Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,825 posts)
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:51 AM Apr 2016

There are five primaries next Tuesday. How many will Senator Bernie Sanders win?


33 votes, 0 passes | Time left: Unlimited
Zero
13 (39%)
One
10 (30%)
Two
0 (0%)
Three
2 (6%)
Four
0 (0%)
Five
8 (24%)
Show usernames
Disclaimer: This is an Internet poll
63 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
There are five primaries next Tuesday. How many will Senator Bernie Sanders win? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 OP
Where is the button for zero wins? n/t SFnomad Apr 2016 #1
Hate to say it, but I think he may be shut out. morningfog Apr 2016 #2
There isn't much polling for Delaware and Rhode Island DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #6
Delaware will likely go as PA goes. And MD. auntpurl Apr 2016 #24
Fucking Zero. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #3
Enough to send some people here into a fit of apoplexia. hobbit709 Apr 2016 #4
Would I be an arrant pedant if I pointed out the word is apoplectic? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #7
Maybe RI firebrand80 Apr 2016 #5
All of them. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #8
RI may be close, but the rest should be in the 55-45 range Tarc Apr 2016 #9
the answer is as it always was restorefreedom Apr 2016 #56
New York gives her a good bounce so its a sweep. DCBob Apr 2016 #10
Let's see: Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #11
But there will still be a path! Stuckinthebush Apr 2016 #12
Even the flying unicorns aren't buying it Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #15
That's perfect! Stuckinthebush Apr 2016 #16
That not amused unicorn made me LOL. Beacool Apr 2016 #51
The DE Poll is from Gravis. I have cited them but their record is far from stellar. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #14
Agreed. MD and PA look solid, CT is pretty good. RI and DE are tossups with DE leaning HRC. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #18
Microsoft Bing has her at 65% in DE DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #21
Wow. So you think Gravis is underestimating her lead in DE? Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #23
Delaware skews more affluent and African American. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #27
I'm gambling on RI Blue_Adept Apr 2016 #13
All of them :) Marrah_G Apr 2016 #17
Your enthusiasm is laudable. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #22
I'll be generous and say 2, but they will be close and won't be enough to make up his deficit Arkansas Granny Apr 2016 #19
probably depends on the level of "shenanigans" 2pooped2pop Apr 2016 #20
I say One because one of them is open, I believe. He does better in those. IamMab Apr 2016 #25
Which one is open? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #30
I see Rhode Island listed as "semi-closed," but I don't know what specifically is different there. IamMab Apr 2016 #31
Indiana is an open primary state and early voting has been going on for weeks. B Calm Apr 2016 #50
Thank you. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #53
Bernie wins RI. Hillary wins the rest. yardwork Apr 2016 #26
It depends on how well the Debbie Dino Fix works. -none Apr 2016 #28
The plural of anecdote is not data. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #29
Or as I like to say, "Anecdotal evidence isn't evidence at all." nt IamMab Apr 2016 #32
Not to be picayune but technically it is evidence DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #34
Well, I think fleeing NY before the polls closed was one way of showing the internal polling. IamMab Apr 2016 #35
Did you miss the part about the people "I" know? -none Apr 2016 #43
If the campaigns were manipulated let the VT independent release ... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #44
How about we start with this: -none Apr 2016 #46
Let him release the internal polling he spent millions on to prove the actual votes are wrong. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #48
What of this then? -none Apr 2016 #55
There are discrepancies in any election. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #58
What does your constant single source reliance on the Vermont independent have to do with anything -none Apr 2016 #60
Random allegations of fraud from disgruntled supporters... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #61
Reality is not your friend. Beacool Apr 2016 #54
Reality is my friend, so I reject your premise. -none Apr 2016 #57
She'll win most of the next states, that's what will happen. Beacool Apr 2016 #62
We'll see. -none Apr 2016 #63
All of them. And he will simultaneously retroactively win the ones he lost, too. Arkana Apr 2016 #33
Hillary's biggest problem is not Bernie Sanders WhenTheLeveeBreaks Apr 2016 #36
My day doesn't begin until someone invokes the Indictment Fairy. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #37
It's as predictable as the sunrise. MoonRiver Apr 2016 #40
Well at least that poster did so obliquely. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #41
Yep, there's that. MoonRiver Apr 2016 #42
Maybe he snags Rhode Island.... Adrahil Apr 2016 #38
Gotta love the folks voting 5. Nothing like blind optimism. NT Adrahil Apr 2016 #39
If there're shenanigans like the reduced polling places in RI or purged voters like NY for instance. nc4bo Apr 2016 #45
If it were today SheenaR Apr 2016 #47
Probably one or two. Beacool Apr 2016 #49
There appears to be at least six Bernie Bros ... salinsky Apr 2016 #52
I'm betting somewhere between zero and five. zappaman Apr 2016 #59

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
24. Delaware will likely go as PA goes. And MD.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:19 AM
Apr 2016

Since Hillary is up in both those states, DE should be the same. It's similar demographics.

I voted "one" in the poll because I don't know jack about RI.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,825 posts)
7. Would I be an arrant pedant if I pointed out the word is apoplectic?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:58 AM
Apr 2016

I believe there was an edit there. The edit was the grammatical tense of apoplexia.


Other posters can click and see it.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
8. All of them.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:58 AM
Apr 2016

The ones he doesn't are simply because he couldn't overcome the level of cheating we are witnessing.

Tarc

(10,491 posts)
9. RI may be close, but the rest should be in the 55-45 range
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:03 AM
Apr 2016

The only question here is, will Sanders resign after a sweep?

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
11. Let's see:
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:08 AM
Apr 2016

Polling data for these closed primaries:

CT: Clinton +6
PA: Clinton +18
MD: Clinton +25
DE: Clinton +7
RI: no data

I'll give him RI. If the projected leads in PA and MD are even half correct, Clinton extends her lead to 270 pledged delegates with another 360 delegates taken off the table. If the polls are correct, The lead becomes 300.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
23. Wow. So you think Gravis is underestimating her lead in DE?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:19 AM
Apr 2016

I tend to assume the worst to avoid being disappointed. I'm one of those people.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,825 posts)
27. Delaware skews more affluent and African American.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:23 AM
Apr 2016

Those are two good demographics for Secretary Clinton.

Blue_Adept

(6,419 posts)
13. I'm gambling on RI
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:12 AM
Apr 2016

Partially because there's so much unknown with non-existant polling plus the open primary aspect if I recall.

While the hardcore Sanders supporters are going to do the right thing and phone bank and work hard to get out there, I know based on past experience that the momentum is on the Clinton side. Perception is 9/10th's of the game in politics and while she's had to fight to win this nomination, the fact that she's continually in the lead here and coming out big in states people notice (really, nobody notices Wyoming for a range of reasons and caucus states even less), and she has the perception of having momentum and winning.

That alone will draw undecideds more than any issue, policy, or indictment wet dream some may have. A lot of undecideds just want to pick the winning side.

 

IamMab

(1,359 posts)
25. I say One because one of them is open, I believe. He does better in those.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:21 AM
Apr 2016

But personally, I hope it's zero, because I want to be able to say "Hillary Clinton has won 6 of the last 6 contests, so she has the MOMENTUM!!1111" like Sanders' supporters have been doing for 2 weeks now.

-none

(1,884 posts)
28. It depends on how well the Debbie Dino Fix works.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:36 AM
Apr 2016

I only know of one person who favors Hillary. The rest like Bernie by a large margin and a couple are for Kasich. Nobody I know admits to liking Trump.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,825 posts)
29. The plural of anecdote is not data.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:41 AM
Apr 2016

If you truly believe only one person who "favors Hillary" there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion.

Oh, Bernie has internal polling. He has spent massively on it despite earlier suggesting pollsters are superfluous. Let him realease them to show the actual voting was manipulated.

That should solve it, am I right?

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,825 posts)
34. Not to be picayune but technically it is evidence
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:53 AM
Apr 2016

Evidence of an anecdote.


My point about the internal polling is a good one. If Bernie thought he was being jobbed he would release his internal polls to prove it.

 

IamMab

(1,359 posts)
35. Well, I think fleeing NY before the polls closed was one way of showing the internal polling.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:58 AM
Apr 2016

Just not a very good, or mature, way.

-none

(1,884 posts)
43. Did you miss the part about the people "I" know?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:23 AM
Apr 2016

Of course you did.
It is well known Arizona and New York primaries were manipulated for sure, plus several other states. That is why the law suits about it. There will be more law suits concerning Democratic primaries, as the evidence builds in other states. Count on it. Debbie DINO is running Hillary's campaign like the Republican she is. Facts and issues over personalities.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,825 posts)
44. If the campaigns were manipulated let the VT independent release ...
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:25 AM
Apr 2016

If the results were manipulated let the VT independent release the internal polls to prove they were he paid millions for after suggesting polling is superfluous.


-none

(1,884 posts)
46. How about we start with this:
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:45 AM
Apr 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141424044
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511809128

It is not the campaigns that are being manipulated, it is the primary elections themselves. Between the disenfranchisement and the vote flipping that always seems to favor Hillary, Hillary may have more to worry about than her SoS security 'lapses'
There are a lot more threads on this subject around here, if only you cared enough to look.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,825 posts)
48. Let him release the internal polling he spent millions on to prove the actual votes are wrong.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:04 PM
Apr 2016
There are a lot more threads on this subject around here, if only you cared enough to look.



If I actually looked to fellow member of this board for impartial information I would consequently have to look to a psychiatrist for mental health counseling.


The bottom line is the voters aren't nearly as into the Vermont independent as his acolytes are. His support is a mile deep and an inch wide.

Let him release the internal polling he spent millions on to prove the actual votes are wrong.

-none

(1,884 posts)
55. What of this then?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:20 PM
Apr 2016

Illinois Ballot Integrity: Manipulation of Hand-Count "Audit" of Ballots to Fit Official Results.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511809259

There are links to other sources in those threads. That verbiage in the grey boxes are excerpts from those other sources.
Do you think those are a actors in a play in the video at the link here? The evidence keeps mounting for widespread, wholesale election fraud.

I am partial to facts and truth. How about you?

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,825 posts)
58. There are discrepancies in any election.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:25 PM
Apr 2016

Until there is credible evidence from a reliable source that there has been a pattern and practice of vote tampering I will remain unconvinced.


After saying he didn't need or rely on pollsters the Vermont independent hired a fancy schmancy pollster. He doesn't seem to have helped him since he is losing badly but by releasing his polls he can demonstrate whether or not the votes have been tampered with.


Occam's Razor- The Vermont independent's support is a mile deep and an inch wide.

-none

(1,884 posts)
60. What does your constant single source reliance on the Vermont independent have to do with anything
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:32 PM
Apr 2016

I have posted? Is it supposed to be some kind of deflection from the facts of election fraud?
The sources reporting Democratic election irregularities are wide spread. It is not just one or a few sources. That alone should give it enough credence to start paying attention to it.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,825 posts)
61. Random allegations of fraud from disgruntled supporters...
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:35 PM
Apr 2016

Random allegations of fraud from disgruntled supporters of the soon to be vanquished Vermont independent does not constitute evidence. Well, maybe in a parallel universe they do.

Occam's Razor- Voters are just not "feeling the Bern", or at least not in large enough numbers to prevent him from being vanquished.

Beacool

(30,262 posts)
54. Reality is not your friend.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:15 PM
Apr 2016

When are some of you going to get through your heads that more Democrats are voting for Hillary than are voting for Sanders? At this point, the race is not even remotely close. Hillary will have triple the pledged delegate advantage than Obama had in 2008. It has nothing to do with Debbie or any other DNC big shot. People are voting with their feet and more have chosen Hillary.

-none

(1,884 posts)
57. Reality is my friend, so I reject your premise.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:24 PM
Apr 2016

It is appearing that more and more, the only reason Hillary is "winning", is from election fraud.
Now that the election fraud is out in the open, let's see what happens in the remaining states.

Beacool

(30,262 posts)
62. She'll win most of the next states, that's what will happen.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 03:52 PM
Apr 2016

She will win PA, MD and CT, maybe DE too. RI may be the one state that Sanders wins. She will also win NJ and I think CA too.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
33. All of them. And he will simultaneously retroactively win the ones he lost, too.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:53 AM
Apr 2016

Last edited Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:31 AM - Edit history (1)

Jesus Christ, the hypocrisy here is staggering. Obama supporters were asked to treat diehard Clinton supporters like gentle, fragile snowflakes for the months of April, May, and June as it became more and more apparent she was going to lose, but Hillary supporters are pouring in like they're storming the beaches at Normandy and telling Bernie Sanders supporters to shut up and get in line.

 
36. Hillary's biggest problem is not Bernie Sanders
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:07 AM
Apr 2016

It's James Comey

Bernie's biggest problem is not Hillary Clinton

It's Biden, Warren and perhaps Kerry.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
45. If there're shenanigans like the reduced polling places in RI or purged voters like NY for instance.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:31 AM
Apr 2016

Who knows? I certainly do not.

Can't trust the election process why trust the election result?

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
47. If it were today
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:56 AM
Apr 2016

he would probably win zero, and I have made my support well known.

Definitely depends on the GOTV operation this weekend and into next week. The 5 million calls placed (not all connected) in the final days of NY shows the extent of the effort, but the result was clearly was in the other direction.

Now we have 5 to spread the effort around. I have canvassed here in RI. There's some funny business here but it's not fraud. We are just broke and they are cutting costs at the cost of democracy. The real funny business is that they have delayed the release of polling until after Sec. Clinton's visit (because Gov. Raimondo who is angling for a national position is projected to have an approval rating in the low 20s). But I digress

RI is in play for sure, but a lot of unaffiliated voters are turning to Trump. Nobody will believe me, but RI will be tougher than ususal in November.

MD and DE to me are done deals for the Secretary. CT is close and PA will need a turnaround fast for Sanders to win.

Just my $.02 on the ground and on the phones.

Beacool

(30,262 posts)
49. Probably one or two.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:06 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary will handily win PA & MD and do well in CT, but by a smaller margin. I'm not sure about DE and RI since there has been no recent polling in these states.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»There are five primaries ...