings.

[DrDan]

72. spot on

[LexVegas]

75. He's right. nt

[hobbit709]

76. Who?

[Bluenorthwest]

79. It's still the Primary, Pat. Oswalt is a very, very rich and privileged straight white guy, spoiled

and utterly catered to in life. He needs to stop kicking back down the ladder. He's not cute enough to carry off the smug with any sort of grace.

[closeupready]

81. Don't care what Patton Oswalt thinks.

[cherokeeprogressive]

84. Ooooh!

[Nye Bevan]

86. Yep. A petulant child, indeed.

Who is sufficiently privileged that they can afford to risk President Trump or Cruz by indulging in their little hissyfit. Ralph Nader voters 2.0, indeed.

[dr60omg]

88. Why should I care what Patton Oswald thinks of me? I don't know him. But, a statement like that

makes me realize he is probably a jerk. He has always been a Clinton supporter. I disagree with him.

[pdsimdars]

89. And wouldn't that make him a f*cking authoritarain control freak if he things he can boss

people into doing what he thinks by his name calling?

Kind of like that Clinton aide who called on Bernie to tone it down, as he cussed him out.

What is wrong with these people?

[NobodyHere]

91. Can't wait for him to appear on MST3k

I voted for Bernie and I agree with his sentiments.

[Orsino]

92. Cool story, bro...

...but how relevant? If there are really many voters who are only in it for one candidate or the other, how many are going to have their minds changed even by the brilliance of Oswalt? The problem he imagines may have been mentioned on the Internet, but that doesn't make it very real, or guarantee that it will still be a thing come November.

I'll say that if one is not fighting voter suppression, a real practice that I promise is far more significant, one may indeed be a fucking child.

[frylock]

96. Big fan of Patton, just like I am of Frank Conniff..

but, sorry guys. Not gonna do it.

[frylock]

97. Damn. Just read that Patton's wife died the other night.

46 years old. Damn.

[Miles Archer]

98. Yeah, well...he's right. I don't care for her at all, but Trump or Cruz?

My hope is that she'll either prove her critics wrong or be a one-term President. There's just too much at stake.

[insta8er]

99. Tell Patton Oswalt, as soon as he starts paying my household expenses I will do what he asks me to.

Until then he should please mind his own business.

[VulgarPoet]

100. Who the fuck is Patton Oswalt?

I mean other than just some celeb whose admonishment resembles something I'd hose off the bottom of my boot?

[Scurrilous]

102. K & R